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I have had recent problems installing external hd's on Vista 64. I have
run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers the new harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to an unknown device being listed. Even when the unknown device is listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove the partition but can not change the drive letters or format or create a new partition through the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems with Vista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? |
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On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld
wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I
can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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The folder for the driver to correct the unknown device is windows\winsxs. Do a manual install with this directory as the driver location. Also there may be anoter problem if you continue to get the unmkown driver. in that case you will need to delete the infcache.1 file in the windows\inf folder and restart the stystem. The infcache can become corrupt and deleting the file will cause vista to rebuild it on boot up. "GettingOld" wrote: when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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Thanks, I will try the windows\winsxs folder and let you know how I go.
I had already tried deleting infcache.1 several times but each time I log in, it regenerates and prompts me to install drivers for each partition. The funniest part is that these are new partitions on a HDD which I have been using since before I installed Vista. It seems that deleting the existing partitions and creating/formatting new ones triggered the "unknown device" dialogue. The drivers for the sata controller and the HDD itself are installed and up-to-date but the PARTITION itself is the "unkown device". If the windows\winsxs method doesn't work, it will render one of the partitions unusable until I delete and reformat it. The worst part is that the formatting constantly fails half-way through due to the "could not complete the operation because the disk management console view is not up-to-date. Please refresh/restart/reboot, etc" message. None of the three options (refresh, restart disk management or reboot windows) do anything to alleviate the problem. It means I am unable to assign different drive letters to these partitions, or any unassigned USB devices, either. Thanks again, I'll check back with an update tonight. "GettingOld" wrote: The folder for the driver to correct the unknown device is windows\winsxs. Do a manual install with this directory as the driver location. Also there may be anoter problem if you continue to get the unmkown driver. in that case you will need to delete the infcache.1 file in the windows\inf folder and restart the stystem. The infcache can become corrupt and deleting the file will cause vista to rebuild it on boot up. "GettingOld" wrote: when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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strangely fixed it by telling device manager to scan for hardware
changes...it then told me it couldn't install either instance of "generic storage" and the drives mysteriously STAYED VISIBLE. No more prompts for drivers! Lucky me! Yay! "el stiko" wrote: Thanks, I will try the windows\winsxs folder and let you know how I go. I had already tried deleting infcache.1 several times but each time I log in, it regenerates and prompts me to install drivers for each partition. The funniest part is that these are new partitions on a HDD which I have been using since before I installed Vista. It seems that deleting the existing partitions and creating/formatting new ones triggered the "unknown device" dialogue. The drivers for the sata controller and the HDD itself are installed and up-to-date but the PARTITION itself is the "unkown device". If the windows\winsxs method doesn't work, it will render one of the partitions unusable until I delete and reformat it. The worst part is that the formatting constantly fails half-way through due to the "could not complete the operation because the disk management console view is not up-to-date. Please refresh/restart/reboot, etc" message. None of the three options (refresh, restart disk management or reboot windows) do anything to alleviate the problem. It means I am unable to assign different drive letters to these partitions, or any unassigned USB devices, either. Thanks again, I'll check back with an update tonight. "GettingOld" wrote: The folder for the driver to correct the unknown device is windows\winsxs. Do a manual install with this directory as the driver location. Also there may be anoter problem if you continue to get the unmkown driver. in that case you will need to delete the infcache.1 file in the windows\inf folder and restart the stystem. The infcache can become corrupt and deleting the file will cause vista to rebuild it on boot up. "GettingOld" wrote: when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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ON REBOOT, THE DRIVE HAS VANISHED AGAIN.
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD SORRY FOR THE CAPS DARNIT "el Stiko" wrote: strangely fixed it by telling device manager to scan for hardware changes...it then told me it couldn't install either instance of "generic storage" and the drives mysteriously STAYED VISIBLE. No more prompts for drivers! Lucky me! Yay! "el stiko" wrote: Thanks, I will try the windows\winsxs folder and let you know how I go. I had already tried deleting infcache.1 several times but each time I log in, it regenerates and prompts me to install drivers for each partition. The funniest part is that these are new partitions on a HDD which I have been using since before I installed Vista. It seems that deleting the existing partitions and creating/formatting new ones triggered the "unknown device" dialogue. The drivers for the sata controller and the HDD itself are installed and up-to-date but the PARTITION itself is the "unkown device". If the windows\winsxs method doesn't work, it will render one of the partitions unusable until I delete and reformat it. The worst part is that the formatting constantly fails half-way through due to the "could not complete the operation because the disk management console view is not up-to-date. Please refresh/restart/reboot, etc" message. None of the three options (refresh, restart disk management or reboot windows) do anything to alleviate the problem. It means I am unable to assign different drive letters to these partitions, or any unassigned USB devices, either. Thanks again, I'll check back with an update tonight. "GettingOld" wrote: The folder for the driver to correct the unknown device is windows\winsxs. Do a manual install with this directory as the driver location. Also there may be anoter problem if you continue to get the unmkown driver. in that case you will need to delete the infcache.1 file in the windows\inf folder and restart the stystem. The infcache can become corrupt and deleting the file will cause vista to rebuild it on boot up. "GettingOld" wrote: when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |
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Similar problem here...I removed a 3rd IDE drive to initiate My personalized
nightmare (my external USB hd enclosure stopped working, vanished from explorer (along with the drive I removed),and showed in disk management but when i tried to manipulate that drive...i got same error about updating the console view...I tried removing hard drives, usb devices, etc...all to no avail.... I then tried it on another vista 64 PC..and 1 second later there was a happy beep and a sad face!!! I also cannot delete the infcache file but was able to manualy update drive in devman and pointed to the c:\windows\winsux (oops typo) folder and it corrected my problem so far....rebooting...cya's and thanks fer yer posts they helped me! |
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installed the "generic volume" driver from windows\winsxs and it's fine now.
