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Hi,
I would just like to make a statement to hope for a more streamlined deployment of Microsoft Windows. This would neccessarily apply to the upcoming version. While I am lenient to commend Microsoft on their efforts to make Windows as broadly accessible as well as safe, I have to say that I am greatly dismayed as an IT professional. So my wish is that you consider making available an option during the initial stages of installation, where I could choose what kind of user I am - and whether or not I am inflicted by some physical impediment. With near-perfect vision and matching motoric skills, I find the deeply embedded accessibility options to be enormously annoying features. I would like to see these totally omitted from 99.99% of all my Windows deployments. As an IT professional, I would also want features like UAC, Windows Defender, Welcome Center, the plethora of taskbar information popups to be disabled by default. The way Windows deploys out-of-the-box causes me a lot of extra customization and configuration to be as "clean" as both my basic clients and myself would want. I do hope to be heard, and I would imagine that I am not the only reasonably healthy IT professional out there who would like a slightly more sleek deployment. |
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Hi, Although many IT professionals would agree with you, the (any) operating system is not designed for IT professionals. The fact that you are an IT professional is for exactly this reason as if the operating system worked the way everyone wanted it to, then who would be the professionals? You have to understand that the operating system is desgined for the end-user, that's where Microsoft make their money. I'm willing to bet that as an IT professional you actually got your operating system through something like a volume program or something like that - in essense highly discounted or even free. Microsoft introduced features such as UAC, Defender and Welcome Center because the end-user community wanted it and by disabling it by default, they would be making only probably 5% of their target audience happy. It is possible to create a 'custom' installation disc of Vista which IT professionals tend to do - therefore you can disable all of those features that you want and have an 'IT professional' friendly installation source. Again, this is not saying you are wrong, but before requesting that Microsoft 'should' do something, think about who the target audience is... Best Regards, Jon --- "Bjoern Sandvik" Bjoern wrote in message ... Hi, I would just like to make a statement to hope for a more streamlined deployment of Microsoft Windows. This would neccessarily apply to the upcoming version. While I am lenient to commend Microsoft on their efforts to make Windows as broadly accessible as well as safe, I have to say that I am greatly dismayed as an IT professional. So my wish is that you consider making available an option during the initial stages of installation, where I could choose what kind of user I am - and whether or not I am inflicted by some physical impediment. With near-perfect vision and matching motoric skills, I find the deeply embedded accessibility options to be enormously annoying features. I would like to see these totally omitted from 99.99% of all my Windows deployments. As an IT professional, I would also want features like UAC, Windows Defender, Welcome Center, the plethora of taskbar information popups to be disabled by default. The way Windows deploys out-of-the-box causes me a lot of extra customization and configuration to be as "clean" as both my basic clients and myself would want. I do hope to be heard, and I would imagine that I am not the only reasonably healthy IT professional out there who would like a slightly more sleek deployment. |
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Hi, Jon, and thank you for adding to my thoughts!
First off, my initial post was not one of deep frustration. It is was more of a loud thought kind of thing. Also, I share your understanding that the target audience be the less knowledgable end-user. However, leaning a little back at what I said, I have yet to meet someone who appreciates the Ease of Access features (or the UAC for that matter, but that would be a discussion of how many times it should be acceptable for an intrusive pop-up to appear before people start complaining). All those things being said, I would be more in favor of bringing back a little bit of pre-installation interviewing. Braving a comparisong, the old Windows NT and 2000 styles were too technically demanding, and presented too many questions - leading to the inevitable next-next-next-finish approach. On the other hand, Vista became too easy and presumptuous. The blessed thing installs itself without the handful of interaction requests during the process, and this was a progress of leaps and bounds from my point of view. However, it does lead to a super-generic deployment of sorts. So, I am still suggesting that there be at least one set of pre-installation options that be formulated, both visually and verbally, in a way that anyone would understand and define themselves in. Such as bringing the choice of opting out of Ease of Access to the table.. And for (almost) sillyness' sake, it's really hard for a typical end-user to find Solitaire in Vista. Just ask my mom.. |
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In message Bjoern
Sandvik was claimed to have wrote: Also, I share your understanding that the target audience be the less knowledgable end-user. However, leaning a little back at what I said, I have yet to meet someone who appreciates the Ease of Access features (or the UAC for that matter, but that would be a discussion of how many times it should be acceptable for an intrusive pop-up to appear before people start complaining). Microsoft caters to both the less knowledgeable end-user, and the IT professional. Look to Vista deployment tools and a custom answer file if you want more control over the install. Personally, I haven't bothered, with both XP and Vista I use a 100% standard installation, then use group policies to pre-configure the computer to meet my needs. All those things being said, I would be more in favor of bringing back a little bit of pre-installation interviewing. Braving a comparisong, the old Windows NT and 2000 styles were too technically demanding, and presented too many questions - leading to the inevitable next-next-next-finish approach. On the other hand, Vista became too easy and presumptuous. The blessed thing installs itself without the handful of interaction requests during the process, and this was a progress of leaps and bounds from my point of view. And yet still stops in the middle to ask questions, then makes the user wait again. Microsoft is *so* close to getting this right, ask questions once, then the user should be hands off until the install finishes. However, it does lead to a super-generic deployment of sorts. That's the idea. So, I am still suggesting that there be at least one set of pre-installation options that be formulated, both visually and verbally, in a way that anyone would understand and define themselves in. Such as bringing the choice of opting out of Ease of Access to the table.. And for (almost) sillyness' sake, it's really hard for a typical end-user to find Solitaire in Vista. Just ask my mom.. Click the Orb, type "solitaire", press enter. |
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Okay, fine. You know best. Windows is perfect. (For the stupidity reference,
I was pointing towards aids like UAC and Defender. The attack on disabled people is on your tab, but hey.. I should have known better than to post anything in the first place.) |