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I can confirm that I am having the same issues. I work for the ITI Data
Networks group here at Purdue University. We too use 802.1x/RADIUS authentication utilizing PEAP/MSCHAP. I have tried setting up Vista just like I would in XP. Wireless Profile: Connection Connect Automatically when this network is in range (checked) Connect even if the network is not broadcasting (checked) Security Security Type: WPA-Enterprise Encryption Type: TKIP Network Authentication Method: Protected EAP (PEAP) Settings Validate Server Certificate (checked) Trusted Root Certification Authorities: Thawte Premium Server CA Authentication Method: Secured Password (EAP-MSCHAP v2) Configure Automatically use my windows login name and password (UNCHECKED) Enable Fast Reconnect (checked) Cache user information for subsequent connections (checked) The result is that you receive a bubble asking for "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" Clicking it prompts you for your credentials. I enter the username and password and click OK. Within 30 seconds "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" bubble appears again. This loop will continue to happen. Enter in a username and password, wait, bubble back again, repeat. Is this a known problem with Vista? --Peter "Techster" wrote in message news ![]() Our school is using a similar network with radius/802.1x credential based authentication that only requires a username and password. I followed the instructions and have zipped the entire folder and made them available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/wireless_trace.zip. I ran similar commands on a successful XP client that is almost exactly the same and made it available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/XP_trace.zip. Today was my first attempt at this, and i will be taking the system home to try on my home network to make sure it can connect to open, wep, wpa networks as well. I look forward to future updates, Jeff Gibson "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Also note that in vista to get a balloon for entering credentials, you must uncheck the box which says "Use my windows credentials" in the MSCHAPv2 advanced settings. OR just use discovery to connect to a 1x/WPA network while logged on as a non-domain user. Either of these methods will cause a balloon to appear to enter alternate credentials. If you are still seeing a failure, the following steps will log what is going wrong: 1. Launch an elevated command prompt 2. netsh wlan set tra yes 3. Reproduce the problem 4. netsh wlan set tra no (make sure this is still in an elevated command prompt, and wait for the command to complete) 5. Tracing results will be in %windir%\tracing\wireless (try report.html or just attach a zip file of the dir) -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ladislav" wrote in message ... I the same problem, manualy configuration is correctly but after try connect to wireless network - Vista not asked userneme and password. In XP this working correctly and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. Ladislav "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Are you on a domain or workgroup? Are you using certificate based authentication? Assuming that you are connecting to a network that requires a certificate, you are probably hitting the following: In vista the default authentication was changed from certificate based auth to PEAP/MSCHAPv2. This means when using discovery to connect to a network for which requires an EAP type, this is the new default. To connect to a network which uses another eap type you need to create a wireless profile for that network in advance. This can be done through group policy or by creating a profile from the "Get connected Wizard." To do this, just click "set up a connection or network" on the "connect to a network" page (then chose "Manually connect to a wireless network"). After typing the SSID (case sensitive) and setting the initial security settings, click next. The next page will have a button which says "Change connection settings." Click it. Here you can change the auth type back to "Smart card or other certificate" on the "security" tab. Set any other relavent settings while here. After pressing OK, you should be connected to your network (assuming that automatic connections were allowed earlier in the process). The design of the wireless "discovery" (using the UI) phase is not necessarily designed to connect to networks which require management and there are a range of options to create/distribute wireless profiles in advance from netsh scripting to group policy. Creating a wireless profile (steps above) is the more powerful method of connecting to any type of network manually. -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Costanza" wrote in message ... I thought it would be something like that. I just don't really want to annoy our sys admins about it too much as it is my personal laptop I have decided to run Vista on, trying to connect to work wireless network. "drahnier" wrote: You're not alone. Same setup, same problem. No idea how to solve this tough. Somehow my radius server (ZyXEL Vantage Radius 50) doesn't seem to like what is passed to it. "Costanza" wrote: The problem that stopped me using Beta 2, is still there with RC1 for me. Trying to connect to WPA Enterprise, TKIP PEAP with certificate validation off, and just using a username/password combination, no domain name. This worked fine in XP. I get asked for my username and password, provide the ones which have worked for a long time in XP, and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. I put them in again, and after a similar length of time I am told I can not connect. Anyone have this problem or any ideas on a solution? |
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***The trace is located on a webserver due MS article size permissions***
