Hi...

I have windows vista ultimate 64.... its on my Ide Maxtor 200GB...
which is very noisy and seems to lock up....

So I went and got a Sata Seagate (my prefered brand)... and downloaded
the Disk Wizard software from Seagate to migrate drives.... rather than
having to lose all my data and operating system etc.

In and Ide to Ide situation, this works fine... you simply swap drives
over once Disk wizard finishes....

But, when it finished and advised me to swap drives over...
disconnecting IDE drive meant when I powered up PC, it would not boot,
and gave me error message... NO IDE HDD Found!!!

Obviously the boot manager is still looking for IDE drive....

So I then proceeded to use Vista Boot Pro... but this doesnt seem to
want to run on my machine?... it shows in Task Manager, but nothing on
screen...

Not one to give up, I thought I would simply use the Vista Disc to boot
to Repair mode....

I diconnected Ide drive... left Sata connected... powered up, disc
started, got to Repair window... and it showed a window for drives which
was empty... but had two tabs... install drivers and cancel... I chose
to install drivers... from my motherboard disc as this contains the Raid
drivers.. I assume thats what I need to install....
Anyways... was a waste of time, error message stating they failed...
Chose the right ones...Via x64 etc...

If I leave the old Ide hdd in, I can boot to my Sata which now has
Vista Ultimate 64... when I first booted to the Sata drive, Vista
noticed the hdd change, and I had to reactivate Vista online.. which I
did without trouble....

SO my question to all you clever people is, how do I boot to Vista
Ultimate on the sata drive.... but without having to have old Ide hdd in
at the sametime?.....

I know I could probably just reinstall Vista from the DVD.... but then
I would lose all my data... and I just dont want to do that if I can
help it.... infact it would be far easier to simply purchase a new IDE
drive instead and not have this problem.....

Any help appreciated, especially from those x64 users, who have done
this transfer.. and overcome it...

Thank-you in advance... :shock:


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GrimReaperUK

The best option is to unplug the IDE drive, enter your BIOS and change the
boot order to have the specific SATA drive first in your boot priority
(often 2 settings, one to set the HD as first, then a second to select the
specific SATA drive). After you save the changes, do a startup repair from
the install DVD. A few have had to run it more than one time.


"GrimReaperUK" wrote in message
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Hi...

I have windows vista ultimate 64.... its on my Ide Maxtor 200GB...
which is very noisy and seems to lock up....

So I went and got a Sata Seagate (my prefered brand)... and downloaded
the Disk Wizard software from Seagate to migrate drives.... rather than
having to lose all my data and operating system etc.

In and Ide to Ide situation, this works fine... you simply swap drives
over once Disk wizard finishes....

But, when it finished and advised me to swap drives over...
disconnecting IDE drive meant when I powered up PC, it would not boot,
and gave me error message... NO IDE HDD Found!!!

Obviously the boot manager is still looking for IDE drive....

So I then proceeded to use Vista Boot Pro... but this doesnt seem to
want to run on my machine?... it shows in Task Manager, but nothing on
screen...

Not one to give up, I thought I would simply use the Vista Disc to boot
to Repair mode....

I diconnected Ide drive... left Sata connected... powered up, disc
started, got to Repair window... and it showed a window for drives which
was empty... but had two tabs... install drivers and cancel... I chose
to install drivers... from my motherboard disc as this contains the Raid
drivers.. I assume thats what I need to install....
Anyways... was a waste of time, error message stating they failed...
Chose the right ones...Via x64 etc...

If I leave the old Ide hdd in, I can boot to my Sata which now has
Vista Ultimate 64... when I first booted to the Sata drive, Vista
noticed the hdd change, and I had to reactivate Vista online.. which I
did without trouble....

SO my question to all you clever people is, how do I boot to Vista
Ultimate on the sata drive.... but without having to have old Ide hdd in
at the sametime?.....

I know I could probably just reinstall Vista from the DVD.... but then
I would lose all my data... and I just dont want to do that if I can
help it.... infact it would be far easier to simply purchase a new IDE
drive instead and not have this problem.....

Any help appreciated, especially from those x64 users, who have done
this transfer.. and overcome it...

