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How to remove orphan Start menu item



 
 
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Old February 1st 08, 03:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Les[_3_]
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Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and Features.
This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the C:\Program Files
folder, but I was left with the application with sub folders on the Start
Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this anymore, I tried right clicking
on it and selected Delete - this resulted in a dialog 'You need to confirm
this operation - Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I selected Continue - the dialog
box disappears but nothing else happens - the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the application
still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the folder
'\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried Delete
there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same dialog
which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something from
(say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the Permissions
procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time remaining etc but at
the end, no actual deletions take place - strange! (btw I am not doing
anything unorthodox in as much as I was only changing an installed
application .dll updated file) - *however*, I found the Take Ownership did
work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and relying
on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

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Old February 1st 08, 09:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Bob
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Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

Try this: Boot into safe mode and go through the same process.

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this anymore,
I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this resulted in a
dialog 'You need to confirm this operation - Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I
selected Continue - the dialog box disappears but nothing else happens -
the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the folder
'\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried Delete
there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same dialog
which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something from
(say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only changing
an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I found the Take
Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


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Old February 1st 08, 09:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
PC Medic
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Default How to remove orphan Start menu item


"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this anymore,
I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this resulted in a
dialog 'You need to confirm this operation - Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I
selected Continue - the dialog box disappears but nothing else happens -
the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the folder
'\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried Delete
there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same dialog
which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something from
(say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only changing
an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I found the Take
Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


Have you tried
Right clicking the item
select Properties
Select the Security Tab.
Highlight the user you are logged in as.
Click the 'Edit' button
Place a check in the box for the Allow Full Control
Click Apply
Click OK

Now go back to the start menu and delete the item



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Old February 2nd 08, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Les[_3_]
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Posts: 27
Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

"PC Medic" wrote in message
...

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this anymore,
I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this resulted in a
dialog 'You need to confirm this operation - Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I
selected Continue - the dialog box disappears but nothing else happens -
the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the
folder '\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried
Delete there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same
dialog which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something from
(say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only changing
an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I found the Take
Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


Have you tried
Right clicking the item
select Properties
Select the Security Tab.
Highlight the user you are logged in as.
Click the 'Edit' button
Place a check in the box for the Allow Full Control
Click Apply
Click OK

Now go back to the start menu and delete the item




Thanks for the reply

Well, I followed your suggestion, but when I get to the dialog that has the
check boxes, they are all grayed out - same for all users (Administrator, Me
and System) - the default from new when I created the Me account.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

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Old February 2nd 08, 03:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Les[_3_]
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Posts: 27
Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

Thanks for the reply

I could possibly do this, but as the only user and admin of my own computer
I feel it is somewhat inconvenient and shouldn't be necessary. Of course, if
I can't find another more convenient method I will of course swallow my
indignation and do as you suggest

"Bob" wrote in message
. ..
Try this: Boot into safe mode and go through the same process.

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this anymore,
I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this resulted in a
dialog 'You need to confirm this operation - Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I
selected Continue - the dialog box disappears but nothing else happens -
the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the
folder '\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried
Delete there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same
dialog which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something from
(say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only changing
an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I found the Take
Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland





--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

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Old February 2nd 08, 03:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Bob
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Posts: 1,706
Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

You're welcome.
Unfortunately your feelings having nothing to do with it.

"Les" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply

I could possibly do this, but as the only user and admin of my own
computer I feel it is somewhat inconvenient and shouldn't be necessary. Of
course, if I can't find another more convenient method I will of course
swallow my indignation and do as you suggest

"Bob" wrote in message
. ..
Try this: Boot into safe mode and go through the same process.

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this
anymore, I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this
resulted in a dialog 'You need to confirm this operation -
Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I selected Continue - the dialog box disappears
but nothing else happens - the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the
folder '\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried
Delete there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same
dialog which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something
from (say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only
changing an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I
found the Take Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland





--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


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Old February 2nd 08, 08:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
SG[_3_]
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Posts: 664
Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

Hi Les,

See if this will work for you...
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vi...te-folder.html

Look down at #7
Posts: 72
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Amsterdam
Experience: Advanced

--
All the best,
SG

"Les" wrote in message
...
"PC Medic" wrote in message
...

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this
anymore, I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this
resulted in a dialog 'You need to confirm this operation -
Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I selected Continue - the dialog box disappears
but nothing else happens - the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the
folder '\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried
Delete there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same
dialog which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something
from (say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only
changing an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I
found the Take Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


Have you tried
Right clicking the item
select Properties
Select the Security Tab.
Highlight the user you are logged in as.
Click the 'Edit' button
Place a check in the box for the Allow Full Control
Click Apply
Click OK

Now go back to the start menu and delete the item




Thanks for the reply

Well, I followed your suggestion, but when I get to the dialog that has
the check boxes, they are all grayed out - same for all users
(Administrator, Me and System) - the default from new when I created the
Me account.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


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Old February 2nd 08, 09:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Les[_3_]
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Posts: 27
Default How to remove orphan Start menu item

Thanks SG, good info. Will give it a try. I also saw from that link, an
indication of what else I had noticed but didn't mention - that items on the
start menu don't appear in the start menu programme folder - I suppose
that's a separate thing though.

"SG" wrote in message
...
Hi Les,

See if this will work for you...
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vi...te-folder.html

Look down at #7
Posts: 72
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Amsterdam
Experience: Advanced

--
All the best,
SG

"Les" wrote in message
...
"PC Medic" wrote in message
...

"Les" wrote in message
...
Hi

Vista Ultimate - fully up to date.

I uninstalled a program through the Control Panel - Programs and
Features. This seemed to remove all signs of the application from the
C:\Program Files folder, but I was left with the application with sub
folders on the Start Menu/All Programs. Since I didn't need this
anymore, I tried right clicking on it and selected Delete - this
resulted in a dialog 'You need to confirm this operation -
Continue/Skip/Cancel' - I selected Continue - the dialog box disappears
but nothing else happens - the menu entries remained.

Looking through various Vista newsgroups, I found a 'Take Ownership'
registry thing - I installed this.

Retrying the above and after 'Taking Ownership' of the start menu entry
(entries), has exactly the same results - the references to the
application still remain.

Next I tried search for the application name and this led me to the
folder '\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and I tried
Delete there both without then with the Take Ownership - still the same
dialog which when clicking Continue results in no action.

On a related note: I have had times where I want to delete something
from (say) the Program Files folder where I needed to go through the
Permissions procedure and then get a dialog showing progress/time
remaining etc but at the end, no actual deletions take place - strange!
(btw I am not doing anything unorthodox in as much as I was only
changing an installed application .dll updated file) - *however*, I
found the Take Ownership did work in this instance.

I'm now at a dead end in getting this start menu entry removed, and
relying on the collective wisdom of this group to help me out.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

Have you tried
Right clicking the item
select Properties
Select the Security Tab.
Highlight the user you are logged in as.
Click the 'Edit' button
Place a check in the box for the Allow Full Control
Click Apply
Click OK

Now go back to the start menu and delete the item




Thanks for the reply

Well, I followed your suggestion, but when I get to the dialog that has
the check boxes, they are all grayed out - same for all users
(Administrator, Me and System) - the default from new when I created the
Me account.

--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland





--
regards,
Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

 




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