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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete filee
I converted to Beta-2, & Pre-RC1 no problems. Today was bad bad. I installed
RC1, and cannot do anything without any kind of security permissions, of which I have tried for hours to change. I just want to be an administrator on my own machine period. I want to be able to have all access to all my files ( Home Network ). Cannot do anything, always says "need permission from (IBM-2345678\[My Name ]. Please help, I have read all the following messages, but cannot see any clear answer to my problem. Thanks in advance. |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete filee
Hello,
Please give us some more information as to what files you are trying to access, where they are located (what computer and what folder), how you are accessing them, are your computers in the same workgroup, whether you are using the same username/password on all of your computers, and from which operating system the files were created in. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete f
Jimmy, thank you for the prompt reply. Yes I have three computers, all are
under the same work group. On web page www.ipscan.com, there is a place to download the file ipscan. I click on the ipscan.exe, and try to download it to my folder C:\Temp. Here is where I get the box that I cannot bypass stating. You need permission from IBM-999999\Guy........ to access that file. I kinda got myself in a fix, reading one report somewhere that said to change ownership. I created a new user, and made it owner of all. This did not work. Where I am now is that somehow when I turn the vista machine on I have to choose from [ Administrator ] and [ My name ]. Choosing my name, I get the vista background and all icons ie.. Excel, Word, Outlook, etc.. If I choose unwisely and click on the administrator, I get a blue background of a map that is standard on an IBM laptop, plus less than one third icons, no word, excel, outlook etc. In this mode, if I go to programs, and choose word ( it is there ), then I get the box to mount the installation disk for Office 2003. I just want to sign on as the administrator, with access to all files and permissions. It is an in-house system for myself and family. I have a PIX 501 that work great, and olso use PC-Cillin for Vista. How can I accompolish this, I am sure this is what a lot of other single system users want. ( Sorry for the long winded message, I am originally from New Jersey ). Thanks again for the reply. "Jimmy Brush" wrote: Hello, Please give us some more information as to what files you are trying to access, where they are located (what computer and what folder), how you are accessing them, are your computers in the same workgroup, whether you are using the same username/password on all of your computers, and from which operating system the files were created in. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete f
Hello,
It sounds like you may have upgraded and are now having problems dealing with NTFS permissions. Although, you are having a very strange problem with your administrator account; based on the information you have given, I have no idea what the problem is with it. I am going to assume here that the only problem is permissions to access certain folders on your computer, and that you have upgraded from Windows XP, so I am going to respond based on those assumptions. In Windows Vista, every program that you run only has "standard" user access to the computer, unless it asks you for permission to run or you explicitly give it admin permission by right-clicking it and clicking Run As Administrator. Unfortunately, a side effect here is that a "standard" user can only write to your user profile directory (such as Documents, Music, Desktop, etc), and can only read data from other directories. Taking ownership of all the folders is NOT the answer, as this effectively gets rid of all the security that the system offers, and generally won't work like you expect it to. In essense, you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You should also note that there are some folders that have been moved or renamed in Windows Vista. For example, Documents and Settings is now called Users. If you have enabled show hidden files, you can still see what looks like a folder called "Documents and Settings". However, this is not really a folder, it's a junction - it's purpose is to allow old programs to continue working. You will not be allowed to access these junctions from the shell, you will need to learn and use the new locations. Some solutions: 1) BEST: Move all of the folders you want to write to inside your user profile directory; or, if every user on your computer needs access to a folder, move it to the Public folder. 2) Or: Change the permissions on the folders you need write access to by adding full permission to your username. Changing the owner is not necessary and can be harmful if you are dual booting. You should only modify permissions on folders that you want ANY programs to be able to damage without your knowledge, including untrusted programs such as viruses, malware, and programs that do stupid things by mistake. You should only change permissions on the folders that *YOU* have created yourself. For locations on your computer that the computer created, such as the windows directory, program files, etc: If you want to write to files in these areas, you will need to run the tool you are using to modify the files "as administrator" by right-clicking the tool and clicking Run As Administrator. For example, if you are wanting to edit a text file in c:\windows\system32\, you would need to run Notepad "as administrator", and then open and edit the file. In this way, your system is protected from anonymous programs modifying your computer unless you explicitly give such a program permission. This is the new security model in Windows Vista and future Windows operating systems. It is different than in Windows XP. Here's how to change the approprate permissions on folders that you have created: 1) Open an "administrator/root" explorer - Click start - Type explorer - right-click windows explorer - click run-as administrator 2) From the admin explorer, allow access from Vista - Browse to the folder you need access to - Right-click it - Click Properties - Click security tab - Click Edit - Click Add * If only your account needs acces, type your username * If every account on vista needs access, type: Users - Press enter - Click the checkbox under Allow next to Full control - Click OK Repeat for each folder you need to access. It is, however, possible to make things run like they did in XP, where every program runs with administrator permissions with or without your permission. This will effectively destroy the security of your system, as many of the new security enhancements in Windows Vista rely on this service being enabled. It is called UAC, or user account control, and can be disabled from the user accounts control panel. It is *highly recommended* that you read these forums and informative websites that teach you how to work with the new security instead of disabling it. At first glance it seems like it just causes problems, but when you really dig down into it you may find that it is actually putting more control in your hands. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete f
Jimmy; Thank you very much for the prompt replies, I really appreciate
that. I have read your response, and will try to learn how to correctly use the security settings. I will do as you have suggested with the permission settings. I will try to do some more research on the administrator problem. Could I just delete the other user ( me ), and then have only the one user ( administrator ). Just a thought. To clarify, I originally in June upgraded from WinXP SP2 to Vista Beta-2. Last month upgraded from Beta-2 to Pre-RC1 build 5536. This past weekend I upgraded from Pre-RC1 to RC1 build 5600. I chose to upgrade not full format and installation due to the fact that I have at least forty five plus programs that I wanted to be carried over. Have about a ninety percent usable rate. Many programs that I purchased thru the Internet were downloaded, and thru many many updates patches, I did not want to rebuild that, am I wrong?, will I have to completly rebuild for the final release. Again thanks very much. Guy |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete filee
"GuyDeStefano" wrote: I converted to Beta-2, & Pre-RC1 no problems. Today was bad bad. I installed RC1, and cannot do anything without any kind of security permissions, of which I have tried for hours to change. I just want to be an administrator on my own machine period. I want to be able to have all access to all my files ( Home Network ). Cannot do anything, always says "need permission from (IBM-2345678\[My Name ]. a fresh install is recommended |
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How can I set the security so that I can move, copy, delete f
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Could I just delete the other user ( me ), and then have only the one user ( administrator ). Just a thought. I don't know ... it sounds like somehow your administrator account got messed up. I wouldn't recommend it. Also, running as the built-in administrator runs outside of the "UAC" security protections, so it would be the same as if you turned UAC off completely. I chose to upgrade not full format [...] am I wrong? I can't blame you for wanting to save time, but upgrading from one beta build to another is generally considered a bad idea (except from beta 2 to RC1 - this was allowed). will I have to completly rebuild for the final release. Nobody knows yet ... but you probably will. Again thanks very much. Guy You're welcome. -- - JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ |