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Folders - read-only



 
 
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  #11 (permalink)  
Old January 31st 08, 02:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance,microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Dave R.
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Posts: 205
Default Folders - read-only

The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this
wouldn't happen.

Regards,

Dave

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the
only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When
migrated to another installation, the permissions on that folder must
be altered by the user to match the user account on the target
installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@trnddc06...

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...'

Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated
with the
creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT
before it.
Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by
the
owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an
inherent
part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was
pretty
much non-existent.


OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized
I have *never*
used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply
transfer files
and settings by copying.

So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this
'issue' is non-existant?





Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@trnddc08...

"Max" wrote in message
...
It's likely a 'permissions' thing.
Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do
not
'belong'
to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous
ownership and
therefore are limited in what can be done with them.
Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine.
Here is an easy way:
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/

Nice tip, thanks...

More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time.



--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Michelle" wrote in message
...
I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows
XP
(IE7).
I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista.

Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It
says
they
are read-only.

When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green
square
(mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and
accept
the
prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders.

But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I
look at
their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed
content.
And I still can't organise or add to them.

What can I do to make them useable again?

thanks...

M









  #12 (permalink)  
Old January 31st 08, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance,microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Rick Rogers
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Posts: 8,428
Default Folders - read-only

Hi,

True, I had missed the point of copying to CD as a step. Once removed from a
secure file system, the descriptors would be lost.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Dave R." dwragle (at) drbsystems (dot) com wrote in message
reenews.net...
The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this
wouldn't happen.

Regards,

Dave

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the
only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When migrated
to another installation, the permissions on that folder must be altered
by the user to match the user account on the target installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@trnddc06...

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...'

Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated with
the
creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT before
it.
Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by
the
owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an
inherent
part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was
pretty
much non-existent.

OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized I
have *never*
used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply
transfer files
and settings by copying.

So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this 'issue'
is non-existant?





Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@trnddc08...

"Max" wrote in message
...
It's likely a 'permissions' thing.
Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do not
'belong'
to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous
ownership and
therefore are limited in what can be done with them.
Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine.
Here is an easy way:
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/

Nice tip, thanks...

More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time.



--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Michelle" wrote in message
...
I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows XP
(IE7).
I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista.

Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It
says
they
are read-only.

When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green
square
(mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and
accept
the
prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders.

But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I
look at
their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed
content.
And I still can't organise or add to them.

What can I do to make them useable again?

thanks...

M










  #13 (permalink)  
Old February 1st 08, 06:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance,microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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Posts: 331
Default Folders - read-only

I was beginning to get really confused, since I'd never encountered this
issue when transferring (not using wizards or 'migrating') files before.

Thanks for bantering it about.

DM



"Rick Rogers" wrote in message ...
Hi,

True, I had missed the point of copying to CD as a step. Once removed from a
secure file system, the descriptors would be lost.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Dave R." dwragle (at) drbsystems (dot) com wrote in message
reenews.net...
The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this
wouldn't happen.

Regards,

Dave

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the
only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When migrated
to another installation, the permissions on that folder must be altered
by the user to match the user account on the target installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@trnddc06...

"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...'

Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated with
the
creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT before
it.
Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by
the
owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an
inherent
part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was
pretty
much non-existent.

OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized I
have *never*
used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply
transfer files
and settings by copying.

So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this 'issue'
is non-existant?





Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm wrote in message
news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@trnddc08...

"Max" wrote in message
...
It's likely a 'permissions' thing.
Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do not
'belong'
to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous
ownership and
therefore are limited in what can be done with them.
Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine.
Here is an easy way:
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/

Nice tip, thanks...

More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time.



--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Michelle" wrote in message
...
I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows XP
(IE7).
I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista.

Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It
says
they
are read-only.

When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green
square
(mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and
accept
the
prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders.

But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I
look at
their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed
content.
And I still can't organise or add to them.

What can I do to make them useable again?

thanks...

M












  #14 (permalink)  
Old February 4th 08, 10:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
btvarner[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Folders - read-only


Max;589605 Wrote:
It's likely a 'permissions' thing.
Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do not
'belong'
to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous ownership
and
therefore are limited in what can be done with them.
Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine.
Here is an easy way:
'Add Take Ownership Option To Files and Folders Context Menu in Vista »
My Digital Life'
(http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/)

--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Michelle" mh_londonSPAMSTOP@xxxxxx wrote in message
news:ukcgnikYIHA.3400@xxxxxx
I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows XP

(IE7).
I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista.

Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It says

they
are read-only.

When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green

square
(mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and accept

the
prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders.

But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I look

at
their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed

content.
And I still can't organise or add to them.

What can I do to make them useable again?

thanks...

M

Max,
I have this same problem. I downloaded the zip file to install the
take onwership command on right click. It installed and took ownership
of the folder and contents but the read only remains. I am sitll unable
to have other PC's in my workgoup to be able to Add, change, or delete
anything in this folder?

thanks,
Bruce


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btvarner
 




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