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System mis-reporting disk usage
rayhorn13 wrote:
Sorry - can you tell I'm new to Usenet? I was JOKING (notice the smiley at the end of the sentence). All you do is copy the URL and paste it into your message. Even if you typed it longhand, it would still come through properly. How do I post a link then? "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: OK - I have the screenshots uploaded to Photobucket: a href="http://s315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/?action=view¤t=DISKSIZE.jpg" target="_blank"img src="http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/DISKSIZE.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/a a href="http://s315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/?action=view¤t=DISKSIZE2.jpg" target="_blank"img src="http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/DISKSIZE2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/a I hope this works. And DO NOT USE HTML ;- "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. "Show Hidden Files and Folders" may not, but "Hide Protected Operating System Files" is unchecked and I have added/included the 10 GB swap file in my totals. Is there a way to attach a screenshot here? I made one and it shows all of the different totals. No screen shots or graphics in Usenet. Use an independent free service and provide a link. "DL" wrote: 'Shadow copy' - see win help PS It depends on the version of Vista as to whether you actual have this option. Also hidden files doesnt show your paging/swap file "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: I am using Windows Vista (32-bit) on my computer. Lately, I have noticed that the reported "used space" on my hard drive (via right-click/properties) keeps rising dramatically while I add very little to my computer. I then made sure that I had turned on options to show system files and hidden OS files so that I could add up the used space. What I found is that all of the files on my computer added together total 44.2 GB, while the usual right-click on the C-drive (selecting Properties) reports that I have used 65.2 GB. I re-checked the math and the folders and still come up with a 21 GB difference - almost 1.5 times the size of what the files/folders add up to. Does anyone have ANY idea what could be happening or why the difference is so large? I am at a loss, but I'm also concerned that this may spell trouble of a different type since it looks like it deals with the OS somehow. Many thanks in advance. It's all in System Restore and Volume Shadow Copy, mostly the former I'd guess. How so? Volume shadow copy? I'm not following... |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
Select, Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, More Options tab,
System Restore and Shadow Copies, CleanUp. -- ~~~~ Hope this helps Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "rayhorn13" wrote in message news Sorry - can you tell I'm new to Usenet? How do I post a link then? "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: OK - I have the screenshots uploaded to Photobucket: a href="http://s315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/?action=view¤t=DISKSIZE.jpg" target="_blank"img src="http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/DISKSIZE.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/a a href="http://s315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/?action=view¤t=DISKSIZE2.jpg" target="_blank"img src="http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll450/rayhorn13/DISKSIZE2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/a I hope this works. And DO NOT USE HTML ;- "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. "Show Hidden Files and Folders" may not, but "Hide Protected Operating System Files" is unchecked and I have added/included the 10 GB swap file in my totals. Is there a way to attach a screenshot here? I made one and it shows all of the different totals. No screen shots or graphics in Usenet. Use an independent free service and provide a link. "DL" wrote: 'Shadow copy' - see win help PS It depends on the version of Vista as to whether you actual have this option. Also hidden files doesnt show your paging/swap file "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: I am using Windows Vista (32-bit) on my computer. Lately, I have noticed that the reported "used space" on my hard drive (via right-click/properties) keeps rising dramatically while I add very little to my computer. I then made sure that I had turned on options to show system files and hidden OS files so that I could add up the used space. What I found is that all of the files on my computer added together total 44.2 GB, while the usual right-click on the C-drive (selecting Properties) reports that I have used 65.2 GB. I re-checked the math and the folders and still come up with a 21 GB difference - almost 1.5 times the size of what the files/folders add up to. Does anyone have ANY idea what could be happening or why the difference is so large? I am at a loss, but I'm also concerned that this may spell trouble of a different type since it looks like it deals with the OS somehow. Many thanks in advance. It's all in System Restore and Volume Shadow Copy, mostly the former I'd guess. How so? Volume shadow copy? I'm not following... |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
Shadow Copy is not included with Home Premium, it is with Ultimate/Business
