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Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast SSID



 
 
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Old March 18th 08, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Josh T.
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast SSID

Hello, I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 5920G laptop. The wireless card is a
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN. I've successfully connected to many open
access points that broadcast their SSID, and have had no problem tracking
down and identifying access points in range of my laptop, no matter what kind
of security they use. (WEP, WAP, etc)

My current problem involves attempting to connect to a wireless AP that is
NOT broadcasting an SSID and uses WEP 128 bit encryption. For reference, I
have used a Windows XP machine and a laptop running Vista Business Edition,
both of which can connect to the AP, which resides 6 ft away. On the Vista
Home Premium laptop however, I get limited or no connectivity to the network.
For additional security, the AP has a MAC filter in place and I have
confirmed that my MAC is in the filter. Checking the packet transmission
information on the status window, it is clear that the laptop is broadcasting
packets without any issues, but none are being received. Logging into the
AP, it shows no signs that my laptop has attempted to connect.

I've installed the latest drivers available, and at this point am at a
complete loss as to why my laptop can seemingly connect to any AP but this
one. Especially since I can connect with other Vista versions, and with
Windows XP.

To ensure that I don't get a "did you plug it in reply" I would like to note
the following as well:

I have uninstalled and re-installed the wireless device from the Device
Manager

I have updated all drivers on the system both through the manufacturer, and
through Windows Update

I have all latest system updates from Windows Update as of this postin

I have ensured that the wireless device is turned on, and have connected to
an open network within range of my WEP enabled, broadcast disabled AP to
ensure that the wireless antenna is in fact on.

I have confirmed that I am in fact using the correct WEP key, and that I am
using the correct SSID.

I have confirmed that my MAC address is in the whitelist for the AP

I have confirmed that the AP works by connecting other machines to the AP.

Thoughts?


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Old March 18th 08, 07:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bob F.[_4_]
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast SSID

Sounds like it's your router, that is, it's in you possession and you have
control over it. If that's the case, I'd shut down all the protection and
sneak up on the problem. Turn on the security features, one at a time,
until you get to the fully protected stage. Or, is this an active hot
system and you can't do that?

--
Regards, BobF.
"Josh T." Josh wrote in message
...
Hello, I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 5920G laptop. The wireless card is
a
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN. I've successfully connected to many
open
access points that broadcast their SSID, and have had no problem tracking
down and identifying access points in range of my laptop, no matter what
kind
of security they use. (WEP, WAP, etc)

My current problem involves attempting to connect to a wireless AP that is
NOT broadcasting an SSID and uses WEP 128 bit encryption. For reference,
I
have used a Windows XP machine and a laptop running Vista Business
Edition,
both of which can connect to the AP, which resides 6 ft away. On the
Vista
Home Premium laptop however, I get limited or no connectivity to the
network.
For additional security, the AP has a MAC filter in place and I have
confirmed that my MAC is in the filter. Checking the packet transmission
information on the status window, it is clear that the laptop is
broadcasting
packets without any issues, but none are being received. Logging into the
AP, it shows no signs that my laptop has attempted to connect.

I've installed the latest drivers available, and at this point am at a
complete loss as to why my laptop can seemingly connect to any AP but this
one. Especially since I can connect with other Vista versions, and with
Windows XP.

To ensure that I don't get a "did you plug it in reply" I would like to
note
the following as well:

I have uninstalled and re-installed the wireless device from the Device
Manager

I have updated all drivers on the system both through the manufacturer,
and
through Windows Update

I have all latest system updates from Windows Update as of this postin

I have ensured that the wireless device is turned on, and have connected
to
an open network within range of my WEP enabled, broadcast disabled AP to
ensure that the wireless antenna is in fact on.

I have confirmed that I am in fact using the correct WEP key, and that I
am
using the correct SSID.

I have confirmed that my MAC address is in the whitelist for the AP

I have confirmed that the AP works by connecting other machines to the AP.

Thoughts?



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Old March 18th 08, 07:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast SSID

Have you treid to see if a wired connection works?
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Josh T." wrote:

Hello, I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 5920G laptop. The wireless card is a
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN. I've successfully connected to many open
access points that broadcast their SSID, and have had no problem tracking
down and identifying access points in range of my laptop, no matter what kind
of security they use. (WEP, WAP, etc)

My current problem involves attempting to connect to a wireless AP that is
NOT broadcasting an SSID and uses WEP 128 bit encryption. For reference, I
have used a Windows XP machine and a laptop running Vista Business Edition,
both of which can connect to the AP, which resides 6 ft away. On the Vista
Home Premium laptop however, I get limited or no connectivity to the network.
For additional security, the AP has a MAC filter in place and I have
confirmed that my MAC is in the filter. Checking the packet transmission
information on the status window, it is clear that the laptop is broadcasting
packets without any issues, but none are being received. Logging into the
AP, it shows no signs that my laptop has attempted to connect.

