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No. That is incorrect. The page where I am stuck at is the SECOND
screen in the Vista install process. I can't hit any function keys or anything, and the screen is stuck there with the green bar just scrolling away forever (I've left it on that screen for a whole 24+ hours one time). The screen where you select the drive to install Vista on is the EIGHTH screen in the Vista install process. Trust me, I've installed Vista on this PC numerous times on the ATA IDE drive with no problems. Oh well. This is a dead issue that won't get resolved anyway, so I just left the old ATA IDE drive plugged in and loaded Vista on the SATA drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. Thanks anyway. John Barnes wrote: If you get to the page where you have the scroll bar, you are way past the load drivers which is on the page where you select the drive to install Vista on. If you have Vista installed to the point where you are booting to it to do an upgrade install, you need to hit F8 during the last part of post and try safe mode. If you can get into safe mode, the odds are you need to install the latest video drivers for your card as the point of the scroll bar is where the video driver is loaded. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:z3qyj.32675$w94.5183@pd7urf2no... Thanks for your help John. I appreciate your input and would like to resolve this problem soon. But take a look at the screen where I get stuck: http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image1_2.html That's only the second screen in the Vista install process and I can never get to the page where it asks me to 'Load Drivers.' This Vista install should be straight forward but it isn't. I've tried everything in the BIOS and even upgraded my BIOS to the latest drivers from MSI, but still no dice. John Barnes wrote: Some BIOS's have a two step priority system. First you select the order of priority of major categories, i.e. floppy DVD hd etc. Then separately you set the priority of the HD within that category i.e. IDE SATA1 etc. What shows up on the splash screen when you go thru POST makes no difference. You need to enter the BIOS using whatever key it says at the bottom of the POST screens, often the delete key, when you enter the bios, usually the main categories are across the top and you need to scroll over the the boot priority, then enter. Within that section you would generally set up the DVD drive as first boot and the HD as second boot. Following that, you would go to the HD priority section and set up the drives in order, in your case you want the SATA drive as first and if you leave the IDE attached (I would recommend disconnecting the plug) set it up second. Save the changes and boot to the DVD. Follow the setup instructions. Have the SATA controller drivers ready on a thumb drive or floppy so you can install them where it says 'Load Drivers' on the page where you select where to install Vista. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:e2oyj.31763$w94.20470@pd7urf2no... You are correct; I think I'm going off on a tangent with this problem. I shouldn't have stated in my last post that I couldn't change the boot priority, because you can. That was my mistake. But even when you change the boot priority in the BIOS, the old ATA IDE drive will still show up as the primary master and my new SATA drive will still be the third master drive. I am starting to think that concentrating on the primary and third master drive concept has nothing to do with my problems installing Vista on the SATA drive by itself. And it still doesn't change the fact that I can't install Vista UNLESS I keep that old ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master on that IDE port and the SATA drive plugged in as the third master drive. I just want to get rid of that old ATA IDE drive and do a clean install on my new SATA drive. How come Windows XP will do a clean install with this kind of setup? John Barnes wrote: There is no chance that you are correct. Don't know why you can't find it in the manual or by browsing thru the BIOS but I assure you that there is no post 1999 BIOS where you can't change the boot priority, and any MOBO that supports SATA surely does. 99% of the BIOS's that support SATA also support boot time priority changes. LOOK FOR IT "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Awkyj.29598$w94.4767@pd7urf2no... Thanks for the advice, but for my motherboard, there is no way to change the boot priority. I made a mistake buying Vista that's for sure. John Barnes wrote: You need to go into your BIOS and set the boot priority to have the SATA drive first hard drive in boot order. Read your manual for how to enter your BIOS "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Kgayj.23811$pM4.788@pd7urf1no... I have an MSI K9NSLI Platinum motherboard with a brand new Seagate ST3250410AS 250GB SATA drive attached as the third master drive. The primary master has an old school ATAPI DVDRW. Keep in mind there is no way I can change a setting in the BIOS (or I don't know how to do it) so that the SATA device is the primary master drive, so these are permanent settings; the primary master and slave drives connect to the IDE connector on my mobo. Now, I’ve tried and tried and tried, but I can’t do a clean install nor an upgrade of Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (from DVD) on that SATA drive when it is hooked up alone (as the third master drive). But here’s the kicker. If I plug in my old regular ATA IDE drive as the primary master drive, the DVDRW as the primary slave, and leave the SATA drive as the third master drive, I can install Vista with no problems onto the SATA drive. I just have