& Enterprise "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. "Show Hidden Files and Folders" may not, but "Hide Protected Operating System Files" is unchecked and I have added/included the 10 GB swap file in my totals. Is there a way to attach a screenshot here? I made one and it shows all of the different totals. "DL" wrote: 'Shadow copy' - see win help PS It depends on the version of Vista as to whether you actual have this option. Also hidden files doesnt show your paging/swap file "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: I am using Windows Vista (32-bit) on my computer. Lately, I have noticed that the reported "used space" on my hard drive (via right-click/properties) keeps rising dramatically while I add very little to my computer. I then made sure that I had turned on options to show system files and hidden OS files so that I could add up the used space. What I found is that all of the files on my computer added together total 44.2 GB, while the usual right-click on the C-drive (selecting Properties) reports that I have used 65.2 GB. I re-checked the math and the folders and still come up with a 21 GB difference - almost 1.5 times the size of what the files/folders add up to. Does anyone have ANY idea what could be happening or why the difference is so large? I am at a loss, but I'm also concerned that this may spell trouble of a different type since it looks like it deals with the OS somehow. Many thanks in advance. It's all in System Restore and Volume Shadow Copy, mostly the former I'd guess. How so? Volume shadow copy? I'm not following... |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
rayhorn13 wrote:
So, there are no shadow copies to clean up and there is only one backup point on my computer How much space is "missing"?? Where do I look now? Any ideas? 1. Click the start menu 2. Click on All Programs, and then Accessories 3. From the accessories menu, right click on Command Prompt and select “run as administrator” 4. Type “vssadmin list shadowstorage” into the command prompt 5. The results should tell you the amount of storage used and the maximum amount alloted If you’re not happy with those numbers, here’s how to resize them. Keep in mind, you will lose some older system restore points when you do this. 1. Repeat steps 1-3 to get bring up the Command Prompt 2. Type “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=[your hard disk]: /On=[your hard disk]: /MaxSize=[how much space you want to allocate]” For example: “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=2GB” You should get a message saying Successfully resized the shadow copy storage association, and you should have more free space on your hard drive. |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
21 GB is "missing."
I'm confused again, though. Shadow copy is not in Home Premium, right? There wasn't even a 'Shadow Copies' option when I went to System Restore. But when I go through the administrator command prompt & type the command, I get this: Shadow Copy Storage association For volume: (C\\?\Volume{e124ac2a-136b-11dd-a8fb-806e6f6e6963}\ Shadow Copy Storage volume: (C\\?\Volume{e124ac2a-136b-11dd-a8fb-806e6f6e69 63}\ Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 13.442 GB Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 13.945 GB Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 16.113 GB Is this supposed to be there at all since I'm not supposed to have shadow copy as an option? If it is, SHOULD I be happy with those numbers? Finally, none of those numbers account for the 21 GB difference in filespace. "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: So, there are no shadow copies to clean up and there is only one backup point on my computer How much space is "missing"?? Where do I look now? Any ideas? 1. Click the start menu 2. Click on All Programs, and then Accessories 3. From the accessories menu, right click on Command Prompt and select “run as administrator” 4. Type “vssadmin list shadowstorage” into the command prompt 5. The results should tell you the amount of storage used and the maximum amount alloted If you’re not happy with those numbers, here’s how to resize them. Keep in mind, you will lose some older system restore points when you do this. 1. Repeat steps 1-3 to get bring up the Command Prompt 2. Type “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=[your hard disk]: /On=[your hard disk]: /MaxSize=[how much space you want to allocate]” For example: “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=2GB” You should get a message saying Successfully resized the shadow copy storage association, and you should have more free space on your hard drive. |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
rayhorn13 wrote:
21 GB is "missing." I'm confused again, though. Shadow copy is not in Home Premium, right? What I gave you will show everything on your system that belongs to System Restore. Everything. Set the "maxsize" to what you want (can't be less than 300mb) but remember that each restore point needs over a gig of space. There wasn't even a 'Shadow Copies' option when I went to System Restore. But when I go through the administrator command prompt & type the command, I get this: Shadow Copy Storage association For volume: (C\\?\Volume{e124ac2a-136b-11dd-a8fb-806e6f6e6963}\ Shadow Copy Storage volume: (C\\?\Volume{e124ac2a-136b-11dd-a8fb-806e6f6e69 63}\ Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 13.442 GB Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 13.945 GB Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 16.113 GB Is this supposed to be there at all since I'm not supposed to have shadow copy as an option? If it is, SHOULD I be happy with those numbers? Finally, none of those numbers account for the 21 GB difference in filespace. "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: So, there are no shadow copies to clean up and there is only one backup point on my computer How much space is "missing"?? Where do I look now? Any ideas? 1. Click the start menu 2. Click on All Programs, and then Accessories 3. From the accessories menu, right click on Command Prompt and select “run as administrator” 4. Type “vssadmin list shadowstorage” into the command prompt 5. The results should tell you the amount of storage used and the maximum amount alloted If you’re not happy with those numbers, here’s how to resize them. Keep in mind, you will lose some older system restore points when you do this. 1. Repeat steps 1-3 to get bring up the Command Prompt 2. Type “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=[your hard disk]: /On=[your hard disk]: /MaxSize=[how much space you want to allocate]” For example: “vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=2GB” You should get a message saying Successfully resized the shadow copy storage association, and you should have more free space on your hard drive. |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
