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Nvidia Drivers
Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the
Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. |
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Nvidia Drivers
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:19:39 +0100, "Phil" wrote:
Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Get hardware updates from the manufacturer's site(s) rather than from Windows update. |
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Hi Phil, I would use the latest ones from NVIDIA. Windows Updates seems to always be behind when it comes to drivers. Hope this helps, Shawn Phil;844780 Wrote: Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. -- Brink *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*VISTA FORUMS*' (http://www.vistax64.com) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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If its working why are you updating?
Does the updated driver cure a problem? If it aint broke dont fix it You should not use winupdate for drivers "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. |
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If the drivers at the Nvidia site state are on the MS WHQL then they have
been submitted to and approved by MS and sooner or later MS will also add them to Win Update. "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:36:00 -0700, "Curious"
wrote: If the drivers at the Nvidia site state are on the MS WHQL then they have been submitted to and approved by MS and sooner or later MS will also add them to Win Update. "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. I'm experiencing the exact opposite. Nvidia's driver finder tells me to install a slightly older version, while Windows Update installed the newest one. |
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Nvidia Drivers
Please supply the driver finder data that you received at the Nvidia Site
for your card/ model. Is is possible you selected archived drivers by mistake? "knowone" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:36:00 -0700, "Curious" wrote: If the drivers at the Nvidia site state are on the MS WHQL then they have been submitted to and approved by MS and sooner or later MS will also add them to Win Update. "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. I'm experiencing the exact opposite. Nvidia's driver finder tells me to install a slightly older version, while Windows Update installed the newest one. |
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Nvidia Drivers
This is caused by Plug and Play ranking. For the most part, Windows Update
tries to emulate the ranking that PnP would use when selecting a driver (there are a couple items WU does not take into account). With WU ranking, a more specific hardwareID will always be preferred over a lesser specific hardwareID. This is based on the PnP assumption that a driver that is more specific to your device will always be a better match than a lesser specific hardwareID (regardless of the version). So take my NVIDIA display adapter: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE&REV_A2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&CC_0300 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&REV_A2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193 PCI\VEN_10DE&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_10DE&CC_0300 PCI\VEN_10DE PCI\CC_030000 PCI\CC_0300 In this case, the PCI.SYS bus driver is responsible for building this list of hardwareIDs. This list is sorted from most specific to least specific. NVIDIA only posts two part PCI hardwareID matches to their website (PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_yyyy). In order for an OEM to push a driver to WU, they must use a four part PCI hardwareID (PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_yyyy&SUBSYS_yyyyxxxx). So if you pull down a driver from NVIDIA.COM, and later scan your machine on WU, WU will think it has a better matching driver (even though the WU driver may be older). You can find more about PnP Ranking he http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa477022.aspx "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:47:57 -0700, "Curious"
wrote: "knowone" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:36:00 -0700, "Curious" wrote: If the drivers at the Nvidia site state are on the MS WHQL then they have been submitted to and approved by MS and sooner or later MS will also add them to Win Update. "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. I'm experiencing the exact opposite. Nvidia's driver finder tells me to install a slightly older version, while Windows Update installed the newest one. Please supply the driver finder data that you received at the Nvidia Site for your card/ model. Is is possible you selected archived drivers by mistake? I used the scanner at http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us It now shows a brand new version, released yesterday, 25 September 2008, while windows update shows no new updates available. |
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Thank you for all your replies
Phil "Timothy Davis [MSFT]" wrote in message ... This is caused by Plug and Play ranking. For the most part, Windows Update tries to emulate the ranking that PnP would use when selecting a driver (there are a couple items WU does not take into account). With WU ranking, a more specific hardwareID will always be preferred over a lesser specific hardwareID. This is based on the PnP assumption that a driver that is more specific to your device will always be a better match than a lesser specific hardwareID (regardless of the version). So take my NVIDIA display adapter: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE&REV_A2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&CC_0300 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&REV_A2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193 PCI\VEN_10DE&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_10DE&CC_0300 PCI\VEN_10DE PCI\CC_030000 PCI\CC_0300 In this case, the PCI.SYS bus driver is responsible for building this list of hardwareIDs. This list is sorted from most specific to least specific. NVIDIA only posts two part PCI hardwareID matches to their website (PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_yyyy). In order for an OEM to push a driver to WU, they must use a four part PCI hardwareID (PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_yyyy&SUBSYS_yyyyxxxx). So if you pull down a driver from NVIDIA.COM, and later scan your machine on WU, WU will think it has a better matching driver (even though the WU driver may be older). You can find more about PnP Ranking he http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa477022.aspx "Phil" wrote in message ... Why are the Nvidia graphic card drivers on windows update older than on the Nvidia website & yet windows update always recommends the older one they have?, I don't know which one to use, Phil. |