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I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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a bit more info, accessing from the ip address of 192.168.0.x\w seems to
allow me access to read, but not edit, delete or create. this seems to me to be simply a access problem, but I am confused why ip would work and fqdn wouldnt. is there some weird new security setting that does not allow you to log on and access over the network? if this is the case, why on earth does vista use the normal c$ and d$ shares. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it.
Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check you sharing network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work from there. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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FQDN will not work because your not resolving the host name. More than likely
a issue of not belonging to the network you are connecting to... I would bet your Vista system is still set to the workgroup named workgroup. "Wilhil" wrote: a bit more info, accessing from the ip address of 192.168.0.x\w seems to allow me access to read, but not edit, delete or create. this seems to me to be simply a access problem, but I am confused why ip would work and fqdn wouldnt. is there some weird new security setting that does not allow you to log on and access over the network? if this is the case, why on earth does vista use the normal c$ and d$ shares. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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Hi
Thank you very much, but sine i made the original post I have already checked this and can access the default share and any new shares made, however I still have the problem that I can not access the administrative shares C$ and D$, whenever I try to, it asks me for a password, and if I am wrong it re pops up, and if I am correct, it just says access is denied. There must be a setting somewhere, but I am totally confused and do not know where to look. I remember having a similar problem years ago, but can not remember how I resolved it. Vista is so much better in so many ways, but confusing in others! "KILGORQ" wrote: I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it. Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check you sharing network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work from there. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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I had that issue in XP when I turned my firewall on... Instead of sharing the
adminstrative $C can you create a new share on the drive and have it serve your purpose. You get to it through the advanced sharing button on the share 'Right Click' from the drive. This is how I worked around that. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi Thank you very much, but sine i made the original post I have already checked this and can access the default share and any new shares made, however I still have the problem that I can not access the administrative shares C$ and D$, whenever I try to, it asks me for a password, and if I am wrong it re pops up, and if I am correct, it just says access is denied. There must be a setting somewhere, but I am totally confused and do not know where to look. I remember having a similar problem years ago, but can not remember how I resolved it. Vista is so much better in so many ways, but confusing in others! "KILGORQ" wrote: I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it. Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check you sharing network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work from there. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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We are sort of on the same thought pattern! I already tried this and shared
it as W by going to \\computer from any pc on the network, I can see the W folder, I can access it and display the files, and by changing security and allowing "everyone" access on both the security tab and advanced tab, however this is really not what I want. I like the fact that on every other machine I can do \\computer\c$ type in a password, and access the drive. on here, no matter what I type, it just does not work, and I do not want "everyone" to have access to the files. I have tried disabling the everyone access from the share, or the files, the furthest I have got is from a remote computer, it asks me to log on, however it does not seem to either verify username/password or just says access denied from the start. (the same on accessing by C$ or d$ or W(with everyone deleted) ) I am confused as there seems to be no logic or any real diffrence if I choose security to everyone, share security to everyone, it just randomly says access denied or displays a log on box that does not verify. When I do get a log in box, I try the user wil which does have admin access. I am really out of ideas! and at the moment I am loged on to the remote machine through terminal services and copying the files from the other computer share in a reverse type order. It is ashame I have to do this, but this works, however I would obviously like to get the c$ and d$ share working without having to resort to any sort of workaround. "KILGORQ" wrote: I had that issue in XP when I turned my firewall on... Instead of sharing the adminstrative $C can you create a new share on the drive and have it serve your purpose. You get to it through the advanced sharing button on the share 'Right Click' from the drive. This is how I worked around that. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi Thank you very much, but sine i made the original post I have already checked this and can access the default share and any new shares made, however I still have the problem that I can not access the administrative shares C$ and D$, whenever I try to, it asks me for a password, and if I am wrong it re pops up, and if I am correct, it just says access is denied. There must be a setting somewhere, but I am totally confused and do not know where to look. I remember having a similar problem years ago, but can not remember how I resolved it. Vista is so much better in so many ways, but confusing in others! "KILGORQ" wrote: I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it. Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check you sharing network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work from there. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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Interesting Mine is doing the same thing... But if I go from my XP machine to