Thanks! Now Ijust need to get letters assinged to my usb and phone again...it still says "view not up-to-date" in devman... "el Stiko" wrote: ON REBOOT, THE DRIVE HAS VANISHED AGAIN. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD SORRY FOR THE CAPS DARNIT "el Stiko" wrote: strangely fixed it by telling device manager to scan for hardware changes...it then told me it couldn't install either instance of "generic storage" and the drives mysteriously STAYED VISIBLE. No more prompts for drivers! Lucky me! Yay! "el stiko" wrote: Thanks, I will try the windows\winsxs folder and let you know how I go. I had already tried deleting infcache.1 several times but each time I log in, it regenerates and prompts me to install drivers for each partition. The funniest part is that these are new partitions on a HDD which I have been using since before I installed Vista. It seems that deleting the existing partitions and creating/formatting new ones triggered the "unknown device" dialogue. The drivers for the sata controller and the HDD itself are installed and up-to-date but the PARTITION itself is the "unkown device". If the windows\winsxs method doesn't work, it will render one of the partitions unusable until I delete and reformat it. The worst part is that the formatting constantly fails half-way through due to the "could not complete the operation because the disk management console view is not up-to-date. Please refresh/restart/reboot, etc" message. None of the three options (refresh, restart disk management or reboot windows) do anything to alleviate the problem. It means I am unable to assign different drive letters to these partitions, or any unassigned USB devices, either. Thanks again, I'll check back with an update tonight. "GettingOld" wrote: The folder for the driver to correct the unknown device is windows\winsxs. Do a manual install with this directory as the driver location. Also there may be anoter problem if you continue to get the unmkown driver. in that case you will need to delete the infcache.1 file in the windows\inf folder and restart the stystem. The infcache can become corrupt and deleting the file will cause vista to rebuild it on boot up. "GettingOld" wrote: when the unknown device error pops up, install the driver manually. I can't remember if the driver location was in windows32 folder or the driverstore folder. But the driver it needs is there, but you have to point the hardware applet to right folder. If you can't get it to load let me know and I will try and find my notes on the problem. oldguy "eL_sTiKo" wrote: On Feb 19, 9:22 am, GettingOld wrote: I have had recent problems installing external hd's onVista64. I have run into problems with USB2.0 as well as eSATA. The drive will appear under the device manager under "disk drives". But it triggers thenew harware wizard, which can't load a driver, which leads to anunknown device being listed. Even when theunknown deviceis listed the drive still appears under "disk drives". The drive will appear under disk manager, but it is unaccesable. You can remove thepartitionbut can not change the drive letters or format or create anewpartitionthrough the wizard. The wizard will go through the motions and then the Drive manager has a message asking to refresh or restart the console which has no effect. The drive works fine under XP. Xp recognizes the drive and loads it right up. I had the same exact problem with the usb drive. I went through all of the usbstor files solutions and deleted the infcache file and finally got the usb drive working. No such luck with the eSATA drive. I have tried to point the wizard to the windows32\drivers folder with no luck. I have tried to update the driver manually through the properties dialog box and it starts to update and then says an error occured and the drivers could not be loaded. What is the problem with Vista64. If XP does such a great job recognizing the drive why the problems withVista. I will addd that I have a dual boot machine XP/Vista64, so it is not a hardware problem with the computer. Any advice? I have the same problem. It happens whenever i create a new partition on my second hdd (sata). Vista thinks the new partition is an "unknown device" and will only let me use it if I choose the "ask me about drivers later" option. If I choose to search for drivers, or say "don't ask me", it disables the partition, removing the assigned drive letter, etc. So I'm currently clicking "ask me later" twice each time I log on (once for each partition). did you find a solution? |