to leave my old regular ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master. If I try to disconnect my old regular ATA IDE drive but leave the SATA drive plugged in by itself, Windows Vista won’t boot. What is the deal here? How come I can have the SATA by itself as the third master and install WINDOWS XP with no problems and have a workable system, but VISTA doesn’t install. I just paid over $250 for Vista and I have to use this kind of setup to get Windows Vista to work on a SATA drive by itself? This is lame. I want to take that old IDE hard drive out of the box. Here are my install screens: First screen: “Windows is loading files...” bar goes to 100% and the screen advances Second screen: Black screen with moving green bar and Copyright Microsoft Corporation on bottom. The green bar just keeps moving on forever and doesn’t go to the next screen (which would be the colorful “Install Windows” dialog box where you choose the language, time/currency, and keyboard, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA
drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. That is completely incorrect "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:TQ2zj.40006$pM4.24131@pd7urf1no... No. That is incorrect. The page where I am stuck at is the SECOND screen in the Vista install process. I can't hit any function keys or anything, and the screen is stuck there with the green bar just scrolling away forever (I've left it on that screen for a whole 24+ hours one time). The screen where you select the drive to install Vista on is the EIGHTH screen in the Vista install process. Trust me, I've installed Vista on this PC numerous times on the ATA IDE drive with no problems. Oh well. This is a dead issue that won't get resolved anyway, so I just left the old ATA IDE drive plugged in and loaded Vista on the SATA drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. Thanks anyway. John Barnes wrote: If you get to the page where you have the scroll bar, you are way past the load drivers which is on the page where you select the drive to install Vista on. If you have Vista installed to the point where you are booting to it to do an upgrade install, you need to hit F8 during the last part of post and try safe mode. If you can get into safe mode, the odds are you need to install the latest video drivers for your card as the point of the scroll bar is where the video driver is loaded. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:z3qyj.32675$w94.5183@pd7urf2no... Thanks for your help John. I appreciate your input and would like to resolve this problem soon. But take a look at the screen where I get stuck: http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image1_2.html That's only the second screen in the Vista install process and I can never get to the page where it asks me to 'Load Drivers.' This Vista install should be straight forward but it isn't. I've tried everything in the BIOS and even upgraded my BIOS to the latest drivers from MSI, but still no dice. John Barnes wrote: Some BIOS's have a two step priority system. First you select the order of priority of major categories, i.e. floppy DVD hd etc. Then separately you set the priority of the HD within that category i.e. IDE SATA1 etc. What shows up on the splash screen when you go thru POST makes no difference. You need to enter the BIOS using whatever key it says at the bottom of the POST screens, often the delete key, when you enter the bios, usually the main categories are across the top and you need to scroll over the the boot priority, then enter. Within that section you would generally set up the DVD drive as first boot and the HD as second boot. Following that, you would go to the HD priority section and set up the drives in order, in your case you want the SATA drive as first and if you leave the IDE attached (I would recommend disconnecting the plug) set it up second. Save the changes and boot to the DVD. Follow the setup instructions. Have the SATA controller drivers ready on a thumb drive or floppy so you can install them where it says 'Load Drivers' on the page where you select where to install Vista. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:e2oyj.31763$w94.20470@pd7urf2no... You are correct; I think I'm going off on a tangent with this problem. I shouldn't have stated in my last post that I couldn't change the boot priority, because you can. That was my mistake. But even when you change the boot priority in the BIOS, the old ATA IDE drive will still show up as the primary master and my new SATA drive will still be the third master drive. I am starting to think that concentrating on the primary and third master drive concept has nothing to do with my problems installing Vista on the SATA drive by itself. And it still doesn't change the fact that I can't install Vista UNLESS I keep that old ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master on that IDE port and the SATA drive plugged in as the third master drive. I just want to get rid of that old ATA IDE drive and do a clean install on my new SATA drive. How come Windows XP will do a clean install with this kind of setup? John Barnes wrote: There is no chance that you are correct. Don't know why you can't find it in the manual or by browsing thru the BIOS but I assure you that there is no post 1999 BIOS where you can't change the boot priority, and any MOBO that supports SATA surely does. 99% of the BIOS's that support SATA also support boot time priority changes. LOOK FOR IT "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Awkyj.29598$w94.4767@pd7urf2no... Thanks for the advice, but for my motherboard, there is no way to change the boot priority. I made a mistake buying Vista that's for sure. John Barnes