The 3rd party defragges are pretty accurate about how far in the defrag
job it is. If it says 80% finished they are about right. Give us both and
then you won't get threads like this. Don't please one camp and **** off
another.

But as far as MS is concerned, the user is free to buy a third party
product! You see? The standard defragger works just fine, so nobody
actually *needs* to worry about disk fragmentation again. But for those sad
geeks who actually like watching red and blue blocks creeping around on the
screen (and are naive enough to think they mean something), then they can
play about with the products from Paragon, O&O, Diskeeper, et al.

This is the perfect compromise. Nothing's broken, nothing needs fixing.

SteveT

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:49:34 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

The 3rd party defragges are pretty accurate about how far in the defrag
job it is. If it says 80% finished they are about right. Give us both and
then you won't get threads like this. Don't please one camp and **** off
another.

But as far as MS is concerned, the user is free to buy a third party
product! You see? The standard defragger works just fine, so nobody
actually *needs* to worry about disk fragmentation again. But for those sad
geeks who actually like watching red and blue blocks creeping around on the
screen (and are naive enough to think they mean something), then they can
play about with the products from Paragon, O&O, Diskeeper, et al.

Or the fine FREE defragger from AusLogics.

This is the perfect compromise. Nothing's broken, nothing needs fixing.

SteveT

personally i find vistas onboard defragger to be far too slow.....yes
its designed to run in the background but goes on forever & a day.....

i use ''jk defrag'' ..its simle & fast


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PNY 8800GT 512mb

its designed to run in the background but goes on forever & a day.....

That's OK - just let it run for as long as it wants. It's invisible, so who
cares? Meanwhile, you can actually do something useful with your computer
;-)

SteveT

"Steve Thackery" wrote in
:

But as far as MS is concerned, the user is free to buy a third party
product! You see? The standard defragger works just fine, so nobody
actually *needs* to worry about disk fragmentation again. But for
those sad geeks who actually like watching red and blue blocks
creeping around on the screen (and are naive enough to think they mean
something), then they can play about with the products from Paragon,
O&O, Diskeeper, et al.

This is the perfect compromise. Nothing's broken, nothing needs
fixing.

SteveT


I don't watch the blocks, I have a friend who does though, I just want to
know approximately how much time is left in the defrag cycle. And you don't
need to defrag every week so IMO that task setting is wrong and I have
changed mine to once per month and if I uninstall/install software then I
will do a manual defrag. See? We are not all sheep.

Nonny wrote in
:

Or the fine FREE defragger from AusLogics.

Yea, yea, I* kno0w about Auslogic and Defraggler too. Both are free but
both use different layout than the Microsoft one. I just want to use the
one Microsodoft provides and not the other ones. I just want more options
as to how it is run and the feedback it gives. No feedback at all just
sucks.

skunksmash wrote in
:

i use ''jk defrag'' ..its simle & fast



I've used that one too but when you start it just starts defragging all
your drives and I saw no option to choose which drive. Defraggler from the
same peopole who make CCleaner seems to be the best free one to me. You can
even select which files to defrag and it consolidates free space too. The
good thing about that is if I install a new game I can have it defrag just
those newly installed files and don't have to defrag the complete drive to
do it like you would with jk dfrag, auslogics and Microsft's.