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Vista & indexing network drives
According to Vista's help system in the final release, Vista does not index
the contents of network shares. It also doesn't appear to ask for help from Windows Server 2003 indexing service, when those files are indexed on the server. I have not been able to discover a way to do a fast search through the full content of files in a folder on a server. Is this really true? If so, this is a huge disappointment and a big step backwards from Windows XP with Windows Desktop Search. I have many clients running Small Business Server, with a central repository of company files, and My Document folders redirected onto the server. Vista will index offline files, I assume, but I can't run Company folders in offline mode on every workstation. These are small businesses that shouldn't have to buy third party search appliances. I have to be missing something. How can I index the contents of network folders in Vista? |
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Vista & indexing network drives
I've been trying to find information online. As near as I can tell, indexing
network shares was removed from Vista at some point during the beta/RC cycle. One comment by a developer suggests that the reason is that it doesn't scale well for hundreds of users to be reaching into the same folders continuously. That may be true, but I work with businesses that have 15-20 users who immediately realized the power of finding company documents instantly with Windows Desktop Search. This single omission will cause them to postpone or avoid Vista. It makes me wonder if Microsoft's promotional language is out of date. For example, on the Vista web site: "Windows Vista helps organizations effectively manage complex data collections and provides new search capabilities so that users can quickly find almost anything on their computer _or company servers_." http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/finduse.mspx That isn't really true, is it? Arrggh! |
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Vista & indexing network drives
I agree. This was a huge letdown for me and my company. 20 users on 1
server, 8 on the second. It would have been great to have the network drives indexed. As it is, it's still a nice search feature, but if the network drives could be indexed....WOW it would have been nice. -- "Hurricane" Andrew Milford, DE "Valisystem" wrote in message ... I've been trying to find information online. As near as I can tell, indexing network shares was removed from Vista at some point during the beta/RC cycle. One comment by a developer suggests that the reason is that it doesn't scale well for hundreds of users to be reaching into the same folders continuously. That may be true, but I work with businesses that have 15-20 users who immediately realized the power of finding company documents instantly with Windows Desktop Search. This single omission will cause them to postpone or avoid Vista. It makes me wonder if Microsoft's promotional language is out of date. For example, on the Vista web site: "Windows Vista helps organizations effectively manage complex data collections and provides new search capabilities so that users can quickly find almost anything on their computer _or company servers_." http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/finduse.mspx That isn't really true, is it? Arrggh! |
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Vista & indexing network drives
Perhaps we'll see this out-of-band when Longhorn server arrives?
Ah, another Vista disappointment! "Hurricane Andrew" wrote in message ... I agree. This was a huge letdown for me and my company. 20 users on 1 server, 8 on the second. It would have been great to have the network drives indexed. As it is, it's still a nice search feature, but if the network drives could be indexed....WOW it would have been nice. -- "Hurricane" Andrew Milford, DE "Valisystem" wrote in message ... I've been trying to find information online. As near as I can tell, indexing network shares was removed from Vista at some point during the beta/RC cycle. One comment by a developer suggests that the reason is that it doesn't scale well for hundreds of users to be reaching into the same folders continuously. That may be true, but I work with businesses that have 15-20 users who immediately realized the power of finding company documents instantly with Windows Desktop Search. This single omission will cause them to postpone or avoid Vista. It makes me wonder if Microsoft's promotional language is out of date. For example, on the Vista web site: "Windows Vista helps organizations effectively manage complex data collections and provides new search capabilities so that users can quickly find almost anything on their computer _or company servers_." http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/finduse.mspx That isn't really true, is it? Arrggh! |
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Vista & indexing network drives
It's taken me a while to put it all together. Vista can read the indexes
maintained by another Vista computer, and - more importantly - it will be able to read the indexes maintained by a Longhorn server. But I work with small businesses, and they're not going to be running a Longhorn server for a long time - probably not until they upgrade to a Longhorn-based Small Business Server, which is at least 18-24 months away. I'm going to have trouble making the case for Vista in small businesses, I'm afraid. "Joe Zapert" wrote: Perhaps we'll see this out-of-band when Longhorn server arrives? Ah, another Vista disappointment! |
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Vista & indexing network drives
Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop
Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the same way XP does. Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996 And here's the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en |
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Vista & indexing network drives
I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I
can not find anywhere to add a unc location. It looks like nothing changed after this update. "Valisystem" wrote: Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the same way XP does. Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996 And here's the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en |
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Vista & indexing network drives
Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see
mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is installed. Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . . "Kyle O''Brien" wrote: I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I can not find anywhere to add a unc location. It looks like nothing changed after this update. "Valisystem" wrote: Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the same way XP does. Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996 And here's the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en |
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Vista & indexing network drives
Where are you finding "Search Tools"? I only have indexing options from the
control panel / System Maintenance. When i click on "indexing options" i get a Modify and Advanced. Modify only lets me see local drives and offline files. Advanced allows me to select file types, rebuild, and select the index location. (database location) Do i need to install something else? Only search add on to base vista ultimate install is UNCFATPHinstaller.msi. "Valisystem" wrote: Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is installed. Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . . "Kyle O''Brien" wrote: I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I can not find anywhere to add a unc location. It looks like nothing changed after this update. "Valisystem" wrote: Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the same way XP does. Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996 And here's the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en |
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Vista & indexing network drives
I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
"indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped netwrok drive. "Kyle O''Brien" wrote: Where are you finding "Search Tools"? I only have indexing options from the control panel / System Maintenance. When i click on "indexing options" i get a Modify and Advanced. Modify only lets me see local drives and offline files. Advanced allows me to select file types, rebuild, and select the index location. (database location) Do i need to install something else? Only search add on to base vista ultimate install is UNCFATPHinstaller.msi. "Valisystem" wrote: Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is installed. Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . . "Kyle O''Brien" wrote: I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I can not find anywhere to add a unc location. It looks like nothing changed after this update. "Valisystem" wrote: Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the same way XP does. Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996 And here's the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en |