wrote: You need to go into your BIOS and set the boot priority to have the SATA drive first hard drive in boot order. Read your manual for how to enter your BIOS "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Kgayj.23811$pM4.788@pd7urf1no... I have an MSI K9NSLI Platinum motherboard with a brand new Seagate ST3250410AS 250GB SATA drive attached as the third master drive. The primary master has an old school ATAPI DVDRW. Keep in mind there is no way I can change a setting in the BIOS (or I don't know how to do it) so that the SATA device is the primary master drive, so these are permanent settings; the primary master and slave drives connect to the IDE connector on my mobo. Now, I’ve tried and tried and tried, but I can’t do a clean install nor an upgrade of Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (from DVD) on that SATA drive when it is hooked up alone (as the third master drive). But here’s the kicker. If I plug in my old regular ATA IDE drive as the primary master drive, the DVDRW as the primary slave, and leave the SATA drive as the third master drive, I can install Vista with no problems onto the SATA drive. I just have to leave my old regular ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master. If I try to disconnect my old regular ATA IDE drive but leave the SATA drive plugged in by itself, Windows Vista won’t boot. What is the deal here? How come I can have the SATA by itself as the third master and install WINDOWS XP with no problems and have a workable system, but VISTA doesn’t install. I just paid over $250 for Vista and I have to use this kind of setup to get Windows Vista to work on a SATA drive by itself? This is lame. I want to take that old IDE hard drive out of the box. Here are my install screens: First screen: “Windows is loading files...” bar goes to 100% and the screen advances Second screen: Black screen with moving green bar and Copyright Microsoft Corporation on bottom. The green bar just keeps moving on forever and doesn’t go to the next screen (which would be the colorful “Install Windows” dialog box where you choose the language, time/currency, and keyboard, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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You are correct DL, I was incorrect-You CAN install Vista on my system
with the SATA drive hooked up alone. Here's how I solved the problem; All this time pulling my hair out and it was a problem I overlooked from the outset: Downgrade (NOT UPGRADE) the BIOS!! My motherboard: MSI K9N SLI PLATINUM version of BIOS downgraded to: v1.9, dated 2007-09-06 previous version of BIOS used: v.1.10, dated 2007-10-04 DL wrote: drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. That is completely incorrect "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:TQ2zj.40006$pM4.24131@pd7urf1no... No. That is incorrect. The page where I am stuck at is the SECOND screen in the Vista install process. I can't hit any function keys or anything, and the screen is stuck there with the green bar just scrolling away forever (I've left it on that screen for a whole 24+ hours one time). The screen where you select the drive to install Vista on is the EIGHTH screen in the Vista install process. Trust me, I've installed Vista on this PC numerous times on the ATA IDE drive with no problems. Oh well. This is a dead issue that won't get resolved anyway, so I just left the old ATA IDE drive plugged in and loaded Vista on the SATA drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. Thanks anyway. John Barnes wrote: If you get to the page where you have the scroll bar, you are way past the load drivers which is on the page where you select the drive to install Vista on. If you have Vista installed to the point where you are booting to it to do an upgrade install, you need to hit F8 during the last part of post and try safe mode. If you can get into safe mode, the odds are you need to install the latest video drivers for your card as the point of the scroll bar is where the video driver is loaded. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:z3qyj.32675$w94.5183@pd7urf2no... Thanks for your help John. I appreciate your input and would like to resolve this problem soon. But take a look at the screen where I get stuck: http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image1_2.html That's only the second screen in the Vista install process and I can never get to the page where it asks me to 'Load Drivers.' This Vista install should be straight forward but it isn't. I've tried everything in the BIOS and even upgraded my BIOS to the latest drivers from MSI, but still no dice. John Barnes wrote: Some BIOS's have a two step priority system. First you select the order of priority of major categories, i.e. floppy DVD hd etc. Then separately you set the priority of the HD within that category i.e. IDE SATA1 etc. What shows up on the splash screen when you go thru POST makes no difference. You need to enter the BIOS using whatever key it says at the bottom of the POST screens, often the delete key, when you enter the bios, usually the main categories are across the top and you need to scroll over the the boot priority, then enter. Within that section you would generally set up the DVD drive as first boot and the HD as second boot. Following that, you would go to the HD priority section and set up the drives in order, in your case you want the SATA drive as first and if you leave the IDE attached (I would recommend disconnecting the plug) set it up second. Save the changes and boot to the DVD. Follow the setup instructions. Have the SATA controller drivers ready on a thumb drive or floppy so you can install them where it says 'Load Drivers' on the page where you select where to install Vista. