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In message "Some
Vista User" wrote: I have 4Gb of RAM on this laptop, and when the 4Gb USB drive is working as ReadyBoost, there is a noticable speed increase... Applications open 3 to 5 times faster when its active. Even booting Vista is faster. From what I have read from the other comments, the best thing todo is connect the USB drive to one of the USB ports on the laptop and not use one of the docking station. I will see how that goes. What would be neat is if someone could find a way to use DDR RAM as ReadyBoost as well. I have a desktop running 32bit Vista, but it has 8Gb RAM (which 3.5Gb is usable). If someone could find a way of using the memory above the 4Gb limit at ReadyBoost.... This machine never gets turned off (well, maybe once every six to eight weeks). The BIOS and motherboard sees the whole 8Gb. Its just a limit on the 32Bit OS. ReadyBoost is basically SuperFetch-for-flash, with SuperFetch doing what it can within the limits of RAM. ReadyBoost has a slight advantage in that it can survive a reboot, it would probably take longer to pre-populate 8GB of RAM with cache data then said cache data could return performance improvements due to the law of diminishing returns which applies to file caching. Going above the ~3.2-3.5GB limit on a desktop x86 system is unlikely at best, given that most consumer desktops are already more or less 64-bit ready (and those that aren't are almost definitely not PAE ready), I highly doubt we'll see Microsoft putting the development work into PAE just for caching. The resources/effort would be far better used toward easing the eventual transition to the x64 platform, which has the added benefit of not only being able to use the additional RAM for Superfetch, but for other applications as needed. Just my opinion, of course. |
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Great idea! Is 4GB necessarily better than 2GB? I may do this, because I
hate a flash drive sticking out the side of my laptop. Note to all would-be ReadyBoost users: You may have to tweak your registry to use ReadyBoost with the flash drive The first time I plugged in my flash drive, it said the flash drive didn't have the correct specs. Once I made the edits to the registry, it worked fine. "JW" wrote in message ... I didn't have to do anything. If you go the store just make sure you get a flash card that says it is ReadyBoost capable since many of them are too slow. I have a SD Ultra II in my laptop and it is fast enough even though the package at the time I got it did not say Ready Boost on it. "Some Vista User" wrote in message ... Interesting suggestion ... Did you do anything special to get Vista to see your SD Flash Card as a ReadyBoost device...? I have not read anything saying you could do this... everthing talks about ReadyBoost using USB drives. The Dell Latitude D830 has a PC-Card slot, an ExpressCard slot, as well as a SmartMedia slot... One of these should be able to take a ReadyBoost device. "JW" wrote in message ... I use a USB flash drive for ReadyBoost on my desktop. However, on my laptop I use a SD Flash Card instead since I have a flash card slot on the side of my laptop and I never have to worry about it getting in the way or having to be moved in order to use a docking station. "Some Vista User" wrote in message ... I have 4Gb of RAM on this laptop, and when the 4Gb USB drive is working as ReadyBoost, there is a noticable speed increase... Applications open 3 to 5 times faster when its active. Even booting Vista is faster. From what I have read from the other comments, the best thing todo is connect the USB drive to one of the USB ports on the laptop and not use one of the docking station. I will see how that goes. What would be neat is if someone could find a way to use DDR RAM as ReadyBoost as well. I have a desktop running 32bit Vista, but it has 8Gb RAM (which 3.5Gb is usable). If someone could find a way of using the memory above the 4Gb limit at ReadyBoost.... This machine never gets turned off (well, maybe once every six to eight weeks). The BIOS and motherboard sees the whole 8Gb. Its just a limit on the 32Bit OS. "Mark" wrote in message ... I don't think ReadyBoost is designed to engage/disengage with a live system. It is either in charge, or it is not regarding the storage of these files that "boost" performance. When you disengage, Vista starts using the hard drive and memory to perform these functions. When you re-engage, Vista has no need of the USB drive because all the files are currently onboard and engaging may be a loss in performance. For this to work in your situation, the USB drive needs to move with the undocked computer. That said, ReadyBoost provides little to no "boost" unless your computer is running with 1GB or less in memory. "Some Vista User" wrote in message ... Good day, I have a Dell Latitude D830 with 4Gb RAM. I also have a 4Gb USB drive that is ReadyBoost capatible. Most of the week, the laptop is 'docked' into a Dell docking station, and the USB drive is attached to a USB port on the back of this docking station. Once in a while, the laptop is removed from the docking station, maybe for an hour or two, and then inserted again. When this happens, Vista sometime does not seem to see the USB drive and the ReadyBoost file... I have right mouse click the drive, select ReadyBoost and tell it use this device for ReadyBoost..... Other then clicking "Undock", is there anything I need to do to prepare Vista to undock from the docking station, and to see the USB drive after docking? |
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I agree that developers should put there efforts into developing 64Bit
drivers (and getting software to use more cores), but there are lot of 32Bit machines out there, and memory is cheap... Like I said, this machine never gets turned off, so the repopulation of the ReadyBoost cache is not a big problem. And, would't DDR2 RAM be faster then any USB drive...? "DevilsPGD" wrote in message ... In message "Some Vista User" wrote: I have 4Gb of RAM on this laptop, and when the 4Gb USB drive is working as ReadyBoost, there is a noticable speed increase... Applications open 3 to 5 times faster when its active. Even booting Vista is faster. From what I have read from the other comments, the best thing todo is connect the USB drive to one of the USB ports on the laptop and not use one of the docking station. I will see how that goes. What would be neat is if someone could find a way to use DDR RAM as ReadyBoost as well. I have a desktop running 32bit Vista, but it has 8Gb RAM (which 3.5Gb is usable). If someone could find a way of using the memory above the 4Gb limit at ReadyBoost.... This machine never gets turned off (well, maybe once every six to eight weeks). The BIOS and motherboard sees the whole 8Gb. Its just a limit on the 32Bit OS. ReadyBoost is basically SuperFetch-for-flash, with SuperFetch doing what it can within the limits of RAM. ReadyBoost has a slight advantage in that it can survive a reboot, it would probably take longer to pre-populate 8GB of RAM with cache data then said cache data could return performance improvements due to the law of diminishing returns which applies to file caching. Going above the ~3.2-3.5GB limit on a desktop x86 system is unlikely at best, given that most consumer desktops are already more or less 64-bit ready (and those that aren't are almost definitely not PAE ready), I highly doubt we'll see Microsoft putting the development work into PAE just for caching. The resources/effort would be far better used toward easing the eventual transition to the x64 platform, which has the added benefit of not only being able to use the additional RAM for Superfetch, but for other applications as needed. Just my opinion, of course. |
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You may find the following link informative;
http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...eadyboost.aspx "DevilsPGD" wrote in message ... In message "Some Vista User" wrote: I have 4Gb of RAM on this laptop, and when the 4Gb USB drive is working as ReadyBoost, there is a noticable speed increase... Applications open 3 to 5 times faster when its active. Even booting Vista is faster. From what I have read from the other comments, the best thing todo is connect the USB drive to one of the USB ports on the laptop and not use one of the docking station. I will see how that goes. What would be neat is if someone could find a way to use DDR RAM as ReadyBoost as well. I have a desktop running 32bit Vista, but it has 8Gb RAM (which 3.5Gb is usable). If someone could find a way of using the memory above the 4Gb limit at ReadyBoost.... This machine never gets turned off (well, maybe once every six to eight weeks). The BIOS and motherboard sees the whole 8Gb. Its just a limit on the 32Bit OS. ReadyBoost is basically SuperFetch-for-flash, with SuperFetch doing what it can within the limits of RAM. ReadyBoost has a slight advantage in that it can survive a reboot, it would probably take longer to pre-populate 8GB of RAM with cache data then said cache data could return performance improvements due to the law of diminishing returns which applies to file caching. Going above the ~3.2-3.5GB limit on a desktop x86 system is unlikely at best, given that most consumer desktops are already more or less 64-bit ready (and those that aren't are almost definitely not PAE ready), I highly doubt we'll see Microsoft putting the development work into PAE just for caching. The resources/effort would be far better used toward easing the eventual transition to the x64 platform, which has the added benefit of not only being able to use the additional RAM for Superfetch, but for other applications as needed. Just my opinion, of course. |
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In message "Some
Vista User" wrote: I agree that developers should put there efforts into developing 64Bit drivers (and getting software to use more cores), but there are lot of 32Bit machines out there, and memory is cheap... You can't just toss more then 4GB of memory into a 32-bit machine and access it at all unless some very specific requirements are met. Among them, the hardware needs to support PAE, as does each and every kernel mode driver. There are a small number of server-grade builds that support such a configuration, but the vast majority of 32-bit desktop hardware simply doesn't support more then 4GB of address space (meaning 3.something GB of memory) under any circumstances. It's simply not worth it to introduce another step between consumer x86 and x64, given that like x64, it would require new hardware and new driver support for nearly every consumer add-on. x64 is already here, and unless you're reusing old hardware, you can probably go to x64 without much (if any0 pain, and get full use of as much RAM as your motherboard supports. If you ARE reusing old hardware, you might not be able to run x64, but you almost definitely can't run PAE either. Like I said, this machine never gets turned off, so the repopulation of the ReadyBoost cache is not a big problem. You still need to reboot occasionally, and when that happens, the cache would get dumped. And, would't DDR2 RAM be faster then any USB drive...? Disk caching is a strong example of diminishing returns, once the hit ratio hits a certain point increasing the cache will yield very minimal performance increases -- There is an excellent article on technet describing the concept he http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb742613.aspx |
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