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I am very new to Vista. I have a small home network. The three XP
machines on the network use static IP addresses. One of the XP machines shares a printer. When I open Windows Explorer on the new Vista Business machine and click on Network the only computer listed is the Vista Business machine. Network Discovery is turned on on the Vista machine. The workgroup name is set to WORKGROUP on both the XP and Vista machines. I cannot find any way to search for a computer by entering the computer name or IP address as I can in Explorer on XP. I have no idea what the search box in the upper right corner is supposed to do but it does not work. As soon as I type any character in the box it says "No items match your search." I can ping the XP machine from a command window on the Vista machine. If I do DIR \\COMPUTERNAME\PRINT$ at the command prompt on the Vista machine the directory on the XP machine is listed. I can see the Vista machine in Explorer on the XP machine. What must I do to allow Vista to see the other computers on the network??? Thanks. -- ..Bill. |
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:44:37 -0700, "Bill" wrote:
I am very new to Vista. I have a small home network. The three XP machines on the network use static IP addresses. One of the XP machines shares a printer. When I open Windows Explorer on the new Vista Business machine and click on Network the only computer listed is the Vista Business machine. Network Discovery is turned on on the Vista machine. The workgroup name is set to WORKGROUP on both the XP and Vista machines. I cannot find any way to search for a computer by entering the computer name or IP address as I can in Explorer on XP. I have no idea what the search box in the upper right corner is supposed to do but it does not work. As soon as I type any character in the box it says "No items match your search." I can ping the XP machine from a command window on the Vista machine. If I do DIR \\COMPUTERNAME\PRINT$ at the command prompt on the Vista machine the directory on the XP machine is listed. I can see the Vista machine in Explorer on the XP machine. What must I do to allow Vista to see the other computers on the network??? Thanks. To search for a computer, type its name in the Search box preceded by two backslashes: \\COMPUTERNAME Go to Control Panel Network and Internet Network and Sharing Center. Make sure that Network Discovery and File Sharing are turned on. Configure the network as a private network. If there's a firewall program (Norton, McAfee, etc), configure it to allow access by other computers on the local area network. Note that some antivirus programs have firewall components that have to be configured, such as Norton Antivirus' "Internet Worm Protection". -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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The way I Network XP and Vista!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. Permissions/Share info is there as well. If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their Exceptions are worded in their Firewall) 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is the SAME. In Vista Network and Sharing: Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) File Sharing: ON Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared Docs) Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer. Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!). In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network” OR under Accessories Communications Network Setup Wizard Allow File and Printer Sharing. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Bill" wrote: I am very new to Vista. I have a small home network. The three XP machines on the network use static IP addresses. One of the XP machines shares a printer. When I open Windows Explorer on the new Vista Business machine and click on Network the only computer listed is the Vista Business machine. Network Discovery is turned on on the Vista machine. The workgroup name is set to WORKGROUP on both the XP and Vista machines. I cannot find any way to search for a computer by entering the computer name or IP address as I can in Explorer on XP. I have no idea what the search box in the upper right corner is supposed to do but it does not work. As soon as I type any character in the box it says "No items match your search." I can ping the XP machine from a command window on the Vista machine. If I do DIR \\COMPUTERNAME\PRINT$ at the command prompt on the Vista machine the directory on the XP machine is listed. I can see the Vista machine in Explorer on the XP machine. What must I do to allow Vista to see the other computers on the network??? Thanks. -- ..Bill. |
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Thanks for the reply.
