Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista. I am very disappointed.

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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wrote in message ...
Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista. I am very disappointed.

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from
the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

It’s still in the Business and Ultimate versions. It wasn't included in
Home versions.

Tom Lake

"
wrote in message ...
Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista. I am very disappointed.

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from
the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

It’s still in the Business and Ultimate versions. It wasn't included in
Home versions.

Tom Lake

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:33:01 -0800,
wrote:

Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista.


They didn't. It was only removed from some editions. It's there in
Business and Ultimate.


I am very disappointed.


Three points:

1. The difference between editions consists of a difference in what
features they contain and what the prices are. Microsoft elected to
remove certain features from some editions because it could therefore
sell them at a lower price. That feature vs. price situation may not
be better for you, but it saves money for most users of Vista Home
Premium, who wouldn't use the feature anyway.

2. When you choose an edition of Windows Vista (or any other version
of Windows), it's *your* job to do the appropriate research and make
your choice based on the differences between the editions and what
features you need or want. Would you buy a particular model of a car
without doing the research to find out how it differed from other
similar models?

3. Despite what I say above, I agree that Microsoft could have done a
better job of making this particular omission clearer. You are not the
first one to have been surprised by this--not by a long shot.




"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:33:01 -0800,
wrote:

Yeah, I didn't know that Microsoft removed the Fax and Scan feature from
Windows Vista.


They didn't. It was only removed from some editions. It's there in
Business and Ultimate.


I am very disappointed.


Three points:

1. The difference between editions consists of a difference in what
features they contain and what the prices are. Microsoft elected to
remove certain features from some editions because it could therefore
sell them at a lower price. That feature vs. price situation may not
be better for you, but it saves money for most users of Vista Home
Premium, who wouldn't use the feature anyway.

2. When you choose an edition of Windows Vista (or any other version
of Windows), it's *your* job to do the appropriate research and make
your choice based on the differences between the editions and what
features you need or want. Would you buy a particular model of a car
without doing the research to find out how it differed from other
similar models?

3. Despite what I say above, I agree that Microsoft could have done a
better job of making this particular omission clearer. You are not the
first one to have been surprised by this--not by a long shot.




"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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Of course those of us who buy PCs with it already loaded doesn't have that
opportunity or choice, so AH jerks don't contribute to the solution - just
mindlessly sound off.


"bjr" wrote:

Another DS who doesn't read the features before he buys the product.

Madhur Patel wrote:
Yes , very rightly said so.

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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Of course those of us who buy PCs with it already loaded doesn't have that
opportunity or choice, so AH jerks don't contribute to the solution - just
mindlessly sound off.


"bjr" wrote:

Another DS who doesn't read the features before he buys the product.

Madhur Patel wrote:
Yes , very rightly said so.

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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I agree. When I bought my PC, Windows Vista Home Premium was installed.
There was no option of going bigger and I assumed it was an upgrade from XP
(and all the others). Then I tried to use the fax. What a joke. I have a
Lexmark X5250 all-in-one with fax software. It crashes. Won't fax. Sucks!
I download ed "V3 Call Center" for free and I managed to make it send faxes
with home premium! Not the total answer but is does work! I think Microsoft
doesn't make enough money so they fix it so if you want what you had it'll
cost ya!

"Steve Smegner" wrote:

I am wide awake and know of what I speak.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../fax-scan.aspx is
pretty clear. I stated I had a fax server and could not use it in Vista Home
edition. It had nothing to do with fax modems analog or otherwise. Whenever I
try to access the remote fax server (fax print function) from Vista Home I am
directed to the Windows Fax and Scan function which is not available in Vista
Home. Microsoft has decided that the average home user would not need the
capability to scan or fax. Since Enterprise SKU is not available to consumers
only the Ultimate Edition is available for the home user to fax and scan. And
that requires paying much more than the average price for Vista Home.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Wake up. AIO support has never had anything to do with the Windows Fax
module. Everyone knows full well which Vista versions include fax support
for standalone fax modems. No need to restate the obvious.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Smegner" wrote in message
...
No Russ you have it wrong. "Windows Fax and Scan" functionality is ONLY
included in the Enterprise and Ultimate Editions. I worked for MSFt for
nearly 10 years. They are monitizing functionality. The functionality is
on
the disc but unavailable unless you key in a PID that matches an
Enterprise
or Ultimate SKU. I have a fax server that works just fine on my XP and
Vista
Ultimate machine. On the laptop I am typing on now I have Vista Home
Premium.
When I try and use the fax server I get a prompt that fax client software
is
not installed and do I want to install it. If I click Yes it pops up and
tells me some DLL is missing. The option to install the functionality is
not
available in this SKU. I have to install the Ultimate Edition on this
machine
before that functionality becomes available. I went through this on my
other
Vista machines that originally had Home Premium installed. Same error.
Same
issue. When I entered an Ultimate PID the suddenly the machine would find
the
missing DLL and install the functionality.

