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My new computer (Vista) is wired to a wireless router. While the router sees
all other connections to the network, Vista doesn't recognize ANY computer (1 on XP, 1 a MacBook and 1 a wireless game system). How do I get Vista to recognize the other computers on the network? Previous XP computer saw and allowed sharing without issue, so not a hardware problem I'm thinking, as the new computer/Vista is the only change to the system. |
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GayleC wrote:
My new computer (Vista) is wired to a wireless router. While the router sees all other connections to the network, Vista doesn't recognize ANY computer (1 on XP, 1 a MacBook and 1 a wireless game system). How do I get Vista to recognize the other computers on the network? Previous XP computer saw and allowed sharing without issue, so not a hardware problem I'm thinking, as the new computer/Vista is the only change to the system. Can't help you with the "wireless game system" but here is how to network Vista to XP and to the Mac. I. Vista network setup: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx II. XP network setup: For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: 1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. 2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. III. Mac OS X network setup with Vista This assumes that you have correctly set up Windows Sharing in OS X. If you have Leopard, make sure you are using the SMB protocol and not AFP. You must create matching user accounts/passwords on both the Mac and Vista. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop in Vista (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm You also need to make sure you've correctly configured your firewalls on both machines to allow the Local Area Network as trusted. To enable Windows Vista to connect to Mac OS X with Windows File Sharing enabled, you will need to change the following policy in Windows Vista: StartRunsecpol.msc [enter] Click on "Local Policies" -- "Security Options" Navigate to the policy "Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level" and double-click it to get its Properties. By default Windows Vista sets the policy to "NTVLM2 responses only". Use the drop-down arrow to change this to "LM and NTLM ? use NTLMV2 session security if negotiated". In Vista Home Premium, you won't have this tool so per Steve Winograd, do: 1. Run the registry editor and open this key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa 1. If it doesn't already exist, create a DWORD value named LmCompatibilityLevel 3. Set the value to 1 4. Reboot Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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Malke thanks for the great information. Couldn't get my daughters Mac to
connect to our home network. Bam second post down you had Steve Winograd's solution right there. Heck it took me longer to find the newsgroup then it did to find a solution. Thanks. On a side note love your website. If I we're in the fresno area I'd definately consider letting you fix my computer good luck with your business. thanks Rodger "Malke" wrote: GayleC wrote: My new computer (Vista) is wired to a wireless router. While the router sees all other connections to the network, Vista doesn't recognize ANY computer (1 on XP, 1 a MacBook and 1 a wireless game system). How do I get Vista to recognize the other computers on the network? Previous XP computer saw and allowed sharing without issue, so not a hardware problem I'm thinking, as the new computer/Vista is the only change to the system. Can't help you with the "wireless game system" but here is how to network Vista to XP and to the Mac. I. Vista network setup: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx II. XP network setup: For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: 1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. 2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. III. Mac OS X network setup with Vista This assumes that you have correctly set up Windows Sharing in OS X. If you have Leopard, make sure you are using the SMB protocol and not AFP. You must create matching user accounts/passwords on both the Mac and Vista. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop in Vista (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm You also need to make sure you've correctly configured your firewalls on both machines to allow the Local Area Network as trusted. To enable Windows Vista to connect to Mac OS X with Windows File Sharing enabled, you will need to change the following policy in Windows Vista: StartRunsecpol.msc [enter] Click on "Local Policies" -- "Security Options" Navigate to the policy "Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level" and double-click it to get its Properties. By default Windows Vista sets the policy to "NTVLM2 responses only". Use the drop-down arrow to change this to "LM and NTLM ? use NTLMV2 session security if negotiated". In Vista Home Premium, you won't have this tool so per Steve Winograd, do: 1. Run the registry editor and open this key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa 1. If it doesn't already exist, create a DWORD value named LmCompatibilityLevel 3. Set the value to 1 4. Reboot Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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Rodger wrote:
Malke thanks for the great information. Couldn't get my daughters Mac to connect to our home network. Bam second post down you had Steve Winograd's solution right there. Heck it took me longer to find the newsgroup then it did to find a solution. Thanks. On a side note love your website. If I we're in the fresno area I'd definately consider letting you fix my computer good luck with your business. thanks Rodger I'm glad that worked for you, Rodger. Thanks for letting me know and for the nice words. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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On Feb 27, 4:22 pm, Malke wrote:
Rodger wrote: Malke thanks for the great information. Couldn't get my daughtersMacto connect to our home network. Bam second post down you had Steve Winograd's solution right there. Heck it took me longer to find the newsgroup then it did to find a solution. Thanks. On a side note love your website. If I we're in the fresno area I'd definately consider letting you fix my computer good luck with your business. thanks Rodger I'm glad that worked for you, Rodger. Thanks for letting me know and for the nice words. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computerswww.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! I had a similar problem. I have a wirelessly connected MAC on OSX 10.4 and a wired Vista PC. My wireless and wired networks are in different subnets. Until recently I have been running XP on my PC and both file and print sharing worked fine with smb. After moving to Vista, I was able to get file sharing to work with smb, but not print sharing. Vista seems to be lacking the appropriate service to make this work properly. However, I was able to get printing working using the LPD service, which OSX 10.4 supports in addition to smb. This article is what led me down that path: http://applejac.typepad.com/applejac..._xwindows.html Hope this helps. |