I am attaching the 802.1x trace that I did during the authentication attempts. This was done by running "netsh wlan set tra yes" before I entered my credentials and then "netsh wlan set tra no" after performing several iterations of entering my credentials. See referenced text file 10-2-2006wirelesstrace.txt (98K) http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~psloan/wi...elesstrace.txt Thanks "Petely (Peter Sloan)" wrote in message ... I can confirm that I am having the same issues. I work for the ITI Data Networks group here at Purdue University. We too use 802.1x/RADIUS authentication utilizing PEAP/MSCHAP. I have tried setting up Vista just like I would in XP. Wireless Profile: Connection Connect Automatically when this network is in range (checked) Connect even if the network is not broadcasting (checked) Security Security Type: WPA-Enterprise Encryption Type: TKIP Network Authentication Method: Protected EAP (PEAP) Settings Validate Server Certificate (checked) Trusted Root Certification Authorities: Thawte Premium Server CA Authentication Method: Secured Password (EAP-MSCHAP v2) Configure Automatically use my windows login name and password (UNCHECKED) Enable Fast Reconnect (checked) Cache user information for subsequent connections (checked) The result is that you receive a bubble asking for "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" Clicking it prompts you for your credentials. I enter the username and password and click OK. Within 30 seconds "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" bubble appears again. This loop will continue to happen. Enter in a username and password, wait, bubble back again, repeat. Is this a known problem with Vista? --Peter "Techster" wrote in message news ![]() Our school is using a similar network with radius/802.1x credential based authentication that only requires a username and password. I followed the instructions and have zipped the entire folder and made them available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/wireless_trace.zip. I ran similar commands on a successful XP client that is almost exactly the same and made it available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/XP_trace.zip. Today was my first attempt at this, and i will be taking the system home to try on my home network to make sure it can connect to open, wep, wpa networks as well. I look forward to future updates, Jeff Gibson "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Also note that in vista to get a balloon for entering credentials, you must uncheck the box which says "Use my windows credentials" in the MSCHAPv2 advanced settings. OR just use discovery to connect to a 1x/WPA network while logged on as a non-domain user. Either of these methods will cause a balloon to appear to enter alternate credentials. If you are still seeing a failure, the following steps will log what is going wrong: 1. Launch an elevated command prompt 2. netsh wlan set tra yes 3. Reproduce the problem 4. netsh wlan set tra no (make sure this is still in an elevated command prompt, and wait for the command to complete) 5. Tracing results will be in %windir%\tracing\wireless (try report.html or just attach a zip file of the dir) -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ladislav" wrote in message ... I the same problem, manualy configuration is correctly but after try connect to wireless network - Vista not asked userneme and password. In XP this working correctly and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. Ladislav "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Are you on a domain or workgroup? Are you using certificate based authentication? Assuming that you are connecting to a network that requires a certificate, you are probably hitting the following: In vista the default authentication was changed from certificate based auth to PEAP/MSCHAPv2. This means when using discovery to connect to a network for which requires an EAP type, this is the new default. To connect to a network which uses another eap type you need to create a wireless profile for that network in advance. This can be done through group policy or by creating a profile from the "Get connected Wizard." To do this, just click "set up a connection or network" on the "connect to a network" page (then chose "Manually connect to a wireless network"). After typing the SSID (case sensitive) and setting the initial security settings, click next. The next page will have a button which says "Change connection settings." Click it. Here you can change the auth type back to "Smart card or other certificate" on the "security" tab. Set any other relavent settings while here. After pressing OK, you should be connected to your network (assuming that automatic connections were allowed earlier in the process). The design of the wireless "discovery" (using the UI) phase is not necessarily designed to connect to networks which require management and there are a range of options to create/distribute wireless profiles in advance from netsh scripting to group policy. Creating a wireless profile (steps above) is the more powerful method of connecting to any type of network manually. -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Costanza" wrote in message ... I thought it would be something like that. I just don't really want to annoy our sys admins about it too much as it is my personal laptop I have decided to run Vista on, trying to connect to work wireless network. "drahnier" wrote: You're not alone. Same setup, same problem. No idea how to solve this tough. Somehow my radius server (ZyXEL Vantage Radius 50) doesn't seem to like what is passed to it. "Costanza" wrote: The problem that stopped me using Beta 2, is still there with RC1 for me. Trying to connect to WPA Enterprise, TKIP PEAP with certificate validation off, and just using a username/password combination, no domain name. This worked fine in XP. I get asked for my username and password, provide the ones which have worked for a long time in XP, and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. I put them in again, and after a similar length of time I am told I can not connect. Anyone have this problem or any ideas on a solution? |
