A Windows Vista forum. Vista Banter

Welcome to Vista Banter.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to ask questions and reply to others posts, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Go Back   Home » Vista Banter forum » Microsoft Windows Vista » Networking with Windows Vista
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Networking with Windows Vista Networking issues and questions with Windows Vista. (microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing)

Network between XP & Vista



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old March 31st 08, 11:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
marklouca
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Network between XP & Vista

Hello,
I hope you can help me. I am a novice with computers and am having problems
setting up a home network. My desktop is running XP and is cabled to a
Netgear wireless router. My wireless laptop is running vista. I can access
the internet without any problems on my laptop through the router, but can't
connect to the desktop. It would come in handy to access files, but the main
reason is i want to use the printer that is connected to the desktop.
My router does not have a USB, or flash port.
During my fumblings I have had the laptop appear on the desktop and vice
versa in workgroup computers, but I can,t access the computer once it appears.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you could use little words that
would be even better.
Thanks a lot.......Mark.
  #2 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 03:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
FirstBee[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Network between XP & Vista


The first thing you need to do is download and install the LLTD
Responder component. This patch allows XP and Vista computers to
properly see each other on a network.

go to this link:

_'Microsoft_Corporation' (http://tinyurl.com/25tvod)_
__
__
Also, ensure File and Print Sharing are enabled in Windows Firewall.


--
FirstBee
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com

  #3 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 03:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)[_607_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Network between XP & Vista

Sounds like permission issue. You may want to create the same username and
password on both computers. Or this search result may help.

Vista Permission IssuesCan I assume the external drive used to be connecting
to other computer and you just re-connect it the the Vista? Check the
permission using this command: . ...
www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"marklouca" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I hope you can help me. I am a novice with computers and am having
problems
setting up a home network. My desktop is running XP and is cabled to a
Netgear wireless router. My wireless laptop is running vista. I can access
the internet without any problems on my laptop through the router, but
can't
connect to the desktop. It would come in handy to access files, but the
main
reason is i want to use the printer that is connected to the desktop.
My router does not have a USB, or flash port.
During my fumblings I have had the laptop appear on the desktop and vice
versa in workgroup computers, but I can,t access the computer once it
appears.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you could use little words that
would be even better.
Thanks a lot.......Mark.


  #4 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 06:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,685
Default Network between XP & Vista

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords(they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"marklouca" wrote:

Hello,
I hope you can help me. I am a novice with computers and am having problems
setting up a home network. My desktop is running XP and is cabled to a
Netgear wireless router. My wireless laptop is running vista. I can access
the internet without any problems on my laptop through the router, but can't
connect to the desktop. It would come in handy to access files, but the main
reason is i want to use the printer that is connected to the desktop.
My router does not have a USB, or flash port.
During my fumblings I have had the laptop appear on the desktop and vice
versa in workgroup computers, but I can,t access the computer once it appears.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you could use little words that
would be even better.
Thanks a lot.......Mark.

  #5 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Steve Winograd
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 145
Default Network between XP & Vista

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:07:30 +0100, FirstBee
wrote:

The first thing you need to do is download and install the LLTD
Responder component. This patch allows XP and Vista computers to
properly see each other on a network.

go to this link:

_'Microsoft_Corporation' (http://tinyurl.com/25tvod)_
__
__
Also, ensure File and Print Sharing are enabled in Windows Firewall.


The LLTD Responder is not necessary. Vista and XP can share files
without it. You should be able to see the XP computer from the Vista
computer in either of these ways, without installing the LLTP
Responder:

1. Click Start Network

or:

2. Type the XP computer's name in the Start "Start Search" box in
this form:

\\computer

The only purpose of the LLTD Responder on XP is to allow the XP
computer to appear in Vista's "Network Map".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
  #6 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 06:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Steve Winograd
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 145
Default Network between XP & Vista

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:31:00 -0700, Mick Murphy
wrote:

[snip]
Also, run the XPs Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your New Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.


I assume that you mean XP's "Network Setup Wizard". I don't see
anything called "Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard" on XP.

In my experience, it's never necessary to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard. You can make all of the initial network settings without it,
and running the Wizard more than once doesn't accomplish anything.

Please describe exactly what you think the Wizard will do if you run
it again.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
  #7 (permalink)  
Old April 1st 08, 08:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,685
Default Network between XP & Vista

That termimologoly was to cover "Set up a Home or Small Office Network".

I thought people would understand that. and peoople here have thanked me
for that info.

It is quite simple with the Network wizard, and it is not what I think it
might do, it is what it DOES do.

I have found that to share files from XP to vista, it is a cinch when you
run the XP's wizard again, after vista joins an existing Network..

It only takes a moment, and it works!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Steve Winograd" wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:31:00 -0700, Mick Murphy
wrote:

[snip]
Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.


I assume that you mean XP's "Network Setup Wizard". I don't see
anything called "Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard" on XP.

