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Old September 26th 08, 02:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steven Hill
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Default Defrag removes restore points

Hi,

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I also
tried Diskeeper same result.

Thanks

Steve

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Old September 26th 08, 03:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Montgomery[_3_]
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Default Defrag removes restore points

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:55:16 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I also
tried Diskeeper same result.


Don't perform the boot defrag (the one that runs before Windows
loads). I ran that either with Diskeeper or another program once and
lost all my restore points.
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Old September 26th 08, 04:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steven Hill
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Default Defrag removes restore points

Thanks for the response Paul,
I ran defrag from within Vista this has me puzzled. I have googled and for
the most part this happens with duel boot or as you say through boot defrag
neither of which applies :-(

"Paul Montgomery" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:55:16 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium
defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I also
tried Diskeeper same result.


Don't perform the boot defrag (the one that runs before Windows
loads). I ran that either with Diskeeper or another program once and
lost all my restore points.


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Old September 26th 08, 05:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Montgomery[_3_]
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Default Defrag removes restore points

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:40:01 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

Thanks for the response Paul,
I ran defrag from within Vista this has me puzzled. I have googled and for
the most part this happens with duel boot or as you say through boot defrag
neither of which applies :-(


Do you have it set to use "VSS defragmentation method"? It should be
set to do that.


"Paul Montgomery" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:55:16 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium
defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I also
tried Diskeeper same result.


Don't perform the boot defrag (the one that runs before Windows
loads). I ran that either with Diskeeper or another program once and
lost all my restore points.

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Old September 26th 08, 10:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steven Hill
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Default Defrag removes restore points

Thanks again I uninstalled Diskeeper I'll put it back on and check in the
morning :-)

"Paul Montgomery" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:40:01 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

Thanks for the response Paul,
I ran defrag from within Vista this has me puzzled. I have googled and for
the most part this happens with duel boot or as you say through boot
defrag
neither of which applies :-(


Do you have it set to use "VSS defragmentation method"? It should be
set to do that.


"Paul Montgomery" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:55:16 +0100, "Steven Hill"
wrote:

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium
defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I also
tried Diskeeper same result.

Don't perform the boot defrag (the one that runs before Windows
loads). I ran that either with Diskeeper or another program once and
lost all my restore points.


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Old September 26th 08, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
MilesAhead[_4_]
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Default Defrag removes restore points


2 good free defraggers are Auslogics and jkDefrag.

There's a nice GUI so that you don't need to know the
jkDefrag options: 'jkDefragGUI' (http://jkdefrag.8qm.de/english.php)

I haven't seen either remove my restore points.
Are you multi-booting with XP by any chance?


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Old September 27th 08, 12:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Montgomery[_3_]
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Default Defrag removes restore points

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:45:39 -0500, MilesAhead
wrote:

2 good free defraggers are Auslogics and jkDefrag.


Agreed, but of the two, I liked Auslogics better. In fact, that's
what I use on my notebook which doesn't get nearly as much use as this
machine does.

On this machine I have 4 internal drives and 2 external... jkDefrag
wanted to do them all unless I used the command line options. Too
much trouble.

I tried the trial version of Diskeeper for the full trial period, and
got sucked in by the experience so I bought it ;-)
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Old September 29th 08, 02:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Defrag removes restore points


Steven Hill;846158 Wrote:
Hi,

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium
defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I
also
tried Diskeeper same result.

Thanks

Steve


Hi Steve,
What version of Diskeeper are you using?

If it is the 2008 version, are you using the VSS compatible defrag
option (which is recommended) for the volume on which VSS is active?
That should minimize (may not altogether eliminate) the loss of restore
points.

This is a known issue regarding the defragmentation of Vista, WHS and
Server 2003 in the presence of VSS, when the volume has been formatted
with a cluster size less than 16kB.

Please see these links for more information.
'The Diskeeper Blog: DK'08 Feature Spotlight - VSS Compatibility Mode'
(http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archive...eature_sp.html)
'Shadow copies may be lost when you defragment a volume'
(http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;312067)



Best regards
------------------------------------
Representative
Diskeeper Corporation
--------------------------------------


--
DiskeeperRep
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Old September 29th 08, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steven Hill
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Default Defrag removes restore points

Hi, Thanks for the reply I am running Diskeeper 2007 Home edition I am
reluctant to button the 2008 version on the off chance that it might not
delete the restore points. I didn't notice this happening before I did a
fresh install of Vista Home though I might just have missed it.


"DiskeeperRep" wrote in message
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Steven Hill;846158 Wrote:
Hi,

I have just had to reformat and re-install Vista Home Premium
defragmenting
the drive removes all restore points anyone know how to fix this. I
also
tried Diskeeper same result.

Thanks

Steve


Hi Steve,
What version of Diskeeper are you using?

If it is the 2008 version, are you using the VSS compatible defrag
option (which is recommended) for the volume on which VSS is active?
That should minimize (may not altogether eliminate) the loss of restore
points.

This is a known issue regarding the defragmentation of Vista, WHS and
Server 2003 in the presence of VSS, when the volume has been formatted
with a cluster size less than 16kB.

Please see these links for more information.
'The Diskeeper Blog: DK'08 Feature Spotlight - VSS Compatibility Mode'
(http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archive...eature_sp.html)
'Shadow copies may be lost when you defragment a volume'
(http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;312067)



Best regards
------------------------------------
Representative
Diskeeper Corporation
--------------------------------------


--
DiskeeperRep


 




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