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Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain



 
 
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Old October 16th 06, 06:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
ZackMan18
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Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem. Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the problem
is.

Please Help.
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Old January 8th 07, 07:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wolfgang Bures
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Posts: 2
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem. Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the problem
is.

Please Help.

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Old January 9th 07, 06:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Ben Derr
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Posts: 2
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

Any domain based GPOs that touch these services?

--
Benjamin Derr



"Wolfgang Bures" Wolfgang wrote in message
...
I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout
of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem.
Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until
joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts
to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the
O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining
the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the
Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the
problem
is.

Please Help.


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Old January 10th 07, 05:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wolfgang Bures
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Posts: 2
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

Just last night i found entries in the default domain policy disabling all
kind of services. I haven't got the faintest idea where these came from. Most
of them seem to be ignored anyway, because most of them are running. DHCP
Client doesnt. The policy disables it, but on the VISTA machine it is
enabled. You just can't start because of an "access denied". It seems that
the password is messed up. The account it self seems to work, because other
services using that account are running.
I will remove all these senseless entries form GPO and then try again - the
thing is only that the VISTA macghine is mainly offiste and needs to go
on-site to update the whole policy settings, so it may take a while to find
out.

"Ben Derr" wrote:

Any domain based GPOs that touch these services?

--
Benjamin Derr



"Wolfgang Bures" Wolfgang wrote in message
...
I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout
of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem.
Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until
joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts
to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the
O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining
the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the
Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the
problem
is.

Please Help.


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Old February 2nd 07, 06:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Lyle Gordon
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Posts: 1
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

I have the exact same problem you described below. After searching endlessly
I'm desparte for an answer.

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem. Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the problem
is.

Please Help.

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Old February 3rd 07, 10:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wolfgang Bures
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Posts: 7
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

The policies are removed, but there is noo change. I even removed policies
securing files and registry.
I also reinstalled the machine - still, after the domain join the DHCP
client and the Diagnostic Service fail to launch. Other services using the
same user are running, so it doesnt seem to be a user related problem. Only
"access denied".

Are there any debugging possibilities?? Any logging?

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

Just last night i found entries in the default domain policy disabling all
kind of services. I haven't got the faintest idea where these came from. Most
of them seem to be ignored anyway, because most of them are running. DHCP
Client doesnt. The policy disables it, but on the VISTA machine it is
enabled. You just can't start because of an "access denied". It seems that
the password is messed up. The account it self seems to work, because other
services using that account are running.
I will remove all these senseless entries form GPO and then try again - the
thing is only that the VISTA macghine is mainly offiste and needs to go
on-site to update the whole policy settings, so it may take a while to find
out.

"Ben Derr" wrote:

Any domain based GPOs that touch these services?

--
Benjamin Derr



"Wolfgang Bures" Wolfgang wrote in message
...
I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout
of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem.
Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until
joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts
to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the
O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining
the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the
Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the
problem
is.

Please Help.


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Old February 12th 07, 10:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wolfgang Bures
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Posts: 7
Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

This
(http://blogs.technet.com/asiasupp/ar...00-domain.aspx) could be a solution.

My Domain was upgraded from 2000, maybe something got stuck..

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

The policies are removed, but there is noo change. I even removed policies
securing files and registry.
I also reinstalled the machine - still, after the domain join the DHCP
client and the Diagnostic Service fail to launch. Other services using the
same user are running, so it doesnt seem to be a user related problem. Only
"access denied".

Are there any debugging possibilities?? Any logging?

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

Just last night i found entries in the default domain policy disabling all
kind of services. I haven't got the faintest idea where these came from. Most
of them seem to be ignored anyway, because most of them are running. DHCP
Client doesnt. The policy disables it, but on the VISTA machine it is
enabled. You just can't start because of an "access denied". It seems that
the password is messed up. The account it self seems to work, because other
services using that account are running.
I will remove all these senseless entries form GPO and then try again - the
thing is only that the VISTA macghine is mainly offiste and needs to go
on-site to update the whole policy settings, so it may take a while to find
out.

"Ben Derr" wrote:

Any domain based GPOs that touch these services?

--
Benjamin Derr



"Wolfgang Bures" Wolfgang wrote in message
...
I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout
of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem.
Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until
joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts
to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the
O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining
the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the
Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the
problem
is.

