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  #11 (permalink)  
Old September 3rd 08, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mark H[_2_]
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Well, I read up on this issue since I don't use OneNote or Outlook and find
myself in awe of MS's lack of support for one of their own key products.
Hope they actually fix it with the next update to OneNote.


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
Not sure why you believe this to be an x64 or Vista issue. Sounds like

an
Office issue.

I agree some individuals may have incompatibility issues. There are

simply
too many different standards out there. But, those same individuals

might
be
surprised to know the same issues occur with the x86 version at nearly

the
same frequency.

I simply stated I have had no compatibility issues even though I've
changed
hard drives, memory, CPU and installed various software items over the
last
year and one-half. This will not be the case for everyone. But, it is

not
the issue it used to be with XPx64.


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
I, and probably many others, would have to say Vista x64 has come a
long
way
on the compatibility issue. I have yet to run into a problem with x64
compatibility since Vista was released.


"Victek" wrote in message
...
Hello
I hope you can help me with an issue :
My PC is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 2.66GHz windows Vista

Ultimate
32
bits 8,00GB ram. My brother wants my 2 2GB memory dim because he

says
32
bits systems don't recognize RAM over 4GB.
The system says 8GB, and the motherboard Asus
P5E CHIPSET X38 supports 8GB. Is he right and I have 4 more GB Ram

for
nothing, or is the ram ayhow helpfull and I showld keep it as it

is
?

Thankx

Maria Dulce

Unfortunately 4 gigs is the maximum that a 32-bit OS can use. In
fact,
because some of the address spaces are reserved for hardware (such

as
the
ram on the video card) the OS actually only has 3.X gigs available

to
it.
Try reducing the ram to four gigs and observe your PC's

performance -
you
should not see any difference. 64-bit OS's exist, but there are

still
compatibility issues. They are the future though, so you're brother

may
have to return the ram in a year or two g.





Try archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx








Of course it is an x64 issue.. there is no driver for the function

available
for x64, but it works well enough in 32bit versions..

Hardware compatibility is being taken way more seriously than it was for
XP64, at least as far as what is in the case, but there are still issues

for
some peripheral devices, and software.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx






  #12 (permalink)  
Old September 3rd 08, 07:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mike Hall - MVP[_3_]
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Posts: 1,323
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"Mark H" wrote in message
...
Well, I read up on this issue since I don't use OneNote or Outlook and
find
myself in awe of MS's lack of support for one of their own key products.
Hope they actually fix it with the next update to OneNote.


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
Not sure why you believe this to be an x64 or Vista issue. Sounds like

an
Office issue.

I agree some individuals may have incompatibility issues. There are

simply
too many different standards out there. But, those same individuals

might
be
surprised to know the same issues occur with the x86 version at nearly

the
same frequency.

I simply stated I have had no compatibility issues even though I've
changed
hard drives, memory, CPU and installed various software items over the
last
year and one-half. This will not be the case for everyone. But, it is

not
the issue it used to be with XPx64.


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
I, and probably many others, would have to say Vista x64 has come a
long
way
on the compatibility issue. I have yet to run into a problem with
x64
compatibility since Vista was released.


"Victek" wrote in message
...
Hello
I hope you can help me with an issue :
My PC is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 2.66GHz windows Vista

Ultimate
32
bits 8,00GB ram. My brother wants my 2 2GB memory dim because
he
says
32
bits systems don't recognize RAM over 4GB.
The system says 8GB, and the motherboard Asus
P5E CHIPSET X38 supports 8GB. Is he right and I have 4 more GB
Ram
for
nothing, or is the ram ayhow helpfull and I showld keep it as it

is
?

Thankx

Maria Dulce

Unfortunately 4 gigs is the maximum that a 32-bit OS can use. In
fact,
because some of the address spaces are reserved for hardware (such

as
the
ram on the video card) the OS actually only has 3.X gigs available

to
it.
Try reducing the ram to four gigs and observe your PC's

performance -
you
should not see any difference. 64-bit OS's exist, but there are

still
compatibility issues. They are the future though, so you're
brother
may
have to return the ram in a year or two g.





Try archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx








Of course it is an x64 issue.. there is no driver for the function

available
for x64, but it works well enough in 32bit versions..

Hardware compatibility is being taken way more seriously than it was for
XP64, at least as far as what is in the case, but there are still issues

for
some peripheral devices, and software.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx








You can't include an x64 driver in a 32bit product. The problem will be
resolved with the next version of Office most likely.. presumably there will
be a 64bit version..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




  #13 (permalink)  
Old September 4th 08, 01:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mike Hall - MVP[_3_]
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Posts: 1,323
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"Mike Brannigan" Mike.Brannigan@localhost wrote in message
...
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
I, and probably many others, would have to say Vista x64 has come a long
way
on the compatibility issue. I have yet to run into a problem with x64
compatibility since Vista was released.


"Victek" wrote in message
...
Hello
I hope you can help me with an issue :
My PC is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 2.66GHz windows Vista Ultimate
32
bits 8,00GB ram. My brother wants my 2 2GB memory dim because he
says
32
bits systems don't recognize RAM over 4GB.
The system says 8GB, and the motherboard Asus
P5E CHIPSET X38 supports 8GB. Is he right and I have 4 more GB Ram
for
nothing, or is the ram ayhow helpfull and I showld keep it as it is ?

Thankx

Maria Dulce

Unfortunately 4 gigs is the maximum that a 32-bit OS can use. In fact,
because some of the address spaces are reserved for hardware (such as
the
ram on the video card) the OS actually only has 3.X gigs available to
it.
Try reducing the ram to four gigs and observe your PC's performance -
you
should not see any difference. 64-bit OS's exist, but there are still
compatibility issues. They are the future though, so you're brother
may
have to return the ram in a year or two g.





