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Hello,
I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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169.254.250.119 could be the problem. You may try to assign static IP on
both computers. In the Vista start, type cmd. right click on the cmd.exe and select Run as administrator. can you run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt now? -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "arthurwv" wrote in message ... Hello, I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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Hi
When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not have a DHCP server. Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work. You have to configure both computers to a static IP. http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "arthurwv" wrote in message ... Hello, I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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And here is a bit of sharing info!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. Permissions/Share info is there as well. If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their Exceptions are worded in their Firewall) 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is the SAME. In Vista Network and Sharing: Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) File Sharing: ON Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared Docs) Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer. Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!). In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network” OR under Accessories Communications Network Setup Wizard Allow File and Printer Sharing. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote: Hi When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not have a DHCP server. Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work. You have to configure both computers to a static IP. http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "arthurwv" wrote in message ... Hello, I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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Sorry Jack! It was for the OP!
-- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote: Hi When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not have a DHCP server. Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work. You have to configure both computers to a static IP. http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "arthurwv" wrote in message ... Hello, I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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A bit of info about File Sharing between them.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. Permissions/Share info is there as well. If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their Exceptions are worded in their Firewall) 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is the SAME. In Vista Network and Sharing: Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) File Sharing: ON Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared Docs) Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer. Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!). In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network” OR under Accessories Communications Network Setup Wizard Allow File and Printer Sharing. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "arthurwv" wrote: Hello, I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses and I've tried assigning each one an IP address. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : When I run that on the Vista I get: Access denied. What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy. Andy |
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OK, I followed the suggestions by everybody. I now can now see my XP
computer listed in the Network folder, however, it is listed as a media device and when I double click it, it opens media player. When I run ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt on Vista I get: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DrAndy-PC Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-8B-1E-33 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::acbc:d77a:cc26:d76f %9(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.198.0.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo- Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::200:5efe: 192.198.0.2%10(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:c0c6:2::c0c6:2(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled When I run net config server c:\netconfig.txt on Vista I get: Server Name \\DRANDY-PC Server Comment DrAndy Software version Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium Server is active on NetbiosSmb (DRANDY-PC) NetBT_Tcpip_{8D4872E8-4E70-4770-9737-C389E85EE955} (DRANDY-PC) Server hidden No Maximum Logged On Users 10 Maximum open files per session 16384 Idle session time (min) 15 The command completed successfully. Computer name \\DRANDY-PC Full Computer name DrAndy-PC User name Dr. Andy Workstation active on NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{8D4872E8-4E70-4770-9737-C389E85EE955} (001D098B1E33) Software version Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium Workstation domain WORKGROUP Logon domain DrAndy-PC COM Open Timeout (sec) 0 COM Send Count (byte) 16 COM Send Timeout (msec) 250 The command completed successfully. I am on the Vista now and will send this reply now. I have to switch monitor cable and internet connection back to XP to run the diagnostics. |
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Now back on XP. I forgot to mention that when I pinged XP from Vista,
it seemed to work fine. Now when I ping Vista from XP, I get the request timed out. Here is the result of ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.198.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Here is the result of netconfig: Server Name \\DELLBERT Server Comment My Computer Software version Windows 2002 Server is active on NwlnkIpx (000000000001) NwlnkNb (000bdb0e6197) NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{C3587F11-16AE-4A52-B54F-F0D1EEA3CEA6} (000bdb0e6197) Server hidden No Maximum Logged On Users 5 Maximum open files per session 16384 Idle session time (min) 15 The command completed successfully. |
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