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I have several questions on this subject:
1) What are the optimum settings to scan old photos? Using the default settings has produced some uneven results. Any suggestions on how to logically proceed with the pixals and resolution to obtain the best copy possible? 2) To make adjustmentss to the photos, such as removing red eye or color enhancement are the tools on "Windows Picture Gallery" sufficient to the task or would an investment in "Photo Shop" be worthwhile? I do not plan to "add" things to the photos. 3) How many photos can one transfer onto a dvd? Please advise and breakdown the number depending on resolution of the photos, and if one wants to add music to the mix.-- Obviously, I realize no one can pinpoint the "exact" number, but an average range would be terrific. Such as 450 photos with music, 1000 photos wihout. Looking forward to receiving your imput! Irulan, North Carolina |
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Irulan wrote:
I have several questions on this subject: 1) What are the optimum settings to scan old photos? Using the default settings has produced some uneven results. Any suggestions on how to logically proceed with the pixals and resolution to obtain the best copy possible? =================================== If you could describe the "uneven results* it would be easier to answer the question. In many cases the variations in scans is due to the size of the original picture and the focal quality of the original picture. Personally I find that 300 DPI is adequate for scanning the old snapshot collection. In most cases the scans look better than the originals... especially after editing. You may find the following site to be quite useful for info on scanning: A Few Scanning Tips http://www.scantips.com/ ==================================== 2) To make adjustmentss to the photos, such as removing red eye or color enhancement are the tools on "Windows Picture Gallery" sufficient to the task or would an investment in "Photo Shop" be worthwhile? I do not plan to "add" things to the photos. ===================================== I would suggest that you have a good image editor...PhotoShop would certainly be adequate. The task of scanning and archiving a large collection of family pictures can be a time consuming job and it doesn't seem logical to skimp on the software. You will find damaged or otherwise less than perfect pictures in your collection and a good image editor can work magic. As for a free program...I find Picasa to be quite useful: Picasa http://picasa.google.com/ ====================================== 3) How many photos can one transfer onto a dvd? Please advise and breakdown the number depending on resolution of the photos, and if one wants to add music to the mix.-- Obviously, I realize no one can pinpoint the "exact" number, but an average range would be terrific. Such as 450 photos with music, 1000 photos wihout. Looking forward to receiving your imput! Irulan, North Carolina ======================================= This is just simple math...you know the DVD has 4.7 GB of space and you just add up the file size of your pictures and music and there is your limit. Personally I save my scans in the .png format and the average file size is 10 MB to 20 MB each. The file sizes would be much less in the .jpg format but for archival originals I prefer a lossless format. -- John Inzer |
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Hi John:
Thank you for some very useful information. My definition of uneven results is that when scanned on auto, the scanning program adds too much red to the basic picture. Using the color tools on either the HP Program or the Picture Gallery really do not let me fine tune the color to the degree I would like, too much shift to the green or blue scale. Would the image editor add more refinement to this process? I will try the 300. Did experiment with the 600 and the 1200, but could find no discernible improvement (to my eye) with the end product. Again, thanks for time in answering my questions! -- Irulan, North Carolina "John Inzer" wrote: Irulan wrote: I have several questions on this subject: 1) What are the optimum settings to scan old photos? Using the default settings has produced some uneven results. Any suggestions on how to logically proceed with the pixals and resolution to obtain the best copy possible? =================================== If you could describe the "uneven results* it would be easier to answer the question. In many cases the variations in scans is due to the size of the original picture and the focal quality of the original picture. Personally I find that 300 DPI is adequate for scanning the old snapshot collection. In most cases the scans look better than the originals... especially after editing. You may find the following site to be quite useful for info on scanning: A Few Scanning Tips http://www.scantips.com/ ==================================== 2) To make adjustmentss to the photos, such as removing red eye or color enhancement are the tools on "Windows Picture Gallery" sufficient to the task or would an investment in "Photo Shop" be worthwhile? I do not plan to "add" things to the photos. ===================================== I would suggest that you have a good image editor...PhotoShop would certainly be adequate. The task of scanning and archiving a large collection of family pictures can be a time consuming job and it doesn't seem logical to skimp on the software. You will find damaged or otherwise less than perfect pictures in your collection and a good image editor can work magic. As for a free program...I find Picasa to be quite useful: Picasa http://picasa.google.com/ ====================================== 3) How many photos can one transfer onto a dvd? Please advise and breakdown the number depending on resolution of the photos, and if one wants to add music to the mix.-- Obviously, I realize no one can pinpoint the "exact" number, but an average range would be terrific. Such as 450 photos with music, 1000 photos wihout. Looking forward to receiving your imput! Irulan, North Carolina ======================================= This is just simple math...you know the DVD has 4.7 GB of space and you just add up the file size of your pictures and music and there is your limit. Personally I save my scans in the .png format and the average file size is 10 MB to 20 MB each. The file sizes would be much less in the .jpg format but for archival originals I prefer a lossless format. -- John Inzer |
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Irulan wrote:
