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I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is
setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tek
wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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On Aug 5, 3:05*pm, Steve Winograd wrote:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tek wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. *I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. *Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. *Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks, I'll give your instruction a try. The Default folder is only seen when I access the Vista machine from My Network Places on the XP machine. How weird? |
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On Aug 5, 4:26*pm, tek wrote:
On Aug 5, 3:05*pm, Steve Winograd wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tek wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. *I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. *Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. *Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks, I'll give your instruction a try. The Default folder is only seen when I access the Vista machine from My Network Places on the XP machine. How weird?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So basically I go to my XP machine, open My Network Places and find the Vista machine. I see the User folder and underneath is two more folders. First is the Default (user) folder and the other is Main (user) folder. example: \\Vistahp\Users\Default I can navigate into the Default folder and I see a number of files and folders. I did not set this up to be shared from Vista but its doing it any way. Must be another sharing bug. Let me add that on my XP machine my folder options are set to vie hidden system files and folders. I believe Default is a hidden folder on Vista but it shouldn't be shared unless I configure it that way,right? |
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On Aug 5, 6:16*pm, tek wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:26*pm, tek wrote: On Aug 5, 3:05*pm, Steve Winograd wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tek wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. *I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. *Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. *Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks, I'll give your instruction a try. The Default folder is only seen when I access the Vista machine from My Network Places on the XP machine. How weird?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So basically I go to my XP machine, open My Network Places and find the Vista machine. I see the User folder and underneath is two more folders. First is the Default (user) folder and the other is Main (user) folder. example: *\\Vistahp\Users\Default I can navigate into the Default folder and I see a number of files and folders. I did not set this up to be shared from Vista but its doing it any way. Must be another sharing bug. Let me add that on my XP machine my folder options are set to vie hidden system files and folders. *I believe Default is a hidden folder on Vista but it shouldn't be shared unless I configure it that way,right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ack! It did't work. Well it half way worked. I'm able to create the share and it is displayed as \\vistahp\wmail which is what I wanted (excluding all the sub-folders) but when I try to access it I get the "permission denied... call your administrator..." donkey noise. The permissions on the share are set to everyone with full control too. Oh back to the Default folder. When I turned on view hidden folders/ files from Vista I can see the Default folder within it's Network Places also including the Public folder. Although the Public folder isn't visible across the network. Seems like there plenty of security issues within networking that have to be resolved. |
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On Aug 5, 6:57*pm, tek wrote:
On Aug 5, 6:16*pm, tek wrote: On Aug 5, 4:26*pm, tek wrote: On Aug 5, 3:05*pm, Steve Winograd wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tek wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. *I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. *Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. *Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com-Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - Thanks, I'll give your instruction a try. The Default folder is only seen when I access the Vista machine from My Network Places on the XP machine. How weird?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So basically I go to my XP machine, open My Network Places and find the Vista machine. I see the User folder and underneath is two more folders. First is the Default (user) folder and the other is Main (user) folder. example: *\\Vistahp\Users\Default I can navigate into the Default folder and I see a number of files and folders. I did not set this up to be shared from Vista but its doing it any way. Must be another sharing bug. Let me add that on my XP machine my folder options are set to vie hidden system files and folders. *I believe Default is a hidden folder on Vista but it shouldn't be shared unless I configure it that way,right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ack! *It did't work. Well it half way worked. I'm able to create the share and it is displayed as \\vistahp\wmail which is what I wanted (excluding all the sub-folders) but when I try to access it I get the "permission denied... call your administrator..." donkey noise. *The permissions on the share are set to everyone with full control too. Oh back to the Default folder. When I turned on view hidden folders/ files from Vista I can see the Default folder within it's Network Places also including the Public folder. Although the Public folder isn't visible across the network. Seems like there plenty of security issues within networking that have to be resolved.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I decided to not worry about accessing the shares from XP. My main purpose is to be able to execute the backups to a Linux machines anyways. With Samba I can connect to the shares and mount them without any problems in reading the content of the folders as long as I connect using the logon/password of the Vista user on the Vista machine. From Linux my mount points a //vistahp/contacts 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ contacts //vistahp/cookies 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ cookies //vistahp/corel 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ corel //vistahp/documents 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ documents //vistahp/favorites 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ favorites //vistahp/wmail 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ wmail Now I'm able to read these directoies and backup the data. And I don't have to worry about the sub-folders being visible within c:\users\Main Man, I hope MS resolves this soon and get back to the XP way of sharing, hehehehe. |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:57:10 -0700 (PDT), tek
wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. There's just few querky things I noticed about sharing folders in Vista. I click to open "My Network Places" from a XP machine and I see two folders, one is "Users" and the other is "Default". First, I didn't actually tell Vista to share "Users" but I selected sub-folders underneath "Users" to share. Namely, "Contacts", "Favorites", and "Documents". I'm sharing these folders so I can back them up on the Linux machine. So from "My Network Places" on XP that's what I expected to see when I clicked open the Vista machine name but, I see "Users" first. *I'm also sharing the "Windows Mail" folder for backup. So I also see each sub-folder name leading to "Windows Mail". In the XP world I would select a folder to share and give the share a name and it would be available with that share name under the machine name in "My Network Place" without any sub-folders being visible. Is this the new and improved Windows networking I have to live with? [snip] There's a bug in Vista that causes it to share the entire Users folder when you tell it to share a sub-folder. *Browse to the Users folder and un-share it, then follow these steps to share the desired sub-folders: 1. Browse to a sub-folder and right-click it. 2. Click Properties. 3. Click the Sharing tab. 4. Click Advanced Sharing. 5. Put a check mark in the "Share this folder" box. 6. Specify the share name. 7. If desired, click Permissions and define access permissions. 8. Click OK. 9. Click Close. [snip] Ack! It did't work. Well it half way worked. I'm able to create the share and it is displayed as \\vistahp\wmail which is what I wanted (excluding all the sub-folders) but when I try to access it I get the "permission denied... call your administrator..." donkey noise. The permissions on the share are set to everyone with full control too. "Everyone" permission doesn't give universal access. The "Everyone" group only contains users who have an account on the Vista computer. Create user account(s) on Vista with the same user name(s) and password(s) that you use to log onto the other computer(s). -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:16:02 -0700 (PDT), tek
wrote: I just purchased a new Vista HP laptop from Compaq. The network is setup and working fine. I'm sharing folders across a mixed network of Linux and XP machines. I can access and mount my Vista shares to Linux and XP with no issues. [snip] Secondly, at the same level of "Users" when I open the Vista namchine name in "My Network Places" I see the "Default" folder. I never understood why there is a "Default" user account ini Windows but that's another story. Why is this folder visible since I did nothing to share it? [snip] I don't know why your computer has a shared Default folder -- I don't see one on my Vista computers. *Browse to the Default folder and un-share it. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks, I'll give your instruction a try. The Default folder is only seen when I access the Vista machine from My Network Places on the XP machine. How weird? [snip] So basically I go to my XP machine, open My Network Places and find the Vista machine. I see the User folder and underneath is two more folders. First is the Default (user) folder and the other is Main (user) folder. example: \\Vistahp\Users\Default I can navigate into the Default folder and I see a number of files and folders. I did not set this up to be shared from Vista but its doing it any way. Must be another sharing bug. Let me add that on my XP machine my folder options are set to vie hidden system files and folders. I believe Default is a hidden folder on Vista but it shouldn't be shared unless I configure it that way,right? Sharing a folder automatically makes its subfolders visible over the network. I suspect that there's a user account named "Default" on your Vista computer. That would create a "Default" folder under the "Users" folder, and the "Default" folder would contain folders named "Contacts", "Desktop", "Documents", "Download", etc. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:47:11 -0700 (PDT), tek
wrote: [snip] I decided to not worry about accessing the shares from XP. My main purpose is to be able to execute the backups to a Linux machines anyways. With Samba I can connect to the shares and mount them without any problems in reading the content of the folders as long as I connect using the logon/password of the Vista user on the Vista machine. From Linux my mount points a //vistahp/contacts 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ contacts //vistahp/cookies 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ cookies //vistahp/corel 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ corel //vistahp/documents 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ documents //vistahp/favorites 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ favorites //vistahp/wmail 144263668 41383192 102880476 29% /mnt/vistahp/ wmail Now I'm able to read these directoies and backup the data. And I don't have to worry about the sub-folders being visible within c:\users\Main Man, I hope MS resolves this soon and get back to the XP way of sharing, hehehehe. The reason that you can access Vista from Linux is that you log onto both of them with the same user name and password. You can access Vista's shares from XP, too, if you do either of these: 1. Log onto XP with the same user name and password that you use to log onto Vista. or: 2. Create a user account on Vista with the same user name and password that you use to log onto XP. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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On Aug 6, 2:41*am, Steve Winograd wrote:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:47:11 -0700 (PDT), tek wrote: [snip] I decided to not worry about accessing the shares from XP. *My main purpose is to be able to execute the backups to a Linux machines anyways. With Samba I can connect to the shares and mount them without any problems in reading the content of the folders as long as I connect using the logon/password of the Vista user on the Vista machine. From Linux my mount points a //vistahp/contacts * 144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ contacts //vistahp/cookies * *144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ cookies //vistahp/corel * * *144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ corel //vistahp/documents *144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ documents //vistahp/favorites *144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ favorites //vistahp/wmail * * *144263668 *41383192 102880476 *29% /mnt/vistahp/ wmail Now I'm able to read these directoies and backup the data. And I don't have to worry about the sub-folders being visible within c:\users\Main Man, I hope MS resolves this soon and get back to the XP way of sharing, hehehehe. The reason that you can access Vista from Linux is that you log onto both of them with the same user name and password. *You can access Vista's shares from XP, too, if you do either of these: 1. Log onto XP with the same user name and password that you use to log onto Vista. or: 2. Create a user account on Vista with the same user name and password that you use to log onto XP. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. *I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe the Default folder location is related to the Guest user account? |
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