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Steve January 26th 08 02:01 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver? Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)

Colin Barnhorst[_2_] January 26th 08 03:13 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)



Curious January 26th 08 05:13 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software to
MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay involved.
There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally signed from being
installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)




Colin Barnhorst[_2_] January 26th 08 05:27 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
Vista x64 drivers must be signed.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software to
MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay involved.
There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally signed from
being installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)





Carlos January 26th 08 07:06 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
Hi,
You may get to install it but you will surely not get to run it.
That is for sure.
Carlos

"Curious" wrote:

The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software to
MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay involved.
There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally signed from being
installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)




Curious January 26th 08 08:28 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
If you do an F8 boot in Vista 64 one of the options is to load unsigned
drivers.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Vista x64 drivers must be signed.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software
to MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay
involved. There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally
signed from being installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and
I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but
it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)





Colin Barnhorst[_2_] January 26th 08 09:11 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
That is not a persistent measure. On release to rtm the persistence of F8
was disabled. F8 is required on every boot. Also, MS has responded in
recent months to the workarounds to permit persistence that have shown up
with both kernel updates and Windows Defender updates to disable the
persistent loading of unsigned drivers.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you do an F8 boot in Vista 64 one of the options is to load unsigned
drivers.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Vista x64 drivers must be signed.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software
to MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay
involved. There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally
signed from being installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options and
I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but
it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)






DevilsPGD January 26th 08 11:28 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
In message "Colin
Barnhorst" wrote:

That is not a persistent measure. On release to rtm the persistence of F8
was disabled. F8 is required on every boot. Also, MS has responded in
recent months to the workarounds to permit persistence that have shown up
with both kernel updates and Windows Defender updates to disable the
persistent loading of unsigned drivers.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a way to self-sign the drivers?

Curious January 26th 08 11:49 PM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
AFAIK the ability to install a unsigned driver only worked for the single
boot as you say. But are you also saying that any unsigned drivers during a
single F8 boot will not work after you later do a normal boot?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
That is not a persistent measure. On release to rtm the persistence of F8
was disabled. F8 is required on every boot. Also, MS has responded in
recent months to the workarounds to permit persistence that have shown up
with both kernel updates and Windows Defender updates to disable the
persistent loading of unsigned drivers.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you do an F8 boot in Vista 64 one of the options is to load unsigned
drivers.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Vista x64 drivers must be signed.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their software
to MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time delay
involved. There is nothing to prevent software that is not digitally
signed from being installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is
not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them to
test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options
and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal but
it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)







Colin Barnhorst[_2_] January 27th 08 12:38 AM

Vista 64bit driver signing.
 
Correct. It does not survive a restart.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the ability to install a unsigned driver only worked for the single
boot as you say. But are you also saying that any unsigned drivers during
a single F8 boot will not work after you later do a normal boot?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
That is not a persistent measure. On release to rtm the persistence of
F8 was disabled. F8 is required on every boot. Also, MS has responded
in recent months to the workarounds to permit persistence that have shown
up with both kernel updates and Windows Defender updates to disable the
persistent loading of unsigned drivers.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you do an F8 boot in Vista 64 one of the options is to load unsigned
drivers.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Vista x64 drivers must be signed.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
The vendors normally do not want to send all versions of their
software to MS to get them digitally signed due to the cost and time
delay involved. There is nothing to prevent software that is not
digitally signed from being installed and working.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906254.aspx

"Steve" wrote in message
...
If I have a driver for a device that functions properly, but it is
not
digitally signed, is there any way to submit to Microsoft for them
to test
and sign said driver? or do something to make vista use the driver?
Right
now I have Vista start up and display the advanced startup options
and I
select disable driver signature enforcement. This is no big deal
but it
would be nice if I could avoid this step.

Thanks
--
Steve
(x64man)









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