In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the "run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this \\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the "run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this \\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

I found search for computer
Right click the start button
In the start search below "all" programs type
\\computername\



"Al" wrote:

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Oops, should have been left click

I found search for computer
Left click the start button
In the start search below “all� programs type
\\computername\


"Al" wrote:

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Thanks for the info JIM!!!!
Just tried it and it worked like a CHAMP!!!

"jim_a" wrote:

Oops, should have been left click

I found search for computer
Left click the start button
In the start search below “all� programs type
\\computername\


"Al" wrote:

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Tried your suggestion and still have difficulty to find computers on my other
subnet. I think this search works a little differently than the "search for
computers" in XP.

"jim_a" wrote:

Oops, should have been left click

I found search for computer
Left click the start button
In the start search below “all� programs type
\\computername\


"Al" wrote:

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?

Start button search works for me, locating machines on another subnet across
a VPN - so thanks for finding that, Jim_a. But why did MS move it there and
not leave it in the Network window which seems a more logical place? sigh
pg


"Al" wrote:

Tried your suggestion and still have difficulty to find computers on my other
subnet. I think this search works a little differently than the "search for
computers" in XP.

"jim_a" wrote:

Oops, should have been left click

I found search for computer
Left click the start button
In the start search below “all� programs type
\\computername\


"Al" wrote:

Sooner Al, thank you for your reply. Yes, I can configure the two routers
with the same sublet. However, my experience with two sublets is added on
security (the computers attached to the backend router can access the
computers to the first but not the other way). The point I try to make to
Microsoft is why take away the "Search for Computer...' capability from
Vista.

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

I do that, ie. have two routers with one acting as a wireless access point
only. In my case the wireless router has its internal DHCP server disabled
and its LAN Port IP address has been changed to match the subnet of my wired
router, ie. the router the connects me to my cable ISP. So the bottom line
is all my PCs and laptop are on the same subnet whether they are wired or
wireless. I use static IP addresses for my two desktops, one XP Pro and the
other Vista, and a DHCP assigned IP for my laptop. The laptop gets its
address from the NR041's built in DHCP server.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/HomeLAN.html

I also use a common C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file on all of my
PCs and my laptop to map local static IP addresses (my desktops) and the
routers to their names.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/LAN/hosts.VPN.txt

Like you the reason I do this is because the Buffalo WBR-G54, my wireless
router, will not pass GRE Protocol 47 traffic so I can't run a PPTP VPN
server behind it. The Network Everywhere NR041 wired router does...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Al" wrote in message
...
The only reason why I ran 2 routers is, my wired router has a print server
port which I use that to share printer. The other router is for wireless
capability. Other than that, I have no particular reason why I have to
run
two routers.

"Jordan H." wrote:

Sorry to say, but as far as I know, there is no option for that on
vista.
the Network discovery optiion on the network and sharing center should
take
care of that for you. if not try gonig to your start menu and find the
"run"
command. in the box that shows up try typing in the IP address for the
pc
you wanna connect to. It's usuually done like this
\\192.168.xxx.xxx\"shared
folder name" The problem you run into is that you're running 2 different
routers. Not sure how vista detects those as you might not pick up the
second router as a Gateway device. another question, why the two
routers?
why not just run the wireless router. Mine still has RJ45 ports in the
back
for up to 4 machines. Just hard connect your Vista box and you should
still
be getting the wireles connection to the other PCs. ONly other thing i
could
think of is setting up to different networks on Vista, just connect each
one
to the separate routers.

"Al" wrote:

In Windows XP, I can right click on My Network Place and there is an
option
'Search for computers....'. Where is this feature in Windows Vista?

The challenge I have is, I have two routers connected to each other
(wireless and non-wireless). In XP, I use this 'search for
computers...'
feature to find computers under the other routers (they have different
192.168....) ranges.

Can someone help?