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Volume Shadow Copy Service causing problems



 
 
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Old March 18th 08, 03:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Ronnie Vernon MVP
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Default OOPS - Volume Shadow Copy Service causing problems

Gerry

There is a lot of information on the net about this problem. It appears to
be an issue with a drive in all cases, but nothing consistent with the drive
type. Take a look at the following link, maybe something will jump out at
you.

"vista" "volmgr" "The system failed to flush data to the transaction log" -
Google Search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search


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Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Gerry Hickman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

OK, I don't think the problem is anything to do with VSS. I now see what's
happening. I'd been running chkdsk at the exact time of these problems,
and it's chkdsk that starts VSS!

The original problem is that the hard disk becomes unresponsive, and the
Event log fills up with

Event 57

volmgr

The system failed to flush data to the transaction log. Corruption may
occur.

\Device\HarddiskVolume3

This is a DYNAMIC volume, otherwise it would probably say something like
the "the device did not respond within the timeout period". Microsoft's
Event help does not have any help on the volmgr Event.

Caching is disabled, so I don't know why it needs to "flush" anything, it
should give an IO error instead.

Gerry Hickman wrote:
Hi Ronnie,

Kerry is correct about the Previous Versions being tied to System
Restore. You cannot disable these components, individually.


OK.

If System Restore is enabled, the way it works is to create a Restore
Point once a day, by default. It then monitors that drive and records
any changes.

The only other thing that might be using the Volume Shadow Copy Service
would be if you have a Scheduled Backup set to automatic.


I don't have any backup jobs defined. I can see VSS service start-up in
the Event log at times that do NOT match the SR scheduled task. I've
disabled SR on the C drive now, will see if VSS ever starts on it's own
again...


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Old March 18th 08, 08:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
yellowscarf47
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Default Volume Shadow Copy Service causing problems

Well, I don't know how to "turn on" the Shadow Copy... That is the most
important thing, I guess... Then, maybe, when I try to install MS updates
and other MS software and hardware that I own, it might work without me
sitting here going through everything as I did with Windows 95 - through
Vista...

any help greatly appreciated!
--
White 27


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

If you turn off Automatic restore points for a drive it also turns off
Previous Versions.

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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"Gerry Hickman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

(Vista SP1 x86)

Over the last few months I've been seeing an issue where one of my hard
drives becomes unresponsive, then it returns to normal. At first I thought
it was a faulty hard drive, either remapping bad blocks or failing
internal cache, but extensive block-level and SMART testing indicated the
drive was OK.

I now notice there's a pattern to this problem. The Volume Shadow Copy
Service is always being started by Windows around the same time I'm seeing
the problem.

I looked in the scheduled tasks to see what times System Restore (SR) was
running, but the times did not coincide with the problem. I now wonder if
it's something to do with the "Previous Versions" feature?

I'd like to disable what ever is causing VSS to start, I can disable SR,
but don't know how to disable "Previous Versions". I don't really want to
disable the VSS service completely. I'd like to run it like this for a few
weeks and see if it solves the problem.

--
Gerry Hickman (London UK)


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Old March 18th 08, 09:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Gerry Hickman
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Default OOPS - Volume Shadow Copy Service causing problems

Hi Ronnie,

There is a lot of information on the net about this problem. It appears
to be an issue with a drive in all cases, but nothing consistent with
the drive type. Take a look at the following link, maybe something will
jump out at you.

"vista" "volmgr" "The system failed to flush data to the transaction
log" - Google Search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search


Yes, I'd read most of those before posting here, wasn't convinced of the
answers. Disabling ReadyBoost certainly didn't make any difference. I've
ordered a new drive.

--
Gerry Hickman (London UK)
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Old March 18th 08, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Ronnie Vernon MVP
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Default Volume Shadow Copy Service causing problems

Yellowscarf47

Go to Start and type services and click services in the results.

Scroll down to Volume Shadow Copy and double click. Set the Start Up Type
to automatic and click the Start Button.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"yellowscarf47" wrote in message
...
Well, I don't know how to "turn on" the Shadow Copy... That is the most
important thing, I guess... Then, maybe, when I try to install MS updates
and other MS software and hardware that I own, it might work without me
sitting here going through everything as I did with Windows 95 - through
Vista...

any help greatly appreciated!
--
White 27


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

If you turn off Automatic restore points for a drive it also turns off
Previous Versions.

--
Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"Gerry Hickman" wrote in message
...
Hi,

(Vista SP1 x86)

Over the last few months I've been seeing an issue where one of my hard
drives becomes unresponsive, then it returns to normal. At first I
thought
it was a faulty hard drive, either remapping bad blocks or failing
internal cache, but extensive block-level and SMART testing indicated
the
drive was OK.

I now notice there's a pattern to this problem. The Volume Shadow Copy
Service is always being started by Windows around the same time I'm
seeing
the problem.

I looked in the scheduled tasks to see what times System Restore (SR)
was
running, but the times did not coincide with the problem. I now wonder
if
it's something to do with the "Previous Versions" feature?

I'd like to disable what ever is causing VSS to start, I can disable
SR,
but don't know how to disable "Previous Versions". I don't really want
to
disable the VSS service completely. I'd like to run it like this for a
few
weeks and see if it solves the problem.

--
Gerry Hickman (London UK)



 




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