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:e2oyj.31763$w94.20470@pd7urf2no... You are correct; I think I'm going off on a tangent with this problem. I shouldn't have stated in my last post that I couldn't change the boot priority, because you can. That was my mistake. But even when you change the boot priority in the BIOS, the old ATA IDE drive will still show up as the primary master and my new SATA drive will still be the third master drive. I am starting to think that concentrating on the primary and third master drive concept has nothing to do with my problems installing Vista on the SATA drive by itself. And it still doesn't change the fact that I can't install Vista UNLESS I keep that old ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master on that IDE port and the SATA drive plugged in as the third master drive. I just want to get rid of that old ATA IDE drive and do a clean install on my new SATA drive. How come Windows XP will do a clean install with this kind of setup? John Barnes wrote: There is no chance that you are correct. Don't know why you can't find it in the manual or by browsing thru the BIOS but I assure you that there is no post 1999 BIOS where you can't change the boot priority, and any MOBO that supports SATA surely does. 99% of the BIOS's that support SATA also support boot time priority changes. LOOK FOR IT "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Awkyj.29598$w94.4767@pd7urf2no... Thanks for the advice, but for my motherboard, there is no way to change the boot priority. I made a mistake buying Vista that's for sure. John Barnes wrote: You need to go into your BIOS and set the boot priority to have the SATA drive first hard drive in boot order. Read your manual for how to enter your BIOS "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Kgayj.23811$pM4.788@pd7urf1no... I have an MSI K9NSLI Platinum motherboard with a brand new Seagate ST3250410AS 250GB SATA drive attached as the third master drive. The primary master has an old school ATAPI DVDRW. Keep in mind there is no way I can change a setting in the BIOS (or I don't know how to do it) so that the SATA device is the primary master drive, so these are permanent settings; the primary master and slave drives connect to the IDE connector on my mobo. Now, I’ve tried and tried and tried, but I can’t do a clean install nor an upgrade of Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (from DVD) on that SATA drive when it is hooked up alone (as the third master drive). But here’s the kicker. If I plug in my old regular ATA IDE drive as the primary master drive, the DVDRW as the primary slave, and leave the SATA drive as the third master drive, I can install Vista with no problems onto the SATA drive. I just have to leave my old regular ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master. If I try to disconnect my old regular ATA IDE drive but leave the SATA drive plugged in by itself, Windows Vista won’t boot. What is the deal here? How come I can have the SATA by itself as the third master and install WINDOWS XP with no problems and have a workable system, but VISTA doesn’t install. I just paid over $250 for Vista and I have to use this kind of setup to get Windows Vista to work on a SATA drive by itself? This is lame. I want to take that old IDE hard drive out of the box. Here are my install screens: First screen: “Windows is loading files...” bar goes to 100% and the screen advances Second screen: Black screen with moving green bar and Copyright Microsoft Corporation on bottom. The green bar just keeps moving on forever and doesn’t go to the next screen (which would be the colorful “Install Windows” dialog box where you choose the language, time/currency, and keyboard, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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A month between Bios versions? looks like they have a problem with their
bios "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:W8nzj.44529$pM4.13402@pd7urf1no... You are correct DL, I was incorrect-You CAN install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. Here's how I solved the problem; All this time pulling my hair out and it was a problem I overlooked from the outset: Downgrade (NOT UPGRADE) the BIOS!! My motherboard: MSI K9N SLI PLATINUM version of BIOS downgraded to: v1.9, dated 2007-09-06 previous version of BIOS used: v.1.10, dated 2007-10-04 DL wrote: drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. That is completely incorrect "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:TQ2zj.40006$pM4.24131@pd7urf1no... No. That is incorrect. The page where I am stuck at is the SECOND screen in the Vista install process. I can't hit any function keys or anything, and the screen is stuck there with the green bar just scrolling away forever (I've left it on that screen for a whole 24+ hours one time). The screen where you select the drive to install Vista on is the EIGHTH screen in the Vista install process. Trust me, I've installed Vista on this PC numerous times on the ATA IDE drive with no problems. Oh well. This is a dead issue that won't get resolved anyway, so I just left the old ATA IDE drive plugged in and loaded Vista on the SATA drive. There is no way I can install Vista on my system with the SATA drive hooked up alone. It needs that IDE for some odd reason to write all its boot parameters on. What a hokey setup indeed. Thanks anyway. John Barnes wrote: If you get to the page where you have the scroll bar, you are way past the load drivers which is on the page where you select the drive to install Vista on. If you have Vista installed to the point where you are booting to it to do an upgrade install, you need to hit F8 during the last part of post and try safe mode. If you can get into safe mode, the odds are you need to install the latest video drivers for your card as the point of the scroll bar is where the video driver is loaded. