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Onecare - Antivirus - Vista x64



 
 
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Old September 28th 06, 04:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
rapierau
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Default Onecare - Antivirus - Vista x64


You would think with the amount of people running 64bit processors and
with the relatively close release of Vista that somebody in Microsoft
would be getting themselves organised by now to port Onecare to the 64
bit platform, now that its effectively retail on 32bit (still
supported) platforms.

For sometime now I have been running Vista x64 on the family PC and
compared with XP its a breeze and is definitely an improvement.

To install Vista x64 and watch it fly in performance (although its RAM
hungry - 2Gb here I come) and relative stability (still in Beta so no
biggy) and then see it half crippled by an antivirus product that isnt
fully 64 bit (no offence) is seriously frustrating.

After all the hype released by Microsoft about 64bit being the future,
the many how to articles for third party software vendors on how to
port their code, you would think they would practice what they preach.

Avast, Norton, AVG, and supposedly Bullguard are the only ones that are
so far partially porting their products to 64bit. Everybody else is
still on the drawing board. After using Nod32 for the last 2 years I
feel slightly disappointed with these products speeds although I give
them a 5/5 for effort. At least somebody is answering the call of the
many on this forum and others seeking protection for their systems.

Lets face it we dont install Beta software on our PC's for the fun of
it. Most of us actively partake in providing their manufactures with
feedback, error reports, suggestions on improvements and we do it for
free. Public Beta testers are the fastest way to get software to retail
because of the sheer scale of the platforms we use and how we use them.

For anybody to argue that Microsoft doesnt have the financial and
intellectual resources to move 64bit from the fringe to mainstream is
in my opinion slightly not with it. Microsoft alone has a diverse
software range that covers most peoples needs.

So in completion I will say this. Microsoft get off your backsides and
start porting your security software (youve had antivirus abilities
ever since you bought GeCAD) to 64bit and stop stuffing around. Its
your operating system, start leading by example and providing your beta
clients and public testers with the security they need whilst testing
your software and helping you speed it to production.

To those third party security software providers that are offering
beta's to users, thankyou for providing us with the protection we need.

In the end we will pay for the Beta product when it move to retail if
we like it. In relation to Vista I bet it wont be cheap either.

I wonder what antivirus Microsoft employees use on the Vista x64 test
systems.

There Ive vented my spleen. I feel better now.


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Old September 28th 06, 06:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
dick gordon
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Default Onecare - Antivirus - Vista x64

well you do have a point BUT....WXP and most likely VISTA
were developed on 64 bit machines...let's see that goes back to 1996-1998
time frame as I re-call....development platform was Digital/Compaq/HP
Alpha 64 bit processors...maybe the problem lies with doing the work
on intel/amd 64 bit processors...who knows...




"rapierau" wrote in message
...

You would think with the amount of people running 64bit processors and
with the relatively close release of Vista that somebody in Microsoft
would be getting themselves organised by now to port Onecare to the 64
bit platform, now that its effectively retail on 32bit (still
supported) platforms.

For sometime now I have been running Vista x64 on the family PC and
compared with XP its a breeze and is definitely an improvement.

To install Vista x64 and watch it fly in performance (although its RAM
hungry - 2Gb here I come) and relative stability (still in Beta so no
biggy) and then see it half crippled by an antivirus product that isnt
fully 64 bit (no offence) is seriously frustrating.

After all the hype released by Microsoft about 64bit being the future,
the many how to articles for third party software vendors on how to
port their code, you would think they would practice what they preach.

Avast, Norton, AVG, and supposedly Bullguard are the only ones that are
so far partially porting their products to 64bit. Everybody else is
still on the drawing board. After using Nod32 for the last 2 years I
feel slightly disappointed with these products speeds although I give
them a 5/5 for effort. At least somebody is answering the call of the
many on this forum and others seeking protection for their systems.

Lets face it we dont install Beta software on our PC's for the fun of
it. Most of us actively partake in providing their manufactures with
feedback, error reports, suggestions on improvements and we do it for
free. Public Beta testers are the fastest way to get software to retail
because of the sheer scale of the platforms we use and how we use them.

For anybody to argue that Microsoft doesnt have the financial and
intellectual resources to move 64bit from the fringe to mainstream is
in my opinion slightly not with it. Microsoft alone has a diverse
software range that covers most peoples needs.

So in completion I will say this. Microsoft get off your backsides and
start porting your security software (youve had antivirus abilities
ever since you bought GeCAD) to 64bit and stop stuffing around. Its
your operating system, start leading by example and providing your beta
clients and public testers with the security they need whilst testing
your software and helping you speed it to production.

To those third party security software providers that are offering
beta's to users, thankyou for providing us with the protection we need.

In the end we will pay for the Beta product when it move to retail if
we like it. In relation to Vista I bet it wont be cheap either.

I wonder what antivirus Microsoft employees use on the Vista x64 test
systems.

There Ive vented my spleen. I feel better now.


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