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Hello,
Formerly, I had two XPSP2 clients that successfully used a third XPSP2 host to connect to the 'Net. Host used onboard NIC to the cable modem. Two additional NICs connected the clients to the host. I installed Vista x64 with the SP1 update on the host PC. After enabling the host to modem connection as shared, only one client can access the net. Both clients appeared in the connected clients tab to use the shared connection but only one can be selected. Both clients can access the host's shared folders, as well as the host can access both client's shared resources. How can I set up the host and the clients so all three can access the 'Net? Thanks TR |
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Posting the results of ipconfig /all on all computers here may help.
-- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "User" wrote in message news ![]() Hello, Formerly, I had two XPSP2 clients that successfully used a third XPSP2 host to connect to the 'Net. Host used onboard NIC to the cable modem. Two additional NICs connected the clients to the host. I installed Vista x64 with the SP1 update on the host PC. After enabling the host to modem connection as shared, only one client can access the net. Both clients appeared in the connected clients tab to use the shared connection but only one can be selected. Both clients can access the host's shared folders, as well as the host can access both client's shared resources. How can I set up the host and the clients so all three can access the 'Net? Thanks TR |
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Robert,
Previously, my laptop was the PC with good 'Net connection. Using ipconfig /all, I noticed a difference between the PC with the working connection, and the PC without a 'Net connection. The host's NIC was set to 192.168.0.1, with DHCS set to on. The PC (Patty) without working 'Net connection had a strange IP number, and DHCS was off. I think I may have success if I manually set the host cards to 192.168.0.1, and 192.168.0.2. The client's NICs will need TCCP/IP entries to accomodate these numbers. Will this approach work? If yes, what are the XP/SP3 network entries, and what are the x64 Vista/SP1 network entries? THe newest current IPconfig /all output for all three PC has been pasted below. Thanks, TR **************************************** CLIENT 1 **************************************** C:\WINDOWSipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pattyspc Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-1D-3E-AE Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.76.218 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : C:\WINDOWS **************************************** CLIENT 2 **************************************** C:\WINDOWSipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : laptop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Xircom Ethernet Adapter 10/100 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-A4-F4-60-D6 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.175.153 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : C:\WINDOWS **************************************** HOST WITH x64 Vista C:\Users\Pattyipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Desktop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gha.chartermo.net Ethernet adapter Patty: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit E thernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-2A-47-C6-A2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::a546:8a1a:5d9a:d56c%10(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.213.108(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Notebook: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-2A-47-C7-44 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b:9:f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f(Preferred) Site-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fec0::9:f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f%2(Preferred) Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b:9:206e:8dbe:dfb3:7c44(Preferred) Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f%9(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.252.31(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888746 DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-0F-8D-E9-41-00-15-F2-7F-B1-A7 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Charter: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-F2-7F-B1-A7 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::eceb:f39:20cf:377c%8(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 35.242.1.11(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:45:40 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:46:49 PM Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 35.242.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.114.36.6 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 35.272.15.53 35.272.24.53 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.gha.chartermi.net Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{52BF7E13-7751-4BDF-829C-EB8A5E32CD6C} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b::18b0:10b(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 35.272.15.53 35.272.24.53 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\Users\Patty On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:18:20 -0500, "Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" wrote: Posting the results of ipconfig /all on all computers here may help. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "User" wrote in message news ![]() Hello, Formerly, I had two XPSP2 clients that successfully used a third XPSP2 host to connect to the 'Net. Host used onboard NIC to the cable modem. Two additional NICs connected the clients to the host. I installed Vista x64 with the SP1 update on the host PC. After enabling the host to modem connection as shared, only one client can access the net. Both clients appeared in the connected clients tab to use the shared connection but only one can be selected. Both clients can access the host's shared folders, as well as the host can access both client's shared resources. How can I set up the host and the clients so all three can access the 'Net? Thanks TR |
