I have had about enough of this stupid feature.
It keeps my antivirus stuff from running at startup, and it annoys me to no
end.
I tried to turn it off, but it gave me a scary warning that bad things would
happen if I did.

Now, my question...
What are the real harms to disableing that stupid feature, and if they realy
are that bad, how can I configure it not to be so dumb?
--
God''''''''s in his Heaven.
All''''''''s right with the world.

~Nerv

now, you could take this a step further. why are you using a firewall? and
why an antivirus program? isn't it annoying to have to install these to be
safer? you may be safe for a while without them. But can you be sure it will
stay this way?

so why not have another layer of security on top of this which will prevent
programs from installing without permission?

I personally like the idea that anything that tries to install something is
asked for permission. It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto your
PC in the background.

It's annoying to lock my bike when I leave it somewhere. some people get
even used to taking their tires off to prevent stealing. It's up to you. but
you cannot blame anybody for a not secure enough OS if you turn it off.

and yes, there are programs who can turn off this feature, but only with
your permission.

another layer of security will certainly be better for most of users. If you
feel comfortable enough that you can do without it, you may turn it off.
Nothing may happen to you.




"Matthileo" wrote in message
...
I have had about enough of this stupid feature.
It keeps my antivirus stuff from running at startup, and it annoys me to
no
end.
I tried to turn it off, but it gave me a scary warning that bad things
would
happen if I did.

Now, my question...
What are the real harms to disableing that stupid feature, and if they
realy
are that bad, how can I configure it not to be so dumb?
--
God''''''''s in his Heaven.
All''''''''s right with the world.

~Nerv

Hilmar,
Hi,
a little comment.
This is part of what you say about uac.
" It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background."
Last time I ran Adaware; it found adware;with UAC on; BTW
So what does UAC have to do with stopping adware?

Jeff

"
"Hilmar" wrote in message
...
now, you could take this a step further. why are you using a firewall? and
why an antivirus program? isn't it annoying to have to install these to be
safer? you may be safe for a while without them. But can you be sure it
will stay this way?

so why not have another layer of security on top of this which will
prevent programs from installing without permission?

I personally like the idea that anything that tries to install something
is asked for permission. It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying
to get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background.

It's annoying to lock my bike when I leave it somewhere. some people get
even used to taking their tires off to prevent stealing. It's up to you.
but you cannot blame anybody for a not secure enough OS if you turn it
off.

and yes, there are programs who can turn off this feature, but only with
your permission.

another layer of security will certainly be better for most of users. If
you feel comfortable enough that you can do without it, you may turn it
off. Nothing may happen to you.




"Matthileo" wrote in message
...
I have had about enough of this stupid feature.
It keeps my antivirus stuff from running at startup, and it annoys me to
no
end.
I tried to turn it off, but it gave me a scary warning that bad things
would
happen if I did.

Now, my question...
What are the real harms to disableing that stupid feature, and if they
realy
are that bad, how can I configure it not to be so dumb?
--
God''''''''s in his Heaven.
All''''''''s right with the world.

~Nerv

how can I configure it not to be so dumb?

U got a point there. An "always allow" function for certain processes would
be necessarry to keep UAC enabled here.
The balance between security and usability is completely lost.

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Hilmar,
Hi,
a little comment.
This is part of what you say about uac.
" It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background."
Last time I ran Adaware; it found adware;with UAC on; BTW
So what does UAC have to do with stopping adware?

This is interesting. What Adware did it find, exactly?

Mostly ad cookies Robert.
Jeff
P.S. Vista ain't impervious ya know
"Robert Moir" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Hilmar,
Hi,
a little comment.
This is part of what you say about uac.
" It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background."
Last time I ran Adaware; it found adware;with UAC on; BTW
So what does UAC have to do with stopping adware?

This is interesting. What Adware did it find, exactly?

And one sec; I'll send ya a log;if you want.
Jeff
"Robert Moir" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Hilmar,
Hi,
a little comment.
This is part of what you say about uac.
" It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background."
Last time I ran Adaware; it found adware;with UAC on; BTW
So what does UAC have to do with stopping adware?

This is interesting. What Adware did it find, exactly?

And;
I'm careful too Robert;so I usually get get cookies only;to begin with;
UAC or no UAC;
Jeff
P.S. Not nice to call someone out; exactly

Jeff

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
And one sec; I'll send ya a log;if you want.
Jeff
"Robert Moir" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Hilmar,
Hi,
a little comment.
This is part of what you say about uac.
" It sure is annoying, but it is extremely annoying to
get rid of 25 ad/spy ware programs that unintentionally installed onto
your PC in the background."
Last time I ran Adaware; it found adware;with UAC on; BTW
So what does UAC have to do with stopping adware?

This is interesting. What Adware did it find, exactly?

I would love to see something like that...
It would make UAC much more bare-able...
I shall refraise my question....

If I turn of UAC, will my computer be in any more danger than it was with XP?
--
God''''''''s in his Heaven.
All''''''''s right with the world.

~Nerv


"sim.seb" wrote:



how can I configure it not to be so dumb?

U got a point there. An "always allow" function for certain processes would
be necessarry to keep UAC enabled here.
The balance between security and usability is completely lost.

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
And;
I'm careful too Robert;so I usually get get cookies only;to begin with;
UAC or no UAC;
Jeff
P.S. Not nice to call someone out; exactly

Well I'm sorry you feel that being asked "What adware exactly" was being
'called out'.

Rightly or wrongly (rightly in my opinion but I accept others may disagree)
Windows UAC will not look at cookies for the simple reason these are not
software.

Cookies are (as I'm sure you know) simply small text files stored on your
computer by websites you visit to track state on that site or family of
sites. As such they are not software; at no time during the placing or
reading of a cookie is unauthorised malicious code executed on your
computer. As such, UAC doesn't look worry about these because it considers
them to be irrelevant.

Now you may question that design decision, but considering UAC to be remiss
because it didn't block a cookie is a little like considering an iPod to be
a poor MP3 player because you can't climb inside it and drive it to work.

--
--
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
www.robertmoir.com