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ONly 24 hrs into using Vista. I have added my Vista PC to my Home Network. I
am trying to access the shared folder on my old PC that is showing on the network but I am denied access. I did have a password/user account set up on the old machine but have removed the password now. How can I access the shared folder across the network? |
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Vista doesn't like blank password. You should set one. This search result
may help. Vista Permission IssuesCan't access Vista because of password protection ... Connectivity issue because of security software Error 5: You do not currently have access to this file ... www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Trevor" wrote in message om... ONly 24 hrs into using Vista. I have added my Vista PC to my Home Network. I am trying to access the shared folder on my old PC that is showing on the network but I am denied access. I did have a password/user account set up on the old machine but have removed the password now. How can I access the shared folder across the network? |
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. Permissions/Share info is there as well. If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall. 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is the SAME. In Vista Network and Sharing: Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) File Sharing: ON Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared Docs) Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer. Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Trevor" wrote: ONly 24 hrs into using Vista. I have added my Vista PC to my Home Network. I am trying to access the shared folder on my old PC that is showing on the network but I am denied access. I did have a password/user account set up on the old machine but have removed the password now. How can I access the shared folder across the network? |
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Ok can you explain it here instead of providing a dead end link? I can not
find anything about fixing this password issue for myself either. I need exact step by step directions on where to go to change this password. That link you provide is useless in this regard! Thanks "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote: Vista doesn't like blank password. You should set one. This search result may help. Vista Permission IssuesCan't access Vista because of password protection ... Connectivity issue because of security software Error 5: You do not currently have access to this file ... www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Trevor" wrote in message om... ONly 24 hrs into using Vista. I have added my Vista PC to my Home Network. I am trying to access the shared folder on my old PC that is showing on the network but I am denied access. I did have a password/user account set up on the old machine but have removed the password now. How can I access the shared folder across the network? |
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Jacob2000 wrote:
Ok can you explain it here instead of providing a dead end link? I can not find anything about fixing this password issue for myself either. I need exact step by step directions on where to go to change this password. Do you not know how to assign passwords to user accounts in XP and Vista? It is done through the User Accounts applet in Control Panel. It's pretty self-explanation ("create a password") but if you do need help with it post back. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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Are you talking about assigning a password for use on bootup? I do not want
to have any sort of password on my machine that requires me to type it in when I turn on my computer. Isn't there a way of assigning a password somewhere in the computer so that I will never have to do this again for my network? Thanks... "Malke" wrote: Jacob2000 wrote: Ok can you explain it here instead of providing a dead end link? I can not find anything about fixing this password issue for myself either. I need exact step by step directions on where to go to change this password. Do you not know how to assign passwords to user accounts in XP and Vista? It is done through the User Accounts applet in Control Panel. It's pretty self-explanation ("create a password") but if you do need help with it post back. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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Thanks.. I finally got it to work. Please, remind the MVP's to mention this
issue when they are asking people about what steps they did to check out their settings. Most people do not work in a corporate environment and do not assign LOGIN passwords since their computers are at home and no one will be around it but them. People should know that they need to login to their user accounts and assign a password. Then they should be told about how to disable the automatic login window at bootup. Too much security its too much! Thanks for your help.. I guess that after months of trying to do this, I finally blew my lid! Have a good day. "Malke" wrote: Jacob2000 wrote: Ok can you explain it here instead of providing a dead end link? I can not find anything about fixing this password issue for myself either. I need exact step by step directions on where to go to change this password. Do you not know how to assign passwords to user accounts in XP and Vista? It is done through the User Accounts applet in Control Panel. It's pretty self-explanation ("create a password") but if you do need help with it post back. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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"Jacob2000" wrote in message
... People should know that they need to login to their user accounts and assign a password. Then they should be told about how to disable the automatic login window at bootup. Too much security its too much! No. Dangerous advice. Yes, someone may be the only USER of the machine, but they may NOT be the only person who might have ACCESS to the machine. If there is sensitive personal data on the machine then it is ALWAYS advisable to set a password and not to bypass this on boot-up. It is far better to have (in your words, although I can't see why you should consider a password "too much security") "too much" security than none at all.... |
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Jacob2000 wrote:
Thanks.. I finally got it to work. Please, remind the MVP's to mention this issue when they are asking people about what steps they did to check out their settings. Most people do not work in a corporate environment and do not assign LOGIN passwords since their computers are at home and no one will be around it but them. People should know that they need to login to their user accounts and assign a password. Then they should be told about how to disable the automatic login window at bootup. Too much security its too much! A simple search in Google Groups would have found this exact information, often given by me. Thanks for your help.. I guess that after months of trying to do this, I finally blew my lid! Have a good day. And now you're going around saying that MVPs didn't tell you to create matching passwords when that's exactly what I did tell you to do and you didn't understand it? That's pretty swinish behavior. Oh, and it isn't my job or anyone else's to "remind the MVPs" to do anything. We're volunteers helping people who are often ungrateful like you. Makes me wonder why I bother sometimes. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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My problem is that this is not explained anywhere when you are trying to
setup a network. There is no help menus, nor anything that even give the user an explaination of what to do (I even searched the error messages on the support website without any results). So in that reasoning, I think that Microsoft has made Vista way too secure, without giving the user any explaination on what locks are on their computer. Worse still, Vista will say that you dont have to have a password at all in the user password section. No wonder people are confused on networking their computer! I ended up tearing out EVERY security device, completely openning up my computer to the outside world because I was trying to figure out what they were blocking! That is wrong for MS to have forced me to have to do. Even a little bit of security is better then what I have had to do to fix my basic networking issues. Besides these points, I as an advanced user, want my computer to boot straight to windows with out a password! I will click my power button, walk away for 2min to grab my coffee and then come back when its done loading. The security that microsoft wants to force on me is otherwise done by me using encrypting software once my computer boots up on the files I want private. So in that sense, I do believe that Microsoft has gotten way overbearing on security without 1) explaining what is secure 2) not explaining how to setup a properly secure and easily setup network 3) plainly lying to the user by saying in the user interface that you dont have to have a password, but then blocks everything else because you didnt assign one. Microsoft needs to 1) make a wizard to setup a home network, that could assist them on setting up passwords for their entire network, thereby making security part of the process, and 2) dont make it so hard that you have to type in a password in every time you start your computer, or access your own home network! Everyone wants security, but they need to make it so that the average user wont be overly burdened by it. "Gordon" wrote: "Jacob2000" wrote in message ... People should know that they need to login to their user accounts and assign a password. Then they should be told about how to disable the automatic login window at bootup. Too much security its too much! No. Dangerous advice. Yes, someone may be the only USER of the machine, but they may NOT be the only person who might have ACCESS to the machine. If there is sensitive personal data on the machine then it is ALWAYS advisable to set a password and not to bypass this on boot-up. It is far better to have (in your words, although I can't see why you should consider a password "too much security") "too much" security than none at all.... |