This has nothing to do with 3rd party vendor fax products or software.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was
remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of
Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has
nothing
at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third
party AIO products.
So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you
don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Donald" wrote in message
...
For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the
three
all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their
lack
of
interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file
document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister
included)
have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support
you
much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer
user.

Donald



"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from
the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior
to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not
have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to
'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT
COOL!!!!

----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
follow
this
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then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...i nt_fax_scan

I agree. When I bought my PC, Windows Vista Home Premium was installed.
There was no option of going bigger and I assumed it was an upgrade from XP
(and all the others). Then I tried to use the fax. What a joke. I have a
Lexmark X5250 all-in-one with fax software. It crashes. Won't fax. Sucks!
I download ed "V3 Call Center" for free and I managed to make it send faxes
with home premium! Not the total answer but is does work! I think Microsoft
doesn't make enough money so they fix it so if you want what you had it'll
cost ya!

"Steve Smegner" wrote:

I am wide awake and know of what I speak.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../fax-scan.aspx is
pretty clear. I stated I had a fax server and could not use it in Vista Home
edition. It had nothing to do with fax modems analog or otherwise. Whenever I
try to access the remote fax server (fax print function) from Vista Home I am
directed to the Windows Fax and Scan function which is not available in Vista
Home. Microsoft has decided that the average home user would not need the
capability to scan or fax. Since Enterprise SKU is not available to consumers
only the Ultimate Edition is available for the home user to fax and scan. And
that requires paying much more than the average price for Vista Home.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Wake up. AIO support has never had anything to do with the Windows Fax
module. Everyone knows full well which Vista versions include fax support
for standalone fax modems. No need to restate the obvious.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Smegner" wrote in message
...
No Russ you have it wrong. "Windows Fax and Scan" functionality is ONLY
included in the Enterprise and Ultimate Editions. I worked for MSFt for
nearly 10 years. They are monitizing functionality. The functionality is
on
the disc but unavailable unless you key in a PID that matches an
Enterprise
or Ultimate SKU. I have a fax server that works just fine on my XP and
Vista
Ultimate machine. On the laptop I am typing on now I have Vista Home
Premium.
When I try and use the fax server I get a prompt that fax client software
is
not installed and do I want to install it. If I click Yes it pops up and
tells me some DLL is missing. The option to install the functionality is
not
available in this SKU. I have to install the Ultimate Edition on this
machine
before that functionality becomes available. I went through this on my
other
Vista machines that originally had Home Premium installed. Same error.
Same
issue. When I entered an Ultimate PID the suddenly the machine would find
the
missing DLL and install the functionality.

This has nothing to do with 3rd party vendor fax products or software.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was
remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of
Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has
nothing
at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third
party AIO products.
So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you
don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Donald" wrote in message
...
For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers of the
three
all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for their
lack
of
interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain file
document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & sister
included)
have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and support
you
much longer after taking away a function so basic to every computer
user.

Donald



"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from
the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior
to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not
have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to
'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT
COOL!!!!

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T have been using Micrsoft products since 198, I am fes up of the hassele I
hope Google will como out soon witha s Dos so I acan swich and never spend my
time and money with Microsft

"Ree" wrote:

I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this feature from the
program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this prior to
recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would not have.

Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay to 'dog-out'
your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you. NOT COOL!!!!

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