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Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install



 
 
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Old June 8th 08, 12:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
BrantRaven
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

Hi Everyone,

I decide to re-baseline my desktop home system with a fresh install of
Windows Vista Ultimate. Everything seemed to install correctly. Vista picked
up most of the drivers and I was able to supply the ones it didn’t.

After setup and re-boot, I noticed that the desktop/sidebar appears
reasonably fast, after which there is a delay of about a minute with some
disk activity during which the Network icon in System Tray has a red X. After
about a minute or so, there is a great deal of disk activity (the system
seems to be paging). The delay continues further until finally the yellow
exclamation symbol appears, quickly followed by the globe icon. The system
then functions as normal.

The delay can be anywhere between 1-3 minutes. My motherboard has 3 network
connections; 1 direct connection to my NAS server, 1 to the ADSL modem, 1
wireless.

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Brant
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Old June 8th 08, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)[_909_]
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

For troubleshooting, start the computer with clean boot.
Windows general
How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe Mode
with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs in
Start ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windo...owsgeneral.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I decide to re-baseline my desktop home system with a fresh install of
Windows Vista Ultimate. Everything seemed to install correctly. Vista
picked
up most of the drivers and I was able to supply the ones it didn’t.

After setup and re-boot, I noticed that the desktop/sidebar appears
reasonably fast, after which there is a delay of about a minute with some
disk activity during which the Network icon in System Tray has a red X.
After
about a minute or so, there is a great deal of disk activity (the system
seems to be paging). The delay continues further until finally the yellow
exclamation symbol appears, quickly followed by the globe icon. The system
then functions as normal.

The delay can be anywhere between 1-3 minutes. My motherboard has 3
network
connections; 1 direct connection to my NAS server, 1 to the ADSL modem, 1
wireless.

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.

Brant


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Old June 8th 08, 02:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
BrantRaven
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

With respect Robert, your post isnt excatly helpful. I have started my
machine in safe mode...but this doesnt really allow me to discover the issue
unless I have an general idea of what the issue actually is..which at this
stage I dont.

In safe mode, the machine reacts exactly the same way in does in normal
mode. Again, I totally have no idea what the issue might be.

Brant

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

For troubleshooting, start the computer with clean boot.
Windows general
How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe Mode
with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs in
Start ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windo...owsgeneral.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I decide to re-baseline my desktop home system with a fresh install of
Windows Vista Ultimate. Everything seemed to install correctly. Vista
picked
up most of the drivers and I was able to supply the ones it didn’t.

After setup and re-boot, I noticed that the desktop/sidebar appears
reasonably fast, after which there is a delay of about a minute with some
disk activity during which the Network icon in System Tray has a red X.
After
about a minute or so, there is a great deal of disk activity (the system
seems to be paging). The delay continues further until finally the yellow
exclamation symbol appears, quickly followed by the globe icon. The system
then functions as normal.

The delay can be anywhere between 1-3 minutes. My motherboard has 3
network
connections; 1 direct connection to my NAS server, 1 to the ADSL modem, 1
wireless.

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.

Brant



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Old June 8th 08, 03:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Frankster
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.


What have you done so far?

-Frank

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Old June 8th 08, 03:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
BrantRaven
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

To try and remediate the problem so far I have done a few things. Here is a
short list of what I have tried;

- Looked at the network hardware to ensure that a DHCP IP is being
delivered..it is.
- Looked at the NICs and ensured that power management and similar features
were not enabled
- Disabled wireless. I have read that the issue does happen with wireless.
Didnd work!!
- Disabled firewall. Didnt work!
- Disabled defender real time protection. Didnt work!!
- Disabled the workstation service. Didnt work!!
- Disabled SuperFetch. Didnt work!!

Tried a few other bits and pieces. Nothing seems to work.

Brant



"Frankster" wrote:

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.


What have you done so far?

-Frank


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Old June 8th 08, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Frankster
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install


"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
To try and remediate the problem so far I have done a few things. Here is
a
short list of what I have tried;

- Looked at the network hardware to ensure that a DHCP IP is being
delivered..it is.
- Looked at the NICs and ensured that power management and similar
features
were not enabled
- Disabled wireless. I have read that the issue does happen with wireless.
Didnd work!!
- Disabled firewall. Didnt work!
- Disabled defender real time protection. Didnt work!!
- Disabled the workstation service. Didnt work!!
- Disabled SuperFetch. Didnt work!!

Tried a few other bits and pieces. Nothing seems to work.

Brant



"Frankster" wrote:

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.


What have you done so far?

-Frank



Have you looked in your windows error logs to see if perhaps some other
service is delaying the startup and the network connection comes after that?

Also, if you do a /release /renew, is there any delay?

Just a thought.

-Frank

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Old June 8th 08, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Frankster
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

Also... check Device Manager for errors. You might also want to use Device
Manager to update your NIC drivers. And maybe your disk controller drivers.
I've seen some occasions where the built-in disk drivers did not properly
identify the drive type/capabilities and installing the drivers from the
vendor's site improved performance.