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:z3qyj.32675$w94.5183@pd7urf2no... Thanks for your help John. I appreciate your input and would like to resolve this problem soon. But take a look at the screen where I get stuck: http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image1_2.html That's only the second screen in the Vista install process and I can never get to the page where it asks me to 'Load Drivers.' This Vista install should be straight forward but it isn't. I've tried everything in the BIOS and even upgraded my BIOS to the latest drivers from MSI, but still no dice. John Barnes wrote: Some BIOS's have a two step priority system. First you select the order of priority of major categories, i.e. floppy DVD hd etc. Then separately you set the priority of the HD within that category i.e. IDE SATA1 etc. What shows up on the splash screen when you go thru POST makes no difference. You need to enter the BIOS using whatever key it says at the bottom of the POST screens, often the delete key, when you enter the bios, usually the main categories are across the top and you need to scroll over the the boot priority, then enter. Within that section you would generally set up the DVD drive as first boot and the HD as second boot. Following that, you would go to the HD priority section and set up the drives in order, in your case you want the SATA drive as first and if you leave the IDE attached (I would recommend disconnecting the plug) set it up second. Save the changes and boot to the DVD. Follow the setup instructions. Have the SATA controller drivers ready on a thumb drive or floppy so you can install them where it says 'Load Drivers' on the page where you select where to install Vista. "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:e2oyj.31763$w94.20470@pd7urf2no... You are correct; I think I'm going off on a tangent with this problem. I shouldn't have stated in my last post that I couldn't change the boot priority, because you can. That was my mistake. But even when you change the boot priority in the BIOS, the old ATA IDE drive will still show up as the primary master and my new SATA drive will still be the third master drive. I am starting to think that concentrating on the primary and third master drive concept has nothing to do with my problems installing Vista on the SATA drive by itself. And it still doesn't change the fact that I can't install Vista UNLESS I keep that old ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master on that IDE port and the SATA drive plugged in as the third master drive. I just want to get rid of that old ATA IDE drive and do a clean install on my new SATA drive. How come Windows XP will do a clean install with this kind of setup? John Barnes wrote: There is no chance that you are correct. Don't know why you can't find it in the manual or by browsing thru the BIOS but I assure you that there is no post 1999 BIOS where you can't change the boot priority, and any MOBO that supports SATA surely does. 99% of the BIOS's that support SATA also support boot time priority changes. LOOK FOR IT "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Awkyj.29598$w94.4767@pd7urf2no... Thanks for the advice, but for my motherboard, there is no way to change the boot priority. I made a mistake buying Vista that's for sure. John Barnes wrote: You need to go into your BIOS and set the boot priority to have the SATA drive first hard drive in boot order. Read your manual for how to enter your BIOS "Marshall Lymer" wrote in message news:Kgayj.23811$pM4.788@pd7urf1no... I have an MSI K9NSLI Platinum motherboard with a brand new Seagate ST3250410AS 250GB SATA drive attached as the third master drive. The primary master has an old school ATAPI DVDRW. Keep in mind there is no way I can change a setting in the BIOS (or I don't know how to do it) so that the SATA device is the primary master drive, so these are permanent settings; the primary master and slave drives connect to the IDE connector on my mobo. Now, I’ve tried and tried and tried, but I can’t do a clean install nor an upgrade of Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (from DVD) on that SATA drive when it is hooked up alone (as the third master drive). But here’s the kicker. If I plug in my old regular ATA IDE drive as the primary master drive, the DVDRW as the primary slave, and leave the SATA drive as the third master drive, I can install Vista with no problems onto the SATA drive. I just have to leave my old regular ATA IDE drive plugged in as the primary master. If I try to disconnect my old regular ATA IDE drive but leave the SATA drive plugged in by itself, Windows Vista won’t boot. What is the deal here? How come I can have the SATA by itself as the third master and install WINDOWS XP with no problems and have a workable system, but VISTA doesn’t install. I just paid over $250 for Vista and I have to use this kind of setup to get Windows Vista to work on a SATA drive by itself? This is lame. I want to take that old IDE hard drive out of the box. Here are my install screens: First screen: “Windows is loading files...” bar goes to 100% and the screen advances Second screen: Black screen with moving green bar and Copyright Microsoft Corporation on bottom. The green bar just keeps moving on forever and doesn’t go to the next screen (which would be the colorful “Install Windows” dialog box where you choose the language, time/currency, and keyboard, etc.) Thanks in advance. |
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