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Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?



 
 
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Old September 14th 08, 09:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.server.setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Bill Kearney
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?

Is it possible to get the Windows 2008 install DVD to use the 2nd partition
of a drive as D:?

I've tried, really, I have. But it just does not want to recognize the
partition as anything other than C:

Regardless of whether the first partition is present, or how any of them are
formatted. I cannot, for the life of me, get the installer to set up an
install the way I want it.

And, to make matters worse, the "TrustedInstaller" pseudo-group blocks any
attempts to search and replace in the registry to clean up the pathnames.
I've done the registry edits for MountedDevices. That coupled with registry
clean up usually takes care of things. But since the installer is mucking
things up that's not possible.

So, besides speculating, does anyone have definite steps to take to get
windows 2008 server installed on the 2nd partition of a drive and boot as
D:?

Thanks,
-Bill Kearney

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Old September 14th 08, 09:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
barman58
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?


Sorry bill as far as I know all flavours of windows must have the system
drive as C:
the only way I know of to get past the trusted installer is as the FULL
administartor account in safe mode


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Old September 14th 08, 11:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Bill Kearney
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?

Sorry bill as far as I know all flavours of windows must have the system
drive as C:


Ah, no, that's incorrect. In my considerable experience, all versions of
Windows prior to Vista (3.1, 95, ME, NT, w2k, XP, etc) fully supported being
installed to a drive letter other than C:. I know, having done it many
hundreds of times over the decades. And they used a relatively predictable
pattern in how they treated various partitions as drive letters. The w2k8
installer seems to have a mind of it's own, ignoring the previous patterns.

the only way I know of to get past the trusted installer is as the FULL
administartor account in safe mode


In w2k8 the administrator is active, unlike user-oriented Vista. But
they're essentially the same OS behind the scenes.

The only method I've found to get what I want is to do multiple installs.
Set up a throwaway partition on the drive, install to it and let it treat it
as C: That is, partition the drive 1st, 2nd and 3rd, using the 3rd one for
the initial install. Once it's installed, use the diskmgmt.msc console to
configure the desired partitions. In my case that meant leaving the 1st one
with some other drive letter. Then run the setup.exe installer from the DVD
(or copy it up to the drive for added speed). Under this instance the
installer seems to respect drive letters. Freeing me to use the 2nd
partition as D:. Once that's installed, boot to it and then delete the 3rd
partition (first install calling itself C. Once that's gone, it's then
possible to change the 1st partition as C: and recreate a 3rd one as E.
This being the configuration some software here requires.

All this nonsense because the installer has gotten even less intelligent
than in previous versions of Windows. sigh/

-Bill Kearney

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Old September 15th 08, 09:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.server.setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Meinolf Weber
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?

Hello Bill,

See here why not:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-aa6ce9a5dd6e/

Best regards

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Is it possible to get the Windows 2008 install DVD to use the 2nd
partition of a drive as D:?

I've tried, really, I have. But it just does not want to recognize
the partition as anything other than C:

Regardless of whether the first partition is present, or how any of
them are formatted. I cannot, for the life of me, get the installer
to set up an install the way I want it.

And, to make matters worse, the "TrustedInstaller" pseudo-group blocks
any attempts to search and replace in the registry to clean up the
pathnames. I've done the registry edits for MountedDevices. That
coupled with registry clean up usually takes care of things. But
since the installer is mucking things up that's not possible.

So, besides speculating, does anyone have definite steps to take to
get windows 2008 server installed on the 2nd partition of a drive and
boot as D:?

Thanks,
-Bill Kearney



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Old September 15th 08, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.server.setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
andy
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?

Have you tried the process described in the last reply at
http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/131636-vista-64-dual-boot-changing-drive-letter.html?

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:01:39 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
wrote:

Is it possible to get the Windows 2008 install DVD to use the 2nd partition
of a drive as D:?

I've tried, really, I have. But it just does not want to recognize the
partition as anything other than C:

Regardless of whether the first partition is present, or how any of them are
formatted. I cannot, for the life of me, get the installer to set up an
install the way I want it.

And, to make matters worse, the "TrustedInstaller" pseudo-group blocks any
attempts to search and replace in the registry to clean up the pathnames.
I've done the registry edits for MountedDevices. That coupled with registry
clean up usually takes care of things. But since the installer is mucking
things up that's not possible.

So, besides speculating, does anyone have definite steps to take to get
windows 2008 server installed on the 2nd partition of a drive and boot as
D:?

Thanks,
-Bill Kearney


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Old September 15th 08, 08:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.server.setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Bill Kearney
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?


"andy" wrote in message
...
Have you tried the process described in the last reply at
http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/131636-vista-64-dual-boot-changing-drive-letter.html?


Yes, as I indicated. But the MountedDevices hack doesn't entirely work. It
runs afoul of leaving registry entries behind that point to C:\ paths. And
those registry entries (some 509 of them) can't be fixed because only the
"TrustedInstaller" owns them.

The solution, unfortunately, is to install twice. Once to a throwaway
partition, then again once booted from it. Only then can you set up the
drives properly. This is damned irritating, it never had this problem in
the past. One more example where Vista does things differently "just
because it can"? Not exactly progress.

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Old September 15th 08, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.server.setup,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Bill Kearney
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?


"Meinolf Weber" wrote in message
. com...
Hello Bill,

See here why not:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-aa6ce9a5dd6e/


I wonder what he meant by:

Windows server 2008 and Vista have the different behavior to handle dual
boot scenario with program compatibility concerns. For example, For some
legacy programs, they may use "C:\" instead of "%systemdrive%". They always
assign boot partition as letter C rather than the mechanism in prior Windows
systems.


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Old September 16th 08, 01:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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Default Install windows 2008 on to 2nd partition and use it as D: drive?

Hello Bill,
Use an unattended file to choose the drive letter.
letter is the unattended setting.


There were many requests for this functionality to default to C drive for
each Windows installations for prior versions of Windows.
The unattended option exists for people who wish to choose the drive letter.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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| Sorry bill as far as I know all flavours of windows must have the
system
| drive as C:
|
| Ah, no, that's incorrect. In my considerable experience, all versions
of
| Windows prior to Vista (3.1, 95, ME, NT, w2k, XP, etc) fully supported
being
| installed to a drive letter other than C:. I know, having done it many
| hundreds of times over the decades. And they used a relatively
predictable
| pattern in how they treated various partitions as drive letters. The
w2k8
| installer seems to have a mind of it's own, ignoring the previous
patterns.
|
| the only way I know of to get past the trusted installer is as the FULL
| administartor account in safe mode
|
| In w2k8 the administrator is active, unlike user-oriented Vista. But
| they're essentially the same OS behind the scenes.
|
| The only method I've found to get what I want is to do multiple
installs.
| Set up a throwaway partition on the drive, install to it and let it
treat it
| as C: That is, partition the drive 1st, 2nd and 3rd, using the 3rd one
for
| the initial install. Once it's installed, use the diskmgmt.msc console
to
| configure the desired partitions. In my case that meant leaving the 1st
one
| with some other drive letter. Then run the setup.exe installer from the
DVD
| (or copy it up to the drive for added speed). Under this instance the
| installer seems to respect drive letters. Freeing me to use the 2nd
| partition as D:. Once that's installed, boot to it and then delete the
3rd
| partition (first install calling itself C. Once that's gone, it's
then
| possible to change the 1st partition as C: and recreate a 3rd one as E.
| This being the configuration some software here requires.
|
| All this nonsense because the installer has gotten even less intelligent
| than in previous versions of Windows. sigh/
|
| -Bill Kearney
|
|

 




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