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Old September 1st 08, 05:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Folder view keeps changing

I have a small, but irritating problem. The problem I have is the view of
the folder keeps changing.
I know that it is not a big problem, but it is something I would like to
sort out either way.

Many thanks in advance.

NIK
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Old September 1st 08, 09:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
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Default Folder view keeps changing


Hello NIK,

Doing Method Two in this tutorial will help Vista remember your folder
view settings for a window for when it was last closed.


http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70...-settings.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Nicholas Hall;825747 Wrote:
I have a small, but irritating problem. The problem I have is the view
of
the folder keeps changing.
I know that it is not a big problem, but it is something I would like
to
sort out either way.

Many thanks in advance.

NIK



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Old September 4th 08, 11:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
fanless
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Default Folder view keeps changing


hi,
I'm just new to vista (one day), after having been using XP for years.
I organize my desktop with folders (shortcuts to folders) contanining
many things, mainly shortcuts to doc files, programs, and folders
through explorer commands with /root option to limit access to some
directories.
I have the same problem as everybody (folder settings lost) but the
procedure that has been described many times does not really work (I
also have tried a reg file with all the necessary commands) . I have
tried many times without success

the simple operation to do is:
- create an empty folder on the desktop
- open it
- set its settings to no navigation panel, medium size icons
- copy a shortcut to file explorer into the folder
- launch the shortcut : explorer shows a left panel
- when I select any folder in the left panel, the panel disapears
- then I set it again to be displayed
- I close the explorer
- I close the desktop folder
- and now, when I reopen it, there is a left panel opened.

The purpose of the desktop folder I use (or it can be a shortcut to a
folder), is to store only shrtcuts, so I dont need any navigation panel,
menu bar, CDrom burn button, search panel, and so on.
I'm afraid this is not possible, and I'm afraid too that vista will
offer me many problems soon, assuming that such a 'folder settings
management' problem has not yet been resolved since Vista was released
.... which other thing will be blocking next for my XP running tools
(I'm working with GCC, Eclipse, GDB, TCPIP development, and many other
... )
and will we be sure that a future Service pack will fix the bug ?

I wish my small test can help , but I would like to have another
solution to manage my desktop, without having to by a third party
manager.

I'm close to reinstall XP on the computer, I have spend too much time
for now.

Post-Scriptum : is it an Explorer problem too : when I right-clik /
new/ folder or text file, on a right pane of file explorer, sometimes
nothing appears, I must refresh with F5 ?
and again another thing : I cannot suppress the menu bar in the
explorer, however I already have seen it working today ....

what can we do........

regards,
Jean-Luc


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Old September 5th 08, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
DDW[_2_]
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Default Folder view keeps changing

fanless wrote:

I'm close to reinstall XP on the computer, I have spend too much time
for now.


One day's experience with Vista?

If you're THAT impatient, you probably SHOULD.

One day.

Hmmph.

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Old September 5th 08, 02:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
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Default Folder view keeps changing


Hello Jean-Luc,

The Navigation pane is tied to the folder template in Windows Explorer.
If you turn it on or off in a Windows Explorer window that has one
template type (ex: All Items), then all Windows Explorer windows with
that same template will be affected too. Only the ones that have
different folder templates will not be affected. You would need to make
sure that the folder on your desktop has a different folder template
than the other ones for it to stay off in while on in the others. This
tutorial will help explain more about this.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/69...-explorer.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn

fanless;828344 Wrote:
hi,
I'm just new to vista (one day), after having been using XP for years.
I organize my desktop with folders (shortcuts to folders) contanining
many things, mainly shortcuts to doc files, programs, and folders
through explorer commands with /root option to limit access to some
directories.
I have the same problem as everybody (folder settings lost) but the
procedure that has been described many times does not really work (I
also have tried a reg file with all the necessary commands) . I have
tried many times without success

the simple operation to do is:
- create an empty folder on the desktop
- open it
- set its settings to no navigation panel, medium size icons
- copy a shortcut to file explorer into the folder
- launch the shortcut : explorer shows a left panel
- when I select any folder in the left panel, the panel disapears
- then I set it again to be displayed
- I close the explorer
- I close the desktop folder
- and now, when I reopen it, there is a left panel opened.

The purpose of the desktop folder I use (or it can be a shortcut to a
folder), is to store only shrtcuts, so I dont need any navigation panel,
menu bar, CDrom burn button, search panel, and so on.
I'm afraid this is not possible, and I'm afraid too that vista will
offer me many problems soon, assuming that such a 'folder settings
management' problem has not yet been resolved since Vista was released
.... which other thing will be blocking next for my XP running tools
(I'm working with GCC, Eclipse, GDB, TCPIP development, and many other
... )
and will we be sure that a future Service pack will fix the bug ?