Try archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




If by "archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote.." you mean when you right
click on a message and "Send to OneNote" then that functions perfectly on
x64 Windows Vista with Office 2007 (all patched to latest service packs
and
all updates).

I have looked at a x86 (32-bit) system and did not see any additional
options to archive to anything other then a PST file.

Can you elaborate on your issue?

--

Mike Brannigan




I do archive by way of the send to OneNote feature.

This issue was raised at the very beginning and I was made aware by the
Office team that the issue would not be fixed until the next release of
Office.

I have to do some re-organization of my system to accommodate Vista 64, but
I will try it. This is the only reason left standing for me not moving to
Vista 64..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




  #14 (permalink)  
Old September 4th 08, 07:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mike Hall - MVP[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,323
Default RAM

"Mike Brannigan" Mike.Brannigan@localhost wrote in message
...
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mike Brannigan" Mike.Brannigan@localhost wrote in message
...
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
I, and probably many others, would have to say Vista x64 has come a
long way
on the compatibility issue. I have yet to run into a problem with x64
compatibility since Vista was released.


"Victek" wrote in message
...
Hello
I hope you can help me with an issue :
My PC is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 2.66GHz windows Vista
Ultimate 32
bits 8,00GB ram. My brother wants my 2 2GB memory dim because he
says
32
bits systems don't recognize RAM over 4GB.
The system says 8GB, and the motherboard Asus
P5E CHIPSET X38 supports 8GB. Is he right and I have 4 more GB Ram
for
nothing, or is the ram ayhow helpfull and I showld keep it as it is
?

Thankx

Maria Dulce

Unfortunately 4 gigs is the maximum that a 32-bit OS can use. In
fact,
because some of the address spaces are reserved for hardware (such as
the
ram on the video card) the OS actually only has 3.X gigs available to
it.
Try reducing the ram to four gigs and observe your PC's performance -
you
should not see any difference. 64-bit OS's exist, but there are
still
compatibility issues. They are the future though, so you're brother
may
have to return the ram in a year or two g.





Try archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




If by "archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote.." you mean when you
right
click on a message and "Send to OneNote" then that functions perfectly
on
x64 Windows Vista with Office 2007 (all patched to latest service packs
and
all updates).

I have looked at a x86 (32-bit) system and did not see any additional
options to archive to anything other then a PST file.

Can you elaborate on your issue?

--

Mike Brannigan




I do archive by way of the send to OneNote feature.

This issue was raised at the very beginning and I was made aware by the
Office team that the issue would not be fixed until the next release of
Office.

I have to do some re-organization of my system to accommodate Vista 64,
but I will try it. This is the only reason left standing for me not
moving to Vista 64..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




"Send To OneNote" from a mail item in Outlook 2007 with SP1 and all
updates
on Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 with all updates - functions correctly
and without error.


--

Mike Brannigan



This is where my initial info originated..

http://blog.nils-kaiser.de/2008/06/2...-on-vista-x64/

There was a work around but it cost $50..

http://blog.nils-kaiser.de/2008/06/2...-on-vista-x64/

It is good to know that MS fixed the problem.. Now all I have to do is
replace my old scanner, and I will be x64 ready..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




  #15 (permalink)  
Old September 4th 08, 07:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mike Hall - MVP[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,323
Default RAM

"Mike Brannigan" Mike.Brannigan@localhost wrote in message
...
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mike Brannigan" Mike.Brannigan@localhost wrote in message
...
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
"Mark H" wrote in message
...
I, and probably many others, would have to say Vista x64 has come a
long way
on the compatibility issue. I have yet to run into a problem with x64
compatibility since Vista was released.


"Victek" wrote in message
...
Hello
I hope you can help me with an issue :
My PC is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 2.66GHz windows Vista
Ultimate 32
bits 8,00GB ram. My brother wants my 2 2GB memory dim because he
says
32
bits systems don't recognize RAM over 4GB.
The system says 8GB, and the motherboard Asus
P5E CHIPSET X38 supports 8GB. Is he right and I have 4 more GB Ram
for
nothing, or is the ram ayhow helpfull and I showld keep it as it is
?

Thankx

Maria Dulce

Unfortunately 4 gigs is the maximum that a 32-bit OS can use. In
fact,
because some of the address spaces are reserved for hardware (such as
the
ram on the video card) the OS actually only has 3.X gigs available to
it.
Try reducing the ram to four gigs and observe your PC's performance -
you
should not see any difference. 64-bit OS's exist, but there are
still
compatibility issues. They are the future though, so you're brother
may
have to return the ram in a year or two g.





Try archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




If by "archiving mail from Outlook into OneNote.." you mean when you
right
click on a message and "Send to OneNote" then that functions perfectly
on
x64 Windows Vista with Office 2007 (all patched to latest service packs
and
all updates).

I have looked at a x86 (32-bit) system and did not see any additional
options to archive to anything other then a PST file.

Can you elaborate on your issue?

--

Mike Brannigan




I do archive by way of the send to OneNote feature.

This issue was raised at the very beginning and I was made aware by the
Office team that the issue would not be fixed until the next release of
Office.

I have to do some re-organization of my system to accommodate Vista 64,
but I will try it. This is the only reason left standing for me not
moving to Vista 64..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




"Send To OneNote" from a mail item in Outlook 2007 with SP1 and all
updates
on Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 with all updates - functions correctly
and without error.


--

Mike Brannigan



Missed this one..

http://blogs.msdn.com/david_rasmusse...nt-driver.aspx


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




 




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