Thank-you in advance... :shock:


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GrimReaperUK

Thanks John,
I tried that many times...the sata is set to 1st boot.... still says no
ide hdd on boot up... as for running Vista Repair / recover.. gets no
furthur than Install drivers... doesnt even say what drivers.....

Have been looking at getting a replacement IDE instead.. a lot less
hastle.... just hope Microsoft doesnt lock my Vista down... be the 3rd
Hard Drive activated on same software...

I have tried writing to my Mobo manufacturer.. and also Microsoft, and
even the HDD manufacturer... to see if they have any suggestions......
seems crazy that you can easily Migrate from Ide to Ide.... but no
software yet to make Sata bootable after migrating from Ide...

I am using the Sata drive with Vista on(as long as I leave Ide
connected, but not booted to)...so its not a drive fault, or drive not
known issue... its simply the boot manager still thinking it should be
seeing Ide 1st..... just wish the software program "Vista Boot Pro" had
worked...... that supposedly allows you to easily rewrite the boot
seq....

Time I learnt more Dos instructions... would know how to do this then.
This has certainly put me off Sata.... Ide is sooo much easier and less
hastle..and all this just to run operating system...

Thanks...Grim.


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GrimReaperUK

You do a start-up repair, NOT a repair install

"GrimReaperUK" wrote in message
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Thanks John,
I tried that many times...the sata is set to 1st boot.... still says no
ide hdd on boot up... as for running Vista Repair / recover.. gets no
furthur than Install drivers... doesnt even say what drivers.....

Have been looking at getting a replacement IDE instead.. a lot less
hastle.... just hope Microsoft doesnt lock my Vista down... be the 3rd
Hard Drive activated on same software...

I have tried writing to my Mobo manufacturer.. and also Microsoft, and
even the HDD manufacturer... to see if they have any suggestions......
seems crazy that you can easily Migrate from Ide to Ide.... but no
software yet to make Sata bootable after migrating from Ide...

I am using the Sata drive with Vista on(as long as I leave Ide
connected, but not booted to)...so its not a drive fault, or drive not
known issue... its simply the boot manager still thinking it should be
seeing Ide 1st..... just wish the software program "Vista Boot Pro" had
worked...... that supposedly allows you to easily rewrite the boot
seq....

Time I learnt more Dos instructions... would know how to do this then.
This has certainly put me off Sata.... Ide is sooo much easier and less
hastle..and all this just to run operating system...

Thanks...Grim.


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GrimReaperUK

Ok... a start up repair??? what is that??.....

I boot to Vista dvd it goes through a repair but halts at load
drivers....

Its obviously not easy, Google is full of techies with similiar
problems...

I have built many pc's and installed and repaired many operating
systems..... this is beyond me, what people say WILL show doesnt.... not
every BIOS is the same... people seem to forget that. Good boards
Gigabyte etc have superb settings to choose....
current ASUS I am using is awful... very limited options....

Like I say, its easier just to buy another Ide to replace dodgy one..
and forget using Sata altogether.... at least that way I can have two or
more ide's in same pc without any hastle.

Thanks...


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GrimReaperUK

On the Install Windows now page, in the lower left there is a 'repair your
computer' on the next page you will have a start-up repair along with
command prompt etc.
Do the start-up repair

"GrimReaperUK" wrote in message
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Ok... a start up repair??? what is that??.....

I boot to Vista dvd it goes through a repair but halts at load
drivers....

Its obviously not easy, Google is full of techies with similiar
problems...

I have built many pc's and installed and repaired many operating
systems..... this is beyond me, what people say WILL show doesnt.... not
every BIOS is the same... people seem to forget that. Good boards
Gigabyte etc have superb settings to choose....
current ASUS I am using is awful... very limited options....

Like I say, its easier just to buy another Ide to replace dodgy one..
and forget using Sata altogether.... at least that way I can have two or
more ide's in same pc without any hastle.

Thanks...


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GrimReaperUK

Thanks again John... your help is appreciated...

On this link... it shows what I am supposed to do....

'Windows Vista Ultimate - Repair StartUp'
(http://vistaultimate.windowsreinstal...airstartup.htm)

About half way down.... it gets to the blue screen part where it says
Repair Your Computer, on the next screen down , is where I cant go
furthur.....select an operating system....in that area mine is
blank......

I only have the Load Drivers or Next tab to press....