Hi John: Thank you for some very useful information. My definition of uneven results is that when scanned on auto, the scanning program adds too much red to the basic picture. ============================== Thanks for the additional info. I never scan on Auto...one of the main reasons is edge detection...especially with images that are light colors at the edges or the old snapshots that have the white borders. Using the advanced settings you can left click/drag a box around the exact area you wish to scan. (Even just part of a picture like someones face)...Takes a little longer but I get better more useful scans. As for color...you may have a problem with a color profile. I've found it best to remove them all...maybe the following article will help explain. (939395) When you view an image in Windows Photo Gallery on a Windows Vista-based computer, the image is yellow http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939395/en-us One thing you might try is to print a couple of your scans on photo paper and compare the unedited scans to the prints...if the prints look better than what you see on screen...you might try adjusting your brightness and contrast to try and achieve the same look. ============================== Using the color tools on either the HP Program or the Picture Gallery really do not let me fine tune the color to the degree I would like, too much shift to the green or blue scale. Would the image editor add more refinement to this process? ============================== Yes, an advanced image editor would provide much more latitude in your color adjustments. And the basic quick fixes would be better also. ============================== I will try the 300. Did experiment with the 600 and the 1200, but could find no discernible improvement (to my eye) with the end product. Again, thanks for time in answering my questions! ============================== 600 DPI would not be unreasonable but as I previously stated...300 DPI has been adequate for me. If you were scanning slides or negatives the 1200 DPI might be something to consider but not for snapshots. What it will do is produce extremely large memory hogging files. - John Inzer |
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John: Thanks again, will try all of your suggestions. As I have over 35
albums to scan and burn, doing it with the optimum tools will be essential! -- Irulan, North Carolina "John Inzer" wrote: Irulan wrote: Hi John: Thank you for some very useful information. My definition of uneven results is that when scanned on auto, the scanning program adds too much red to the basic picture. ============================== Thanks for the additional info. I never scan on Auto...one of the main reasons is edge detection...especially with images that are light colors at the edges or the old snapshots that have the white borders. Using the advanced settings you can left click/drag a box around the exact area you wish to scan. (Even just part of a picture like someones face)...Takes a little longer but I get better more useful scans. As for color...you may have a problem with a color profile. I've found it best to remove them all...maybe the following article will help explain. (939395) When you view an image in Windows Photo Gallery on a Windows Vista-based computer, the image is yellow http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939395/en-us One thing you might try is to print a couple of your scans on photo paper and compare the unedited scans to the prints...if the prints look better than what you see on screen...you might try adjusting your brightness and contrast to try and achieve the same look. ============================== Using the color tools on either the HP Program or the Picture Gallery really do not let me fine tune the color to the degree I would like, too much shift to the green or blue scale. Would the image editor add more refinement to this process? ============================== Yes, an advanced image editor would provide much more latitude in your color adjustments. And the basic quick fixes would be better also. ============================== I will try the 300. Did experiment with the 600 and the 1200, but could find no discernible improvement (to my eye) with the end product. Again, thanks for time in answering my questions! ============================== 600 DPI would not be unreasonable but as I previously stated...300 DPI has been adequate for me. If you were scanning slides or negatives the 1200 DPI might be something to consider but not for snapshots. What it will do is produce extremely large memory hogging files. - John Inzer |
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Irulan wrote:
John: Thanks again, will try all of your suggestions. As I have over 35 albums to scan and burn, doing it with the optimum tools will be essential! =============================== You're welcome. This is a complex subject and I doubt that you will find all the answers in a newsgroup message but hopefully you are off to a good start. Let us know if you require further assistance. -- John Inzer |
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Irulan;776546 Wrote: John: Thanks again, will try all of your suggestions. As I have over 35 albums to scan and burn, doing it with the optimum tools will be essential! -- Irulan, North Carolina "John Inzer" wrote: Irulan wrote: Hi John: Thank you for some very useful information. My definition of uneven results is that when scanned on auto, the scanning program adds too much red to the basic picture. ============================== Thanks for the additional info. I never scan on Auto...one of the main reasons is edge detection...especially with images that are light colors at the edges or the old snapshots that have the white borders. Using the advanced settings you can left click/drag a box around the exact area you wish to scan. (Even just part of a picture like someones face)...Takes a little longer but I get better more useful scans. As for color...you may have a problem with a color profile. I've found it best to remove them all...maybe the following article will help explain. (939395) When you view an image in Windows Photo Gallery on a Windows Vista-based computer, the image is yellow 'When you view an image in Windows Photo Gallery on a Windows Vista-based computer, the image is yellow' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939395/en-us) One thing you might try is to print a couple of your scans on photo paper and compare the unedited scans to the prints...if the prints look better than what you see on screen...you might try adjusting your brightness and contrast to try and achieve the same look. ============================== ============================== Yes, an advanced image editor would provide much more latitude in your color adjustments. And the basic quick fixes would be better also. ============================== I will try the 300. Did experiment with the 600 and the 1200, but could find no discernible improvement (to my eye) with the end product. Again, thanks for time in answering my questions! ============================== 600 DPI would not be unreasonable but as I previously stated...300 DPI has been adequate for me. If you were scanning slides or negatives the 1200 DPI might be something to consider but not for snapshots. What it will do is produce extremely large memory hogging files. - John Inzer Just back John up here.... 300dpi is a good norm especially if have no intentions of printing large enlargments. There are also some good websites that explain colour (or color) management in Vista if you can be bothered reading a fair bit of the excellent info about and some of the shortcoming of LCD monitors -- Clevo ___________________________ Windows Vista Home Premium x64 + SP1 ASUS P5K MB Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz 4GB RAM (DDR2) NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS Realtek HD onboard sound Helpful links: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...91033.mspx#EEE |