Please Help.

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Old February 14th 07, 04:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wolfgang Bures
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Default Networking "self-destructs" after joining Windows 2003 Domain

The Privilege is not my problem.

I've tried using ProcMon to see if anything gets denied but again - nothing!

I'm at the end of the line

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

This
(http://blogs.technet.com/asiasupp/ar...00-domain.aspx) could be a solution.

My Domain was upgraded from 2000, maybe something got stuck..

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

The policies are removed, but there is noo change. I even removed policies
securing files and registry.
I also reinstalled the machine - still, after the domain join the DHCP
client and the Diagnostic Service fail to launch. Other services using the
same user are running, so it doesnt seem to be a user related problem. Only
"access denied".

Are there any debugging possibilities?? Any logging?

"Wolfgang Bures" wrote:

Just last night i found entries in the default domain policy disabling all
kind of services. I haven't got the faintest idea where these came from. Most
of them seem to be ignored anyway, because most of them are running. DHCP
Client doesnt. The policy disables it, but on the VISTA machine it is
enabled. You just can't start because of an "access denied". It seems that
the password is messed up. The account it self seems to work, because other
services using that account are running.
I will remove all these senseless entries form GPO and then try again - the
thing is only that the VISTA macghine is mainly offiste and needs to go
on-site to update the whole policy settings, so it may take a while to find
out.

"Ben Derr" wrote:

Any domain based GPOs that touch these services?

--
Benjamin Derr



"Wolfgang Bures" Wolfgang wrote in message
...
I am having the same symptoms.
Did you get any responses or solutions?

"ZackMan18" wrote:

I realize that this has been posted before, but no solution seems to be
found. This is a HUGE problem and will abosolutely prevent any rollout
of
Vista in my organization if there is no solution to this problem.
Basically,
the problem is this:

- New Vista setup (new install or upgrade using RC1) works fine until
joined
to the Win2K3 domain.
- After joining the Win2K3 domain, Vista still OK after the first reboot,
but after a subsequent shutdown/restart, the following happens:
* DHCP Client service shuts down with a 1004 Access is denied error.
* No IP address is leased from the DHCP server (since no DHCP Client
service)
* Machine is logged in with cached login information but no attempts
to
correct the network failures are successful.

So far I have found no solution to this problem other than reinstall the
O/S
and all applications. I have tried saving a Restore point before joining
the
doimain and that is not sufficient for restoring the system to a working
state.

Additional information:

- In addition to the DHCP Client not starting, the following "automatic"
startup services are failing as well:

* Base Filtering Engine
* Diagnostic Policy Service
* IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
* IPsec Policy Agent
* Network List Service
* Network Location Awareness
* Thread Ordering Server
* Windows Audio
* Windows Firewall
* Windows Time
* Windows Media Center Service Launcher

All of these services are set to Log On as "Local Service" except IPsec
Policy Agent and Network Location Awareness - these are set to Network
Service. Incidentally, there are about a dozen services which use the
Local
Service account that are starting correctly so I'm not sure what the
problem
is.

Please Help.

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Old February 23rd 07, 05:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
joespr
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Default Access Denied after joining domain

I have the same problem. And I've seen various posts about this but no solution.

I (and I am sure many others) are giving up on Vista at least until it can work.

Typical M$Soft attitude: crap on the users.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
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Old April 4th 07, 01:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
ShaneMD1@gmail.com
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Default Access Denied after joining domain

I realize it's not an ideal solution, but to get started you can add
the Everyone group with full control to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet
\Services. This will get you the ability to create registry subkeys.
Procmon pointed out that the reason the services were failing with
Access Denied is because of missing permissions to create registry
subkeys, specifically in services like the Base Filtering Engine. At
this point I'm not sure what user/group lost its permissions to do
this, but it was after joining a domain.

My only hangup at the moment is the Diagnostic Policy Service. I
still get access denied on that service, but using the above I was
able to start the BFE and the Windows Firewall. I hope this at least
helps someone along enough to provide feedback or a solution to
further services down the line.


On Feb 23, 2:11 pm, joespr wrote:
I have the same problem. And I've seen various posts about this but no solution.

I (and I am sure many others) are giving up on Vista at least until it can work.

Typical M$Soft attitude: crap on the users.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choicehttp://www.eggheadcafe.com



 




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