It could be something other than the network connection itself causing the
delay.

-Frank

"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
To try and remediate the problem so far I have done a few things. Here is
a
short list of what I have tried;

- Looked at the network hardware to ensure that a DHCP IP is being
delivered..it is.
- Looked at the NICs and ensured that power management and similar
features
were not enabled
- Disabled wireless. I have read that the issue does happen with wireless.
Didnd work!!
- Disabled firewall. Didnt work!
- Disabled defender real time protection. Didnt work!!
- Disabled the workstation service. Didnt work!!
- Disabled SuperFetch. Didnt work!!

Tried a few other bits and pieces. Nothing seems to work.

Brant



"Frankster" wrote:

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.


What have you done so far?

-Frank



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Old June 8th 08, 04:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jay Somerset
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:02:00 -0700, BrantRaven
wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I decide to re-baseline my desktop home system with a fresh install of
Windows Vista Ultimate. Everything seemed to install correctly. Vista picked
up most of the drivers and I was able to supply the ones it didn’t.

After setup and re-boot, I noticed that the desktop/sidebar appears
reasonably fast, after which there is a delay of about a minute with some
disk activity during which the Network icon in System Tray has a red X. After
about a minute or so, there is a great deal of disk activity (the system
seems to be paging). The delay continues further until finally the yellow
exclamation symbol appears, quickly followed by the globe icon. The system
then functions as normal.

The delay can be anywhere between 1-3 minutes. My motherboard has 3 network
connections; 1 direct connection to my NAS server, 1 to the ADSL modem, 1
wireless.

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Brant

Let me ask a slightly different question, whose answer might let you
tune your system to be a bit more usefully responsive after booting.

"Is there any way to specify the order in which automatically-started
programs and services are invoked?"


--
Jay (remove dashes for legal email address)
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Old June 8th 08, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
BrantRaven
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install

Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried several of these already but with no
luck at all. There doesnt seem to be anything obvious that is going wrong or
any particular component that is failing. This issue has been reported across
various tech sites and blogs. It seems to be a common problem and while
people have made suggestions for a fix nothing has seemed to solve the
problem.

Currently my system experiences at least a 3 minute delay after reboot.

Brant

"Frankster" wrote:

Also... check Device Manager for errors. You might also want to use Device
Manager to update your NIC drivers. And maybe your disk controller drivers.
I've seen some occasions where the built-in disk drivers did not properly
identify the drive type/capabilities and installing the drivers from the
vendor's site improved performance.

It could be something other than the network connection itself causing the
delay.

-Frank

"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
To try and remediate the problem so far I have done a few things. Here is
a
short list of what I have tried;

- Looked at the network hardware to ensure that a DHCP IP is being
delivered..it is.
- Looked at the NICs and ensured that power management and similar
features
were not enabled
- Disabled wireless. I have read that the issue does happen with wireless.
Didnd work!!
- Disabled firewall. Didnt work!
- Disabled defender real time protection. Didnt work!!
- Disabled the workstation service. Didnt work!!
- Disabled SuperFetch. Didnt work!!

Tried a few other bits and pieces. Nothing seems to work.

Brant



"Frankster" wrote:

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.

What have you done so far?

-Frank




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Old June 8th 08, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
V Green
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Default Delayed network connection on boot - Clean install


"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried several of these already but with no
luck at all. There doesnt seem to be anything obvious that is going wrong or
any particular component that is failing. This issue has been reported across
various tech sites and blogs. It seems to be a common problem and while
people have made suggestions for a fix nothing has seemed to solve the
problem.

Currently my system experiences at least a 3 minute delay after reboot.

Brant


Try running with a fixed IP and see if it clears things up.

If it does, you now at least have a smaller subset of things to look at...


"Frankster" wrote:

Also... check Device Manager for errors. You might also want to use Device
Manager to update your NIC drivers. And maybe your disk controller drivers.
I've seen some occasions where the built-in disk drivers did not properly
identify the drive type/capabilities and installing the drivers from the
vendor's site improved performance.

It could be something other than the network connection itself causing the
delay.

-Frank

"BrantRaven" wrote in message
...
To try and remediate the problem so far I have done a few things. Here is
a
short list of what I have tried;

- Looked at the network hardware to ensure that a DHCP IP is being
delivered..it is.
- Looked at the NICs and ensured that power management and similar
features
were not enabled
- Disabled wireless. I have read that the issue does happen with wireless.
Didnd work!!
- Disabled firewall. Didnt work!
- Disabled defender real time protection. Didnt work!!
- Disabled the workstation service. Didnt work!!
- Disabled SuperFetch. Didnt work!!

Tried a few other bits and pieces. Nothing seems to work.

Brant



"Frankster" wrote:

I have spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this issue, so any help
would
be greatly appreciated.

What have you done so far?

-Frank






 




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