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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
You're off by quite a bit. The thread was about AIO devices and their party
software. It had nothing to do with WFS. The removal of fax from less expensive versions of Vista has been covered ad nauseum here and is beyond being a dead horse. I have no idea why you felt the need to beat it yet again in an off topic post. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Steve Smegner" wrote in message ... This thread is about a complaint that Microsoft removed Windows Fax and Scan from Vista Home Premium. My post is spot on because it covers that topic. Your post of: Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third party AIO products. So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error. Is off topic because you claim that Microsoft took nothing away from you and pointed to some 3rd party vendor as the problem. Microsoft DID take away Windows fax and scan from the Vista Home sku's as compared to the XP Home sku's which is what the original poster was complaining about. Pointing the finger at the user for not reading the fine print or to 3rd party AOI products is misleading and false. Even if I install a fax modem (which I tried on my machine) Vista home SKu's will work just fine with the modem for connecting to the Internet. However it is missing the pieces allow faxing to work through that same modem unless you move to Ultimate or a business SKU. Don't chastise people for complaining that Microsoft removed functionality and make you pay a lot more bucks to get it when that is exactly what they did. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Quite well known to everyone here and not the topic of this thread. Exactly what was your point? What did you think you were correcting? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Steve Smegner" wrote in message ... I am wide awake and know of what I speak. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../fax-scan.aspx is pretty clear. I stated I had a fax server and could not use it in Vista Home edition. It had nothing to do with fax modems analog or otherwise. Whenever I try to access the remote fax server (fax print function) from Vista Home I am directed to the Windows Fax and Scan function which is not available in Vista Home. Microsoft has decided that the average home user would not need the capability to scan or fax. Since Enterprise SKU is not available to consumers only the Ultimate Edition is available for the home user to fax and scan. And that requires paying much more than the average price for Vista Home. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Wake up. AIO support has never had anything to do with the Windows Fax module. Everyone knows full well which Vista versions include fax support for standalone fax modems. No need to restate the obvious. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Steve Smegner" wrote in message ... No Russ you have it wrong. "Windows Fax and Scan" functionality is ONLY included in the Enterprise and Ultimate Editions. I worked for MSFt for nearly 10 years. They are monitizing functionality. The functionality is on the disc but unavailable unless you key in a PID that matches an Enterprise or Ultimate SKU. I have a fax server that works just fine on my XP and Vista Ultimate machine. On the laptop I am typing on now I have Vista Home Premium. When I try and use the fax server I get a prompt that fax client software is not installed and do I want to install it. If I click Yes it pops up and tells me some DLL is missing. The option to install the functionality is not available in this SKU. I have to install the Ultimate Edition on this machine before that functionality becomes available. I went through this on my other Vista machines that originally had Home Premium installed. Same error. Same issue. When I entered an Ultimate PID the suddenly the machine would find the missing DLL and install the functionality. This has nothing to do with 3rd party vendor fax products or software. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third party AIO products. So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Donald" wrote in message ... For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the three all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their lack of interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister included) have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support you much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer user. Donald "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
Yes you are right.
I also agree the person who said this is 100% end user error. Yes it was my fault, but not because I did not read the manual word by word when I was paying around 15 hundred for a notebook. It was my fault because I didn't go with Mac! What do you call an OS which leaves one of the ports on your notebook useless? "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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Can anyone recommend some good software that will replace this? I will gladly pay up to $500 to any company for the software. I will not pay to upgrade my Windows when I already have Premium on both my Desktop and Laptop. I will no longer support windows either. I can't wait until Google rolls out their operating system. "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
Russ,
I'll be quite frank with you. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you have VOIP, you can fax with the Windows Fax program. I used to do it all the time, and it worked great. It doesn't matter if it data is carried analog or digital, it has to do with fax interpretation of the "data packets" that are being sent. ~ K "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third party AIO products. So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Donald" wrote in message ... For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the three all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their lack of interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister included) have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support you much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer user. Donald "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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Well you've certainly proven your ability to post insults. Next time try
posting accurate and helpful information. You did neither. Fact remains that WFS requires an analog interface. Nowhere did I make any comment about VOIP. If VOIP can provide a valid analog interface, then it could work with WFS. Analog filters for DSL certainly do. Fact remains that WFS was not designed for and does not support AIO devices or digital interfaces. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Done with Microsoft Because of This" oft.com wrote in message ... Russ, I'll be quite frank with you. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you have VOIP, you can fax with the Windows Fax program. I used to do it all the time, and it worked great. It doesn't matter if it data is carried analog or digital, it has to do with fax interpretation of the "data packets" that are being sent. ~ K "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third party AIO products. So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Donald" wrote in message ... For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the three all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their lack of interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister included) have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support you much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer user. Donald "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
Well you've certainly proven your ability to post insults. Next time try
posting accurate and helpful information. You did neither. Fact remains that WFS requires an analog interface. Nowhere did I make any comment about VOIP. If VOIP can provide a valid analog interface, then it could work with WFS. Analog filters for DSL certainly do. Fact remains that WFS was not designed for and does not support AIO devices or digital interfaces. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Done with Microsoft Because of This" oft.com wrote in message ... Russ, I'll be quite frank with you. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you have VOIP, you can fax with the Windows Fax program. I used to do it all the time, and it worked great. It doesn't matter if it data is carried analog or digital, it has to do with fax interpretation of the "data packets" that are being sent. ~ K "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third party AIO products. So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Donald" wrote in message ... For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the three all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their lack of interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister included) have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support you much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer user. Donald "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
I was surprised by the lack of the fax function in Vista Premium (64 bit). I
purchased a modem that had a 64 bit driver but no faxing software. If you go to tucows.com there is shareware for about $40 that will add this to Vista. I have not yet purchased any of these because I wanted to do more research. There were two programs listed that had compatibilty with the VISTA operating system. Be sure to read the comments, etc before purchasing anything because I noticed some programs that people had purchased that did not work esp. if XP-Pro-64 bit was what they thought would make it compatible and it was not. "Done with Microsoft Because of This" wrote: Can anyone recommend some good software that will replace this? I will gladly pay up to $500 to any company for the software. I will not pay to upgrade my Windows when I already have Premium on both my Desktop and Laptop. I will no longer support windows either. I can't wait until Google rolls out their operating system. "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
I was surprised by the lack of the fax function in Vista Premium (64 bit). I
purchased a modem that had a 64 bit driver but no faxing software. If you go to tucows.com there is shareware for about $40 that will add this to Vista. I have not yet purchased any of these because I wanted to do more research. There were two programs listed that had compatibilty with the VISTA operating system. Be sure to read the comments, etc before purchasing anything because I noticed some programs that people had purchased that did not work esp. if XP-Pro-64 bit was what they thought would make it compatible and it was not. "Done with Microsoft Because of This" wrote: Can anyone recommend some good software that will replace this? I will gladly pay up to $500 to any company for the software. I will not pay to upgrade my Windows when I already have Premium on both my Desktop and Laptop. I will no longer support windows either. I can't wait until Google rolls out their operating system. "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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fax/scan for Vista Home Premium
Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista. I am very disappointed. "Ree" wrote: I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have. Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out' your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!! ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan |
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