I've installed the latest drivers available, and at this point am at a
complete loss as to why my laptop can seemingly connect to any AP but this
one. Especially since I can connect with other Vista versions, and with
Windows XP.

To ensure that I don't get a "did you plug it in reply" I would like to note
the following as well:

I have uninstalled and re-installed the wireless device from the Device
Manager

I have updated all drivers on the system both through the manufacturer, and
through Windows Update

I have all latest system updates from Windows Update as of this postin

I have ensured that the wireless device is turned on, and have connected to
an open network within range of my WEP enabled, broadcast disabled AP to
ensure that the wireless antenna is in fact on.

I have confirmed that I am in fact using the correct WEP key, and that I am
using the correct SSID.

I have confirmed that my MAC address is in the whitelist for the AP

I have confirmed that the AP works by connecting other machines to the AP.

Thoughts?


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Old March 18th 08, 07:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Posts: 5,685
Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast SSID

Turn the SSID on, get it connected; then turn the SSID to not broadcast.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Josh T." wrote:

Hello, I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 5920G laptop. The wireless card is a
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN. I've successfully connected to many open
access points that broadcast their SSID, and have had no problem tracking
down and identifying access points in range of my laptop, no matter what kind
of security they use. (WEP, WAP, etc)

My current problem involves attempting to connect to a wireless AP that is
NOT broadcasting an SSID and uses WEP 128 bit encryption. For reference, I
have used a Windows XP machine and a laptop running Vista Business Edition,
both of which can connect to the AP, which resides 6 ft away. On the Vista
Home Premium laptop however, I get limited or no connectivity to the network.
For additional security, the AP has a MAC filter in place and I have
confirmed that my MAC is in the filter. Checking the packet transmission
information on the status window, it is clear that the laptop is broadcasting
packets without any issues, but none are being received. Logging into the
AP, it shows no signs that my laptop has attempted to connect.

I've installed the latest drivers available, and at this point am at a
complete loss as to why my laptop can seemingly connect to any AP but this
one. Especially since I can connect with other Vista versions, and with
Windows XP.

To ensure that I don't get a "did you plug it in reply" I would like to note
the following as well:

I have uninstalled and re-installed the wireless device from the Device
Manager

I have updated all drivers on the system both through the manufacturer, and
through Windows Update

I have all latest system updates from Windows Update as of this postin

I have ensured that the wireless device is turned on, and have connected to
an open network within range of my WEP enabled, broadcast disabled AP to
ensure that the wireless antenna is in fact on.

I have confirmed that I am in fact using the correct WEP key, and that I am
using the correct SSID.

I have confirmed that my MAC address is in the whitelist for the AP

I have confirmed that the AP works by connecting other machines to the AP.

Thoughts?


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Old March 18th 08, 08:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Josh T.
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

I'm running off a wired connection through a different router at the moment,
as the AP is in the ceiling. But yes, wired does work.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

Have you treid to see if a wired connection works?
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Josh T." wrote:

Hello, I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 5920G laptop. The wireless card is a
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN. I've successfully connected to many open
access points that broadcast their SSID, and have had no problem tracking
down and identifying access points in range of my laptop, no matter what kind
of security they use. (WEP, WAP, etc)

My current problem involves attempting to connect to a wireless AP that is
NOT broadcasting an SSID and uses WEP 128 bit encryption. For reference, I
have used a Windows XP machine and a laptop running Vista Business Edition,
both of which can connect to the AP, which resides 6 ft away. On the Vista
Home Premium laptop however, I get limited or no connectivity to the network.
For additional security, the AP has a MAC filter in place and I have
confirmed that my MAC is in the filter. Checking the packet transmission
information on the status window, it is clear that the laptop is broadcasting
packets without any issues, but none are being received. Logging into the
AP, it shows no signs that my laptop has attempted to connect.

I've installed the latest drivers available, and at this point am at a
complete loss as to why my laptop can seemingly connect to any AP but this
one. Especially since I can connect with other Vista versions, and with
Windows XP.

To ensure that I don't get a "did you plug it in reply" I would like to note
the following as well:

I have uninstalled and re-installed the wireless device from the Device
Manager

I have updated all drivers on the system both through the manufacturer, and
through Windows Update

I have all latest system updates from Windows Update as of this postin

I have ensured that the wireless device is turned on, and have connected to
an open network within range of my WEP enabled, broadcast disabled AP to
ensure that the wireless antenna is in fact on.