the Vista Machine it works fine. There must be an authentication mechanism broken or we are missing some new setting somewhere. I will post if I figure anything out. "Wilhil" wrote: We are sort of on the same thought pattern! I already tried this and shared it as W by going to \\computer from any pc on the network, I can see the W folder, I can access it and display the files, and by changing security and allowing "everyone" access on both the security tab and advanced tab, however this is really not what I want. I like the fact that on every other machine I can do \\computer\c$ type in a password, and access the drive. on here, no matter what I type, it just does not work, and I do not want "everyone" to have access to the files. I have tried disabling the everyone access from the share, or the files, the furthest I have got is from a remote computer, it asks me to log on, however it does not seem to either verify username/password or just says access denied from the start. (the same on accessing by C$ or d$ or W(with everyone deleted) ) I am confused as there seems to be no logic or any real diffrence if I choose security to everyone, share security to everyone, it just randomly says access denied or displays a log on box that does not verify. When I do get a log in box, I try the user wil which does have admin access. I am really out of ideas! and at the moment I am loged on to the remote machine through terminal services and copying the files from the other computer share in a reverse type order. It is ashame I have to do this, but this works, however I would obviously like to get the c$ and d$ share working without having to resort to any sort of workaround. "KILGORQ" wrote: I had that issue in XP when I turned my firewall on... Instead of sharing the adminstrative $C can you create a new share on the drive and have it serve your purpose. You get to it through the advanced sharing button on the share 'Right Click' from the drive. This is how I worked around that. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi Thank you very much, but sine i made the original post I have already checked this and can access the default share and any new shares made, however I still have the problem that I can not access the administrative shares C$ and D$, whenever I try to, it asks me for a password, and if I am wrong it re pops up, and if I am correct, it just says access is denied. There must be a setting somewhere, but I am totally confused and do not know where to look. I remember having a similar problem years ago, but can not remember how I resolved it. Vista is so much better in so many ways, but confusing in others! "KILGORQ" wrote: I had a very similar problem and here is how I fixed it. Check your Domain Name and or Workgroup Name. It is possible you do not belong to the network you are trying to connect to. Also it look like Vista want you to have an account on the Vista machine to connect to it. Or after clicking the network link on your start menu select NETWORK CENTER. The check you sharing network file and printer settings. Change Network Access to " Anyone who can connect to my network" Then retry connecting to you drive. It should work from there. "Wilhil" wrote: Hi I have a mid size network here of about 30ish machines (made out of laptops, desktops and servers). I use the hard drives of all of them for storage of large files across the network, I have a username and password that is similar on all of them to not get confused and I go to \\computername\c$ or \d$ I have installed vista on a new machine and using the user I created in setup, I am unable to log on to it. I have been using computers for years and have tried pretty much everything I can think of, Vista has changed so many networking things and it has totally confused me! anyway, from any machine I have tried both \\vistapc\c$ \d$ (it has both drives, and they are by default set to share). I have disabled the built in firewall, and the machine is on the network fine, it can access internet and other pcs. I have also on the d drive set up a second share called w with full access to everyone, and I can now go to that and view the files on the root drive, but I can not view, modify any files or go in to any subdirectory. the everyone account does have full access to this folder. on any other machine when I go to \c$ I usually get a box to login which works, on this vista machine I either get a box saying access denied or I get a log on box which seems to not work no matter what I type in (I am sure the name/pass is correct) Is there something simple I have overlooked here or some option in Vista to enable sharing and access to the administrative shares? Thanks |
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Hello,
To access the administrative shares of a Vista computer from another computer, you will need to change a registry setting. You will need to change HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\system\LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy to 1 (DWORD). To do this: - Click start - Type: Regedit - Press Enter - Browse to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\system\ - Right-click a white area in the right pane - Click New - Click Dword Value - Type: LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy - Press Enter - Double-click LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy - Type: 1 - Press enter - Restart your computer You should now be able to connect to the remote administrative shares on your vista computer by authenticating with an account that is an administrator. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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Wow this was a big help. Is there a reason this isn't enabled by default? Or
is it a bug? "Jimmy Brush" wrote: Hello, To access the administrative shares of a Vista computer from another computer, you will need to change a registry setting. You will need to change HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\system\LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy to 1 (DWORD). To do this: - Click start - Type: Regedit - Press Enter - Browse to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\system\ - Right-click a white area in the right pane - Click New - Click Dword Value - Type: LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy - Press Enter - Double-click LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy - Type: 1 - Press enter - Restart your computer You should now be able to connect to the remote administrative shares on your vista computer by authenticating with an account that is an administrator. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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