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1. Temporarily re-install XP/SP3 on the host(fom a backup onto a spare drive) and use the "Network Setup Wizard" defaults to enable 'Net connections and ICS among all three computers running XP/SP3. Then, shut down the two XP/SP3 clients and un-hook their cables from the host that was temporarily running XP/SP3. 2. Reboot the host into x64 Vista, and use device manager to uninstall all three NICs from my desktop. Reboot, let Vista re-install all three cards. They show red X's since there are no connections, the two clients and the cable modem are not hooked up. 3. Then connect NIC(1) on the host up to the cable modem for Internet access, which always worked with no problems. 4. Shut down all PCs, connect the clients to the host and boot up the host and both clients with XP/SP3, keeping the previous settings from (1) above. 5. Verify the host can access all shared folders on the clients. 6. On the host, go to "Network and Sharing Center" then to "Manage Connections." Select then right click on the two client's entries, select "Bridge." 7. Get the DNS server numbers from the primary Internet connection. Manually enter them into the settings for both hosts. Shut down all three computers. (This shut-down wasn't really needed) 8. Re-boot all three. You should now have access among all three PCs, and all three will access the 'Net. TR On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:13:03 -0500, User wrote: Hello, Formerly, I had two XPSP2 clients that successfully used a third XPSP2 host to connect to the 'Net. Host used onboard NIC to the cable modem. Two additional NICs connected the clients to the host. I installed Vista x64 with the SP1 update on the host PC. After enabling the host to modem connection as shared, only one client can access the net. Both clients appeared in the connected clients tab to use the shared connection but only one can be selected. Both clients can access the host's shared folders, as well as the host can access both client's shared resources. How can I set up the host and the clients so all three can access the 'Net? Thanks TR |
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When you installed Vista x64 did you
a) enable the ICS service on the Vista host? b) ensure that the ethernet adapter you enabled as the ICS host adapter is manually configured to IP 192.168.0.1? The client ethernet adapters can have any address within that same subnet, either through DHCP or set manually. The ICS host adapter will be the DHCP server and gateway for the client ethernet adapters. The ICS host also provides NAT service for the client PCs but DNS might still have to be set to your ISP's DNS servers, not sure about that one. wrote in message ... Robert, Previously, my laptop was the PC with good 'Net connection. Using ipconfig /all, I noticed a difference between the PC with the working connection, and the PC without a 'Net connection. The host's NIC was set to 192.168.0.1, with DHCS set to on. The PC (Patty) without working 'Net connection had a strange IP number, and DHCS was off. I think I may have success if I manually set the host cards to 192.168.0.1, and 192.168.0.2. The client's NICs will need TCCP/IP entries to accomodate these numbers. Will this approach work? If yes, what are the XP/SP3 network entries, and what are the x64 Vista/SP1 network entries? THe newest current IPconfig /all output for all three PC has been pasted below. Thanks, TR **************************************** CLIENT 1 **************************************** C:\WINDOWSipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pattyspc Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-1D-3E-AE Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.76.218 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : C:\WINDOWS **************************************** CLIENT 2 **************************************** C:\WINDOWSipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : laptop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Xircom Ethernet Adapter 10/100 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-A4-F4-60-D6 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.175.153 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : C:\WINDOWS **************************************** HOST WITH x64 Vista C:\Users\Pattyipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Desktop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gha.chartermo.net Ethernet adapter Patty: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit E thernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-2A-47-C6-A2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::a546:8a1a:5d9a:d56c%10(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.213.108(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Notebook: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-2A-47-C7-44 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b:9:f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f(Preferred) Site-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fec0::9:f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f%2(Preferred) Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b:9:206e:8dbe:dfb3:7c44(Preferred) Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f51a:1d2c:fe2d:fc1f%9(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.252.31(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888746 DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-0F-8D-E9-41-00-15-F2-7F-B1-A7 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Charter: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-F2-7F-B1-A7 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::eceb:f39:20cf:377c%8(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 35.242.1.11(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:45:40 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:46:49 PM Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 35.242.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.114.36.6 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 35.272.15.53 35.272.24.53 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.gha.chartermi.net Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{52BF7E13-7751-4BDF-829C-EB8A5E32CD6C} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gha.chartermi.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:18b0:10b::18b0:10b(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 35.272.15.53 35.272.24.53 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\Users\Patty On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:18:20 -0500, "Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" wrote: Posting the results of ipconfig /all on all computers here may help. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "User" wrote in message news ![]() Hello, Formerly, I had two XPSP2 clients that successfully used a third XPSP2 host to connect to the 'Net. Host used onboard NIC to the cable modem. Two additional NICs connected the clients to the host. I installed Vista x64 with the SP1 update on the host PC. After enabling the host to modem connection as shared, only one client can access the net. Both clients appeared in the connected clients tab to use the shared connection but only one can be selected. Both clients can access the host's shared folders, as well as the host can access both client's shared resources. How can I set up the host and the clients so all three can access the 'Net? Thanks TR |
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Ralf,
Thanks, I got it working. TR On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:24:50 -0400, "RalfG" wrote: When you installed Vista x64 did you a) enable the ICS service on the Vista host? b) ensure that the ethernet adapter you enabled as the ICS host adapter is manually configured to IP 192.168.0.1? The client ethernet adapters can have any address within that same subnet, either through DHCP or set manually. The ICS host adapter will be the DHCP server and gateway for the client ethernet adapters. The ICS host also provides NAT service for the client PCs but DNS might still have to be set to your ISP's DNS servers, not sure about that one. |