DL
Research confirms it is as you say. Thanks for correcting my misunderstanding. ~~~~ Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DL" address@invalid wrote in message ... Shadow Copy is not included with Home Premium, it is with Ultimate/Business & Enterprise "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. "Show Hidden Files and Folders" may not, but "Hide Protected Operating System Files" is unchecked and I have added/included the 10 GB swap file in my totals. Is there a way to attach a screenshot here? I made one and it shows all of the different totals. "DL" wrote: 'Shadow copy' - see win help PS It depends on the version of Vista as to whether you actual have this option. Also hidden files doesnt show your paging/swap file "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... "Nonny" wrote: rayhorn13 wrote: I am using Windows Vista (32-bit) on my computer. Lately, I have noticed that the reported "used space" on my hard drive (via right-click/properties) keeps rising dramatically while I add very little to my computer. I then made sure that I had turned on options to show system files and hidden OS files so that I could add up the used space. What I found is that all of the files on my computer added together total 44.2 GB, while the usual right-click on the C-drive (selecting Properties) reports that I have used 65.2 GB. I re-checked the math and the folders and still come up with a 21 GB difference - almost 1.5 times the size of what the files/folders add up to. Does anyone have ANY idea what could be happening or why the difference is so large? I am at a loss, but I'm also concerned that this may spell trouble of a different type since it looks like it deals with the OS somehow. Many thanks in advance. It's all in System Restore and Volume Shadow Copy, mostly the former I'd guess. How so? Volume shadow copy? I'm not following... |
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System mis-reporting disk usage
Hi, rayhorn13.
Sorry to come late to this old thread, but I just now spotted it. You probably have found your answer by now (or given up on it), but just in case... In the Administrator:Command Prompt window, use the good ol' DOS command Dir with a couple of switches. (As always in a "DOS" window, enter the command followed by /? to see a mini-help file of the switches and parameters available with it: dir /? ) To start at the top: Dir C:\ /s /a Now go get a cup of coffee while thousands (yep!) of filenames/foldernames scroll up your screen! (Ctrl+C will interrupt the listing if you don't have time for coffee just now.) The C:\ makes the Directory listing start in the Root (\) of Drive C:. Since no filename is specified, it will list all files in that folder except those with Attributes set (such as Hidden or System). The /a shows All files, even the ones with those Attributes. And the /s includes files in all subfolders under the starting folder - the whole tree. If a file is in Drive C:, this command will show it, no matter which folder it is in and no matter whether it is hidden! That display actually isn't much use except that when it finally does get to the end, it will tell you - to the byte! - how much all your files add up to. That doesn't say how much "space on disk" is used, because it will only show 1 byte for a 1-byte file, but the file probably uses a whole 4 KB cluster. And every file has, on average, 1/2 cluster (2 KB) of wasted space. So 1,000 random-sized files will probably waste 2 MB of space. A disk full of a few big files doesn't waste much, but one with millions of small files will waste a lot! Now, try this again, but this time: Dir C:\ /s /a /p This will do the same as before, but the /p will make it pause after each page. For a long listing, this gets mighty tedious, but it comes in handy to see subtotals by folder and to zero in on likely suspects. If you find that the C:\Whopper folder has over 10 GB of files in it, you can try simply: C:\Whopper If that doesn’t show all those files, then use one or more of the other switches: C:\Whopper /a C:\Whopper /s /p I'm sure you can figure out the rest of this. ;^} Please post back with what you find out. That feedback should help us help the next person with a similar question. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) "rayhorn13" wrote in message ... I am using Windows Vista (32-bit) on my computer. Lately, I have noticed that the reported "used space" on my hard drive (via right-click/properties) keeps rising dramatically while I add very little to my computer. I then made sure that I had turned on options to show system files and hidden OS files so that I could add up the used space. What I found is that all of the files on my computer added together total 44.2 GB, while the usual right-click on the C-drive (selecting Properties) reports that I have used 65.2 GB. I re-checked the math and the folders and still come up with a 21 GB difference - almost 1.5 times the size of what the files/folders add up to. Does anyone have ANY idea what could be happening or why the difference is so large? I am at a loss, but I'm also concerned that this may spell trouble of a different type since it looks like it deals with the OS somehow. Many thanks in advance. |
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