I have confirmed that I am in fact using the correct WEP key, and that I am
using the correct SSID.

I have confirmed that my MAC address is in the whitelist for the AP

I have confirmed that the AP works by connecting other machines to the AP.

Thoughts?


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Old March 18th 08, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Josh T.
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

The AP is managed by the company I work for, and I do not have access or
control over it. As such the current security features in place cannot be
modified.

"Bob F." wrote:

Sounds like it's your router, that is, it's in you possession and you have
control over it. If that's the case, I'd shut down all the protection and
sneak up on the problem. Turn on the security features, one at a time,
until you get to the fully protected stage. Or, is this an active hot
system and you can't do that?

--
Regards, BobF.


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Old March 18th 08, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Josh T.
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

Unfortunately this is not an AP I control nor manage, and I am unable to turn
on the SSID, even for a moment. While I have worked in IT in the past, sadly
that is not my job title in my current role, and the call to enable/disable
would have to come from another state, so I'm trying to avoid that scenario
if at all possible.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

Turn the SSID on, get it connected; then turn the SSID to not broadcast.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia



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Old March 18th 08, 09:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bob F.[_4_]
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

ok, I understand, and this makes it a little harder. Since you do have
access at least, you do know the SSID then. The Vista network wizard should
be able to set that up. Go to Start Control Panel Network and Sharing
Center Set up a wireless network, and click next. In this window there is
a place for Network Name (SSID) and the other parameters you need to set up.
You have to get it all perfect or no connection. Using the Manage Wireless
Network Wizard bring up only WAPs that Broadcast SSID and you just select
from a list. That doesn't seem like it will work for you. Does this help?

--
Regards, BobF.
"Josh T." wrote in message
...
Unfortunately this is not an AP I control nor manage, and I am unable to
turn
on the SSID, even for a moment. While I have worked in IT in the past,
sadly
that is not my job title in my current role, and the call to
enable/disable
would have to come from another state, so I'm trying to avoid that
scenario
if at all possible.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

Turn the SSID on, get it connected; then turn the SSID to not broadcast.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia




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Old March 18th 08, 09:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Josh T.
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

I have actually followed these steps in order to get to the "limited or no
connectivity" stage of the error. I can force it to try and connect using
the "connect even if SSID is not broadcasted" check box. And I have
confirmed that the WEP key is correct by trying incorrect keys and having the
process fail immediately. So it knows the SSID, it has the correct WEP
encryption, but it's receiving no packets back from the router, even though
my other test laptops (Windows XP and Vista Business) do get packets back.
Of note the wireless card in the other Vista laptop is identical in make and
model.

"Bob F." wrote:

ok, I understand, and this makes it a little harder. Since you do have
access at least, you do know the SSID then. The Vista network wizard should
be able to set that up. Go to Start Control Panel Network and Sharing
Center Set up a wireless network, and click next. In this window there is
a place for Network Name (SSID) and the other parameters you need to set up.
You have to get it all perfect or no connection. Using the Manage Wireless
Network Wizard bring up only WAPs that Broadcast SSID and you just select
from a list. That doesn't seem like it will work for you. Does this help?

--
Regards, BobF.


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Old March 18th 08, 09:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bob F.[_4_]
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Default Vista Home Premium will not connect to Wireless non-broadcast

ok, we dive down a little more. How are IP's configures? DHCP probably.
Can you do a "ipconfig /all filename.txt" from the command prompt and
post a copy to us filename.txt
--
Regards, BobF.
"Josh T." wrote in message
...
I have actually followed these steps in order to get to the "limited or no
connectivity" stage of the error. I can force it to try and connect using
the "connect even if SSID is not broadcasted" check box. And I have
confirmed that the WEP key is correct by trying incorrect keys and having
the
process fail immediately. So it knows the SSID, it has the correct WEP
encryption, but it's receiving no packets back from the router, even
though
my other test laptops (Windows XP and Vista Business) do get packets back.
Of note the wireless card in the other Vista laptop is identical in make
and
model.

"Bob F." wrote:

ok, I understand, and this makes it a little harder. Since you do have
access at least, you do know the SSID then. The Vista network wizard
should
be able to set that up. Go to Start Control Panel Network and
Sharing
Center Set up a wireless network, and click next. In this window there
is
a place for Network Name (SSID) and the other parameters you need to set
up.
You have to get it all perfect or no connection. Using the Manage
Wireless
Network Wizard bring up only WAPs that Broadcast SSID and you just select
from a list. That doesn't seem like it will work for you. Does this
help?

--
Regards, BobF.



 




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