To search for a computer, type its name in the Search box preceded by two backslashes: \\COMPUTERNAME Now that is intuitive, user freindly and discoverable. ![]() Go to Control Panel Network and Internet Network and Sharing Center. Make sure that Network Discovery and File Sharing are turned on. Configure the network as a private network. Network Discovery is on. The network is a private network. If there's a firewall program (Norton, McAfee, etc), configure it to allow access by other computers on the local area network. Note that some antivirus programs have firewall components that have to be configured, such as Norton Antivirus' "Internet Worm Protection". There is no 3rd party firewall or anti-virus program installed. -- ..Bill. |
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Mick Murphy wrote:
I have checked everything in your list. Note that the XP computers can see the Vista machine. My problem is that the Vista machine cannot see _any_ XP machine. This has now happened with two different Vista machines on two different networks (one Vista Home and one Vista Business). Sorry but I do not understand what I am supposed to look at in the article you referred to or what the article has do do with my problem. The article appears to be exclusively about shareing resources on Vista. That is not what I am trying to do. I am trying to get Vista to see shared resources on XP machines. Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!). I do not understand what you mean by "to include Vista in your “New” Network". This is not a new network. I am adding a Vista machine to an existing network of three XP machines. The network, the XP machines, sharing files between the XP machines and sharing printers between the XP machines works perfectly. The problem is solely and exclusively with Vista. I can ping the XP machines from the Vista machine but beyond that Vista cannot see _any_ XP machine on the network. It is really frustrating that Microsoft has managed to make something that was so simple in XP so complex (if I can ever get it to work) in Vista. Thanks for your help. -- ..Bill. |
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:09:14 -0700, "Bill" wrote:
Thanks for the reply. To search for a computer, type its name in the Search box preceded by two backslashes: \\COMPUTERNAME Now that is intuitive, user freindly and discoverable. ![]() Go to Control Panel Network and Internet Network and Sharing Center. Make sure that Network Discovery and File Sharing are turned on. Configure the network as a private network. Network Discovery is on. The network is a private network. If there's a firewall program (Norton, McAfee, etc), configure it to allow access by other computers on the local area network. Note that some antivirus programs have firewall components that have to be configured, such as Norton Antivirus' "Internet Worm Protection". There is no 3rd party firewall or anti-virus program installed. "\\COMPUTERNAME" to refer to a networked computer is hardly intuitive, but that's what Windows has used since the days of Windows 95, and possibly earlier. You didn't say whether File Sharing is turned on. Turn Network Discovery and File Sharing off, then turn them back on. Go to the network connection properties and un-bind "Internet Protocol Version 6". Those steps sometimes get file sharing to work on a stubborn Vista computer. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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Steve Winograd wrote:
"\\COMPUTERNAME" to refer to a networked computer is hardly intuitive, but that's what Windows has used since the days of Windows 95, and possibly earlier. I meant as compared to the Search button in Explorer in XP where all you have to do is click Computer and type the name. You didn't say whether File Sharing is turned on. File sharing and Network Discovery are on. Turn Network Discovery and File Sharing off, then turn them back on. Go to the network connection properties and un-bind "Internet Protocol Version 6". Those steps sometimes get file sharing to work on a stubborn Vista computer. I unchecked IPv6 for the wireless network connection. Then I turned Network Discovery and File sharing off then back on. Then I did a cold boot. When I logged in all of the icons but 4 were gone from my desktop. I logged out and logged in again and the desktop was back. There is only one account on this PC so I know I logged in as the same user both times. Unfortunately, I still cannot see the XP computers on the network. I also turned off Windows Firewall then clicked Start | Network but still cannot see the XP computers on the network. -- ..Bill. |
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I also attempted to download and install the LLTD Responder on one of
the XP machines. It refused to install saying that the SP level was newer than the LLTD update so installation was not necessary. At least that resolves the question about whether the Responder is necessary on XP SP3. -- ..Bill. |
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I also turned Public Folder Sharing on and was able to see and edit
files in Public on the Vista machine from an XP machine. Whatever the problem is it only involves see XP machines from Vista. -- ..Bill. |
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:48:59 -0700, "Bill" wrote:
I also attempted to download and install the LLTD Responder on one of the XP machines. It refused to install saying that the SP level was newer than the LLTD update so installation was not necessary. At least that resolves the question about whether the Responder is necessary on XP SP3. The LLTD Responder isn't necessary on any version of Windows XP. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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