"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message
SpikeDelight wrote:

Whenever I try to open any Windows Explorer program like My Computer,
Control Panel, Recycle Bin, etc. the window immediately freezes (though
nothing else on the PC freezes) and goes into a non-responsive state. If I
just do other stuff for about 3-5 minutes the window will eventually open
correctly, but this is obviously a problem. Does anyone know what is causing
this or how to fix it? (Or both?) Thanks so much for your time.

Do you have any network drives mapped to drive letters?

i don't know if you have got the same problem as i recently had but my vista became incredibly slow.
tried everything to track down problem (including posting on this site).
eventually performance analyser in system pointed towards progarams.
go into control panelprogramsstart up programs.
once in windows defender if you find yourself in the same position as i did
you may well find as many as 20 different programs 'enabled' and apaarently
all starting up when the computer. 'disable' a few of them!
My vista has never worked quicker.
Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?

In message simon42
wrote:

Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?

huh?

No, it's not an inherent fault of the OS that the user installed
software that does something the user doesn't want.

"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message simon42
wrote:

Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?

huh?

No, it's not an inherent fault of the OS that the user installed
software that does something the user doesn't want.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, firstly most of the programs in
question were pre-installed by the computer manufacturer in this case Packard
Bell (I don't believe this is particularly unusual for a manufacturer to do
this).
secondly, in my view, as a user I am relying on the good design of the OS to
ensure that good default choices are installed on the system and not ones
that are going to cause operational problems down the line.
Indeed I have installed numerous items of software are you suggesting that I
am responsible for setting automatic start up on each one. That surely is
the responsibility of the operating system?
Further I have heard a lot of criticisms of Vista, one of them being the
slowness of the system.
I am sure there are a lot of other people with the same problem, it
certainly looks inherent to me until proved otherwise.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:36:04 -0700, simon42
wrote:



"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message simon42
wrote:

Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?

huh?

No, it's not an inherent fault of the OS that the user installed
software that does something the user doesn't want.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, firstly most of the programs in
question were pre-installed by the computer manufacturer in this case Packard
Bell (I don't believe this is particularly unusual for a manufacturer to do
this).
secondly, in my view, as a user I am relying on the good design of the OS to
ensure that good default choices are installed on the system and not ones
that are going to cause operational problems down the line.
Indeed I have installed numerous items of software are you suggesting that I
am responsible for setting automatic start up on each one. That surely is
the responsibility of the operating system?

Nope. It's up to each program to offer that feature. The OS is merely
the foundation that all the programs depend upon.

Further I have heard a lot of criticisms of Vista, one of them being the
slowness of the system.

Mine is just as fast as XP... it's running on the same hardware as my
former XP system was.

As to "a lot of cricicisms [sic]", there are millions of Vista
installations world wide. Support forums are usually only frequented
by those with problems... not evereyone is having problems. Not even
close to everyone.

I am sure there are a lot of other people with the same problem, it
certainly looks inherent to me until proved otherwise.

In message simon42
wrote:



"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message simon42
wrote:

Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?

huh?

No, it's not an inherent fault of the OS that the user installed
software that does something the user doesn't want.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, firstly most of the programs in
question were pre-installed by the computer manufacturer in this case Packard
Bell (I don't believe this is particularly unusual for a manufacturer to do
this).

Again, so? How is Vista to know that the machine changed ownership and
magically remove whatever programs the previous owner had installed?

secondly, in my view, as a user I am relying on the good design of the OS to
ensure that good default choices are installed on the system and not ones
that are going to cause operational problems down the line.

How is an OS to know whether an application's functionality is desired
or not? One man's operational problems are another man's desired
functionality.

Look at all the people installing AV software out there, would you
suggest that the OS disable such software due to it's massive
performance impact?

Indeed I have installed numerous items of software are you suggesting that I
am responsible for setting automatic start up on each one.

Is it your computer? If so, then yes, you are responsible for the
software installed on the machine.

That surely is
the responsibility of the operating system?

The operating system's responsibility to do as the user has configured
it to do.

Further I have heard a lot of criticisms of Vista, one of them being the
slowness of the system.

Don't believe everything you hear on the internet.

Nonny wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:36:04 -0700, simon42
wrote:


"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message simon42
wrote:

Is this an inherent fault with vista that it sets programs to auto-start up
as a default?
huh?

No, it's not an inherent fault of the OS that the user installed
software that does something the user doesn't want.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, firstly most of the programs in
question were pre-installed by the computer manufacturer in this case Packard
Bell (I don't believe this is particularly unusual for a manufacturer to do
this).
secondly, in my view, as a user I am relying on the good design of the OS to
ensure that good default choices are installed on the system and not ones
that are going to cause operational problems down the line.
Indeed I have installed numerous items of software are you suggesting that I
am responsible for setting automatic start up on each one. That surely is
the responsibility of the operating system?

Nope. It's up to each program to offer that feature. The OS is merely
the foundation that all the programs depend upon.

Further I have heard a lot of criticisms of Vista, one of them being the
slowness of the system.

Mine is just as fast as XP... it's running on the same hardware as my
former XP system was.

As to "a lot of cricicisms [sic]", there are millions of Vista
installations world wide. Support forums are usually only frequented
by those with problems... not evereyone is having problems. Not even
close to everyone.



And lots with problems don't even know about these newsgroups so why not
get off your fat ass and try helping some of those who do instead of
insulting them? You may think you are smart but you are not, not even
close, and you may think your attitude helps Microsoft but it does not,
not even close, you are almost as bad a Microsoft Advocate as Frank is
but not quite. People come here for help, not insults, and you might at
least respect that.