I am picking up a conversation that has been developing in a thread on
another topic because I think it is signifacant and should get its own
thread.

Jawade of Kolibrie Software has been saying that his boot manager can
effectively prevent XP volsnap.sys from erasing Vista's shadowcopies in a
multiboot scenario. He has been trying a few things to verify this and
hopefully he will join this thread and supply some info about it. His
website is in Dutch at: http://jawade.fortunecity.com/. So far he has
verified that restore points and previous versions survive a reboot into XP
and a reboot back into Vista.

During the Vista beta program several testers tried some well-known boot
managers that were supposed to be able to hide a volume and either they did
not function correctly with Vista or they did not hide a Vista volume at a
low enough level to prevent XP from damaging Vista files. This looks
better.

Also see: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
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I am picking up a conversation that has been developing in a thread on
another topic because I think it is signifacant and should get its own
thread.

Jawade of Kolibrie Software has been saying that his boot manager can
effectively prevent XP volsnap.sys from erasing Vista's shadowcopies in a
multiboot scenario. He has been trying a few things to verify this and
hopefully he will join this thread and supply some info about it. His
website is in Dutch at: http://jawade.fortunecity.com/. So far he has
verified that restore points and previous versions survive a reboot into
XP and a reboot back into Vista.

During the Vista beta program several testers tried some well-known boot
managers that were supposed to be able to hide a volume and either they
did not function correctly with Vista or they did not hide a Vista volume
at a low enough level to prevent XP from damaging Vista files. This looks
better.

Colin, can you verify something here . . .

I asked this previously re whether or not I need the FULL version
(versus upgrade version) of Vista Ultimate to be able to run a dual boot
with a previous version of Windows, and I'm pretty sure the answer was
that I would need (the pricier) FULL version. From the microsoft/vista
site:

"When you install the new version of Windows, you can keep an older
version of Windows on your computer. This is often called a -multiboot-
or -dual-boot- configuration."

Is this statement suggesting you can use an upgrade version? It
doesn't really say this, so what do you know?


--
Noel

No. An upgrade edition product key will permit installation to a different
partition than the legacy Windows already on the machine. Simply choose a
different volume as the target during the initial steps. You are still
tying the legacy Windows license, though. And yes, it is a loophole since
you are not supposed to be able to use the legacy Windows following such an
upgrade due to licensing restrictions. However, MS did not block it in
software. The disk tools will not be available since you will have started
Setup from the legacy desktop so be sure to do any disk preparation before
you run Vista Setup.

"Noel" wrote in message
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Colin, can you verify something here . . .

I asked this previously re whether or not I need the FULL version
(versus upgrade version) of Vista Ultimate to be able to run a dual boot
with a previous version of Windows, and I'm pretty sure the answer was
that I would need (the pricier) FULL version. From the microsoft/vista
site:

"When you install the new version of Windows, you can keep an older
version of Windows on your computer. This is often called a -multiboot-
or -dual-boot- configuration."

Is this statement suggesting you can use an upgrade version? It
doesn't really say this, so what do you know?


--
Noel

In article , Colin Barnhorst
says...
I am picking up a conversation that has been developing in a thread on
another topic because I think it is signifacant and should get its own
thread.

Jawade of Kolibrie Software has been saying that his boot manager can
effectively prevent XP volsnap.sys from erasing Vista's shadowcopies in a
multiboot scenario. He has been trying a few things to verify this and
hopefully he will join this thread and supply some info about it. His
website is in Dutch at: http://jawade.fortunecity.com/. So far he has
verified that restore points and previous versions survive a reboot into XP
and a reboot back into Vista.

During the Vista beta program several testers tried some well-known boot
managers that were supposed to be able to hide a volume and either they did
not function correctly with Vista or they did not hide a Vista volume at a
low enough level to prevent XP from damaging Vista files. This looks
better.

The bootmanager works very basic, I think he let you start in XP
with Vista hide at that way its really invisible. If there is
enough interest, I will made an English version. I have already
a quick 'n dirty translation from the manual (my English is not
perfect :-)).

--
Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Weer veel vernieuwd!
http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista), ClrMBR, DiskEditors, POP3lezer, Filebrowser,
Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, Linux-Diskeditor, USB-stick tester

Your English is one helluva lot better than my Dutch! You do very well. We
will be glad to help you with the English terms and phrasing once you have a
draft.

"Jawade" wrote in message
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In article , Colin Barnhorst

says...
I am picking up a conversation that has been developing in a thread on
another topic because I think it is signifacant and should get its own
thread.

Jawade of Kolibrie Software has been saying that his boot manager can
effectively prevent XP volsnap.sys from erasing Vista's shadowcopies in a
multiboot scenario. He has been trying a few things to verify this and
hopefully he will join this thread and supply some info about it. His
website is in Dutch at: http://jawade.fortunecity.com/. So far he has
verified that restore points and previous versions survive a reboot into
XP
and a reboot back into Vista.

During the Vista beta program several testers tried some well-known boot
managers that were supposed to be able to hide a volume and either they
did
not function correctly with Vista or they did not hide a Vista volume at
a
low enough level to prevent XP from damaging Vista files. This looks
better.

The bootmanager works very basic, I think he let you start in XP
with Vista hide at that way its really invisible. If there is
enough interest, I will made an English version. I have already
a quick 'n dirty translation from the manual (my English is not
perfect :-)).

--
Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Weer veel vernieuwd!
http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista), ClrMBR, DiskEditors, POP3lezer, Filebrowser,
Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, Linux-Diskeditor, USB-stick tester

In article , Colin Barnhorst
says...
Your English is one helluva lot better than my Dutch! You do very well. We
will be glad to help you with the English terms and phrasing once you have a
draft.

Thank you.

There is one important thing: In the root of te XP-partition, the
XP bootfiles have to be there. They are ntldr, NTDETECT.COM and
boot.ini. The boot.ini have to have one entry, itself.

--
Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Weer veel vernieuwd!
http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista), ClrMBR, DiskEditors, POP3lezer, Filebrowser,
Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, Linux-Diskeditor, USB-stick tester

Be sure to work that into the draft.

"Jawade" wrote in message
...
In article , Colin
Barnhorst
says...
Your English is one helluva lot better than my Dutch! You do very well.
We
will be glad to help you with the English terms and phrasing once you
have a
draft.

Thank you.

There is one important thing: In the root of te XP-partition, the
XP bootfiles have to be there. They are ntldr, NTDETECT.COM and
boot.ini. The boot.ini have to have one entry, itself.

--
Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Weer veel vernieuwd!
http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista), ClrMBR, DiskEditors, POP3lezer, Filebrowser,
Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, Linux-Diskeditor, USB-stick tester