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Several persons reported a similar problem here. Here in Portugal, colleges have a joint 802.1x/WEP network called "e-U", which allows students from one college to use wireless network at any other college. Worked fine in Windows XP SP2, but doesn't work with the same exact settings in Vista RC1. It just keeps trying to authenticate and asking for credentials. I've talked to admins, and they don't have a clue of what's going on. I hope someone at Microsoft will talk about what changed in 802.1x implementation so we can unravel what's happening. Best regards. "Petely (Peter Sloan)" wrote: ***The trace is located on a webserver due MS article size permissions*** I am attaching the 802.1x trace that I did during the authentication attempts. This was done by running "netsh wlan set tra yes" before I entered my credentials and then "netsh wlan set tra no" after performing several iterations of entering my credentials. See referenced text file 10-2-2006wirelesstrace.txt (98K) http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~psloan/wi...elesstrace.txt Thanks "Petely (Peter Sloan)" wrote in message ... I can confirm that I am having the same issues. I work for the ITI Data Networks group here at Purdue University. We too use 802.1x/RADIUS authentication utilizing PEAP/MSCHAP. I have tried setting up Vista just like I would in XP. Wireless Profile: Connection Connect Automatically when this network is in range (checked) Connect even if the network is not broadcasting (checked) Security Security Type: WPA-Enterprise Encryption Type: TKIP Network Authentication Method: Protected EAP (PEAP) Settings Validate Server Certificate (checked) Trusted Root Certification Authorities: Thawte Premium Server CA Authentication Method: Secured Password (EAP-MSCHAP v2) Configure Automatically use my windows login name and password (UNCHECKED) Enable Fast Reconnect (checked) Cache user information for subsequent connections (checked) The result is that you receive a bubble asking for "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" Clicking it prompts you for your credentials. I enter the username and password and click OK. Within 30 seconds "Addition information is required to connect to PAL2.0" bubble appears again. This loop will continue to happen. Enter in a username and password, wait, bubble back again, repeat. Is this a known problem with Vista? --Peter "Techster" wrote in message news ![]() Our school is using a similar network with radius/802.1x credential based authentication that only requires a username and password. I followed the instructions and have zipped the entire folder and made them available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/wireless_trace.zip. I ran similar commands on a successful XP client that is almost exactly the same and made it available at http://www.utdallas.edu/~jmg019010/XP_trace.zip. Today was my first attempt at this, and i will be taking the system home to try on my home network to make sure it can connect to open, wep, wpa networks as well. I look forward to future updates, Jeff Gibson "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Also note that in vista to get a balloon for entering credentials, you must uncheck the box which says "Use my windows credentials" in the MSCHAPv2 advanced settings. OR just use discovery to connect to a 1x/WPA network while logged on as a non-domain user. Either of these methods will cause a balloon to appear to enter alternate credentials. If you are still seeing a failure, the following steps will log what is going wrong: 1. Launch an elevated command prompt 2. netsh wlan set tra yes 3. Reproduce the problem 4. netsh wlan set tra no (make sure this is still in an elevated command prompt, and wait for the command to complete) 5. Tracing results will be in %windir%\tracing\wireless (try report.html or just attach a zip file of the dir) -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ladislav" wrote in message ... I the same problem, manualy configuration is correctly but after try connect to wireless network - Vista not asked userneme and password. In XP this working correctly and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. Ladislav "J.P. Stewart [MSFT]" wrote: Are you on a domain or workgroup? Are you using certificate based authentication? Assuming that you are connecting to a network that requires a certificate, you are probably hitting the following: In vista the default authentication was changed from certificate based auth to PEAP/MSCHAPv2. This means when using discovery to connect to a network for which requires an EAP type, this is the new default. To connect to a network which uses another eap type you need to create a wireless profile for that network in advance. This can be done through group policy or by creating a profile from the "Get connected Wizard." To do this, just click "set up a connection or network" on the "connect to a network" page (then chose "Manually connect to a wireless network"). After typing the SSID (case sensitive) and setting the initial security settings, click next. The next page will have a button which says "Change connection settings." Click it. Here you can change the auth type back to "Smart card or other certificate" on the "security" tab. Set any other relavent settings while here. After pressing OK, you should be connected to your network (assuming that automatic connections were allowed earlier in the process). The design of the wireless "discovery" (using the UI) phase is not necessarily designed to connect to networks which require management and there are a range of options to create/distribute wireless profiles in advance from netsh scripting to group policy. Creating a wireless profile (steps above) is the more powerful method of connecting to any type of network manually. -- J.P. _____________________________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Costanza" wrote in message ... I thought it would be something like that. I just don't really want to annoy our sys admins about it too much as it is my personal laptop I have decided to run Vista on, trying to connect to work wireless network. "drahnier" wrote: You're not alone. Same setup, same problem. No idea how to solve this tough. Somehow my radius server (ZyXEL Vantage Radius 50) doesn't seem to like what is passed to it. "Costanza" wrote: The problem that stopped me using Beta 2, is still there with RC1 for me. Trying to connect to WPA Enterprise, TKIP PEAP with certificate validation off, and just using a username/password combination, no domain name. This worked fine in XP. I get asked for my username and password, provide the ones which have worked for a long time in XP, and after 10-20 seconds I just get a baloon I saying I need to provide additional credentials. I put them in again, and after a similar length of time I am told I can not connect. Anyone have this problem or any ideas on a solution? |