On that diagram, they are assuming you can access the C Drive... I can
when old IDE is connected... but not when old IDE is disconnected and my
SATA is my C drive, its just not visible...

If I then try to do this with old Ide connected, its not repairing the
drive I want repaired... thus the SATA drive.... I need to be able to
tell system to boot to Sata... unless I am missing something here??.....

Why is it so hard for Vendors to simply make it that if you want to
Migrate drives whether that be IDE to IDE or IDE to SATA or even SATA to
SATA, that they dont supply proper software to do the job in whole....
The seagate Diskwizard software has trasfered all my drive complete...
and if it was an IDE drive would be booting okay...its simply because
its a SATA drive ,that it is not being found unless Old Ide is left in,
lots of people are having the same problem as me...

Until I can get past that "select an operating system to repair" page,
I wont be able to then get to the Start up repair tabs shown a few
pictures down....

Wouldnt be so bad if Vista booted quicker... but after each failed
attempt , I have wasted 4 hours of time just on trying different
options.... it may look pretty and have some fancy items, but its so
much more unpleasant to work with....than XP Pro.


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GrimReaperUK

Just off to see if..... "according to Motherboard book... the Serial ATA
RAID onboard is VT8237R Southbridge"...... drivers with the same name
are on the Disc....and if so , if they will load at the screen you
mention.... here is hoping.....will post back if successful or not...


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GrimReaperUK

Well after hours of reading and posting to ViaArena and Asus Forums, I
have resigned myself to the fact that even though my motherboard was
bought brand new not 2 weeks ago..... to replace a faulty
Motherboard.... it is no longer supported by either Via or Asus.

So It looks like my first thoughts were correct... just stick to IDE
and this Motherboard and Chipset will run Vista 64 just fine....
Try using Sata and your knackered as there are no updated drivers for
it... the last drivers they produced were for WINXP 64...according to
their websites, and none of the drivers they "claim" are for Vista
work... not on mine anyway.

Now I have to hope Microsoft allow me to once again ... re-activate
another Hard drive when I do get replacement IDE...to replace this
SATA...

I am starting to think I would have been better off paying over the top
prices and buying a purpose built PC direct from a PC retailer...

Reality is of course... I want to keep my other components that I have
spent £££'s on... ie sound card and graphics card... which only fit
older AGP boards...and work perfectly when everything else does.
Have to say these big Computer companies dont seem to be very Recycling
aware.... if they made more things compatible, a lot less would end up
in Landfill sites......
Of course that will never happen, its all about greed and being "the
first" or the "best"... hmmm... shame thats not first or best for the
consumer.....

Cheers John for your help.... at least I knew I was doing everything as
I should have been, was starting to question myself...


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GrimReaperUK

You are way too far but since you won't follow my instructions, good luck.


"GrimReaperUK" wrote in message
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Thanks again John... your help is appreciated...

On this link... it shows what I am supposed to do....

'Windows Vista Ultimate - Repair StartUp'
(http://vistaultimate.windowsreinstal...airstartup.htm)

About half way down.... it gets to the blue screen part where it says
Repair Your Computer, on the next screen down , is where I cant go
furthur.....select an operating system....in that area mine is
blank......

I only have the Load Drivers or Next tab to press....

On that diagram, they are assuming you can access the C Drive... I can
when old IDE is connected... but not when old IDE is disconnected and my
SATA is my C drive, its just not visible...

If I then try to do this with old Ide connected, its not repairing the
drive I want repaired... thus the SATA drive.... I need to be able to
tell system to boot to Sata... unless I am missing something here??.....

Why is it so hard for Vendors to simply make it that if you want to
Migrate drives whether that be IDE to IDE or IDE to SATA or even SATA to
SATA, that they dont supply proper software to do the job in whole....
The seagate Diskwizard software has trasfered all my drive complete...
and if it was an IDE drive would be booting okay...its simply because
its a SATA drive ,that it is not being found unless Old Ide is left in,
lots of people are having the same problem as me...

Until I can get past that "select an operating system to repair" page,
I wont be able to then get to the Start up repair tabs shown a few
pictures down....

Wouldnt be so bad if Vista booted quicker... but after each failed
attempt , I have wasted 4 hours of time just on trying different
options.... it may look pretty and have some fancy items, but its so
much more unpleasant to work with....than XP Pro.


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GrimReaperUK