I wish my small test can help , but I would like to have another
solution to manage my desktop, without having to by a third party
manager.

I'm close to reinstall XP on the computer, I have spend too much time
for now.

Post-Scriptum : is it an Explorer problem too : when I right-clik /
new/ folder or text file, on a right pane of file explorer, sometimes
nothing appears, I must refresh with F5 ?
and again another thing : I cannot suppress the menu bar in the
explorer, however I already have seen it working today ....

what can we do........

regards,
Jean-Luc



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Old September 5th 08, 10:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
fanless
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Default Folder view keeps changing


hi Shawn,

I have understood the theory of folder templates (however I cannot find
more than 5, maybe the french version ? : all elements, documents,
images & videos, music details, music file icons.)

When I create my holding desktop folder, I give it the 'images&videos'
template, disable the navigation pane and select medium icons.

when I insert the shortcut to explorer in it, I give the explorer, once
opened, the 'document' template, with navigation pane ON.
Then I close the desktop folder, open it again, open the explorer
shortcut, it opens normally with navigation pane, but when I select a
folder in the navigation pane, the pane closes. If I ask to open it
again with the 'organize' menu, then it will be my desktop container
folder which will open a navigation pane too !

I have made another try : adding a shortcut whith th following command %SystemRoot%\explorer.exe /e,/root,"d:\datasheets" into my desktop folder, and here is the message when I first rightclick
on the window to personnalize :
[image:
http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...=122060487 6]

Once I have selected a folder on the navigation pane, the
personalization window appears normally.
can you try the same operation and tell me the behavior on your
computer, (if you have a little time to lose) it simple to implement
....
I dont understand why, at a moment, I had only one choice, navigation
pane, in the organize menu.

Jean-Luc


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|Filename: error not implemented.jpg |
|Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...achmentid=6300 |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Old September 5th 08, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
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Default Folder view keeps changing


Jean-Luc,

It's all tied into the folder view settings per separate window and
template. Apply Method Two in this tutoral to reset the folder views to
help Vista remember your settings per window for when you last closed
the window. You will need to make the change per open location for that
folder. (ex: Start menu, folder tree, Computer, etc...)

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70...-settings.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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Old September 5th 08, 09:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
fanless
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Default Folder view keeps changing


Shawn,

thank you for these informations. I've just done the operations several
time again, following the tutorials, it does not work !

I've run the reg file, rebooted the computer, check the general folder
options (ok).
if I set the template of a shortcut to explorer, opened for instance on
drive D, to 'document', it works correctly.
as soon as I set the template of another folder to 'images' or 'music
icons', the preceding explorer shortcut does not work again : selecting
a folder in the navigation pane closes the navigation pane.
I cannot make it work, you should try to do the same processing, I
think it cannot work.
The computer is a brand new one, vista has just been installed on it.

I have worked on XP and former windows versions with such folder usage,
if did work everytime.
it's absolutely necessary that microsoft correct this, it's not
possible do make these acrobatic manipulations to manage folders.

Jean-Luc


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Old September 5th 08, 09:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
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Default Folder view keeps changing


I agree that it needs to be fixed. The whole folder view situation is
just to flakey in Vista. I just does not look like you will be able to
get to work the way you want it to until they can get this fixed.

Sorry,
Shawn


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Old September 5th 08, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
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"fanless" wrote in message
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Shawn,

thank you for these informations. I've just done the operations several
time again, following the tutorials, it does not work !

I've run the reg file, rebooted the computer, check the general folder
options (ok).
if I set the template of a shortcut to explorer, opened for instance on
drive D, to 'document', it works correctly.
as soon as I set the template of another folder to 'images' or 'music
icons', the preceding explorer shortcut does not work again : selecting
a folder in the navigation pane closes the navigation pane.
I cannot make it work, you should try to do the same processing, I
think it cannot work.
The computer is a brand new one, vista has just been installed on it.

I have worked on XP and former windows versions with such folder usage,
if did work everytime.
it's absolutely necessary that microsoft correct this, it's not
possible do make these acrobatic manipulations to manage folders.

Jean-Luc


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fanless


I can certainly understand your desire that the folder properties are stable
in use. But this is not Microsoft you are talking to. We are a bunch of
users (peers) who try to help when we can.

I must say you have had extraordinary luck in your statement about prior
versions being as stable as you wish. I have used every version of Windows
since 3.11, and I have never found any version that would retain all folder
settings for any significant time. Resetting folder properties is a way of
life in Windows. I hope someone here can suggest a fix for your problem, but
frankly I doubt it, nor do I believe that XP "worked every time!" It
certainly didn't in the fourteen XP machines I was responsible for. Nor was
there a patch or fix for it in XP. Good luck!

 




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