In my experience, it's never necessary to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard. You can make all of the initial network settings without it,
and running the Wizard more than once doesn't accomplish anything.

Please describe exactly what you think the Wizard will do if you run
it again.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

  #8 (permalink)  
Old April 2nd 08, 11:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Steve Winograd
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 145
Default Network between XP & Vista

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:53:09 -0700, Mick Murphy
wrote:
[snip]
Also, run the XPs Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your New Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.


I assume that you mean XP's "Network Setup Wizard". I don't see
anything called "Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard" on XP.

In my experience, it's never necessary to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard. You can make all of the initial network settings without it,
and running the Wizard more than once doesn't accomplish anything.

Please describe exactly what you think the Wizard will do if you run
it again.


That termimologoly was to cover "Set up a Home or Small Office Network".

I thought people would understand that. and peoople here have thanked me
for that info.

It is quite simple with the Network wizard, and it is not what I think it
might do, it is what it DOES do.

I have found that to share files from XP to vista, it is a cinch when you
run the XP's wizard again, after vista joins an existing Network..

It only takes a moment, and it works!


To avoid confusing people who ask for help, I believe in using
accurate terminology and giving technically correct information when
replying to questions in a news group.

You can run the Network Setup Wizard by clicking Start All Programs
Accessories Communications Network Setup Wizard, or (as you

implied) by clicking "Set up a home or small office network" in My
Network Places.

Yes, it's simple to run the Wizard, and it's OK to run it. However,
in my opinion, telling people to run the Network Setup Wizard again in
order to fix a networking problem is misleading. Once you've run the
Wizard the first time, there's no reason to run it again. It doesn't
do anything new after the first run. It doesn't do anything to "add"
another computer to a network. It has no effect on whether XP can see
another computer and access its shared resources.

XP and Vista network with each other and share files and printers just
fine without ever running the Network Setup Wizard.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
  #9 (permalink)  
Old April 2nd 08, 08:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,685
Default Network between XP & Vista

OK Steve; you totally object to my advice the Wizard as being unneccesary.
..
If your advice is 100% correct, I'll gladly drop that part rerun Wizard
of my advice.

Cheers.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Steve Winograd" wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:53:09 -0700, Mick Murphy
wrote:
[snip]
Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

I assume that you mean XP's "Network Setup Wizard". I don't see
anything called "Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard" on XP.

In my experience, it's never necessary to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard. You can make all of the initial network settings without it,
and running the Wizard more than once doesn't accomplish anything.

Please describe exactly what you think the Wizard will do if you run
it again.


That termimologoly was to cover "Set up a Home or Small Office Network".

I thought people would understand that. and peoople here have thanked me
for that info.

It is quite simple with the Network wizard, and it is not what I think it
might do, it is what it DOES do.

I have found that to share files from XP to vista, it is a cinch when you
run the XP's wizard again, after vista joins an existing Network..

It only takes a moment, and it works!


To avoid confusing people who ask for help, I believe in using
accurate terminology and giving technically correct information when
replying to questions in a news group.

You can run the Network Setup Wizard by clicking Start All Programs
Accessories Communications Network Setup Wizard, or (as you

implied) by clicking "Set up a home or small office network" in My
Network Places.

Yes, it's simple to run the Wizard, and it's OK to run it. However,
in my opinion, telling people to run the Network Setup Wizard again in
order to fix a networking problem is misleading. Once you've run the
Wizard the first time, there's no reason to run it again. It doesn't
do anything new after the first run. It doesn't do anything to "add"
another computer to a network. It has no effect on whether XP can see
another computer and access its shared resources.

XP and Vista network with each other and share files and printers just
fine without ever running the Network Setup Wizard.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

  #10 (permalink)  
Old April 3rd 08, 12:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
NGrant.com
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Network between XP & Vista

Hi Mick

I have tried this solution and I am still getting the "Logon unsuccessfull"
when I attempt to map a drive to the XP machine from my Vista Business laptop.

I can now see the shares on the XP PCs from the Vista Bus. Laptop, I can
"see" all the XP machines on the Vista Business Laptop.

BTW - I had to "run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard"
before these PC were "visible" to each other, so I am glad you mentioned this.

Can you suggest any other "things" I can check ???????

TIA

Nigel Grant - ACT - OZ

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords(they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"marklouca" wrote:

Hello,
I hope you can help me. I am a novice with computers and am having problems
setting up a home network. My desktop is running XP and is cabled to a
Netgear wireless router. My wireless laptop is running vista. I can access
the internet without any problems on my laptop through the router, but can't
connect to the desktop. It would come in handy to access files, but the main
reason is i want to use the printer that is connected to the desktop.
My router does not have a USB, or flash port.
During my fumblings I have had the laptop appear on the desktop and vice
versa in workgroup computers, but I can,t access the computer once it appears.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you could use little words that
would be even better.
Thanks a lot.......Mark.

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 06:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright 2004-2012 Vista Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.