I recommend that it be left alone to do the job it was designed for. There
should be no need to run it manually or to set aside specific time to defrag
a system. If not modified by the user, the service will run as needed during
downtime to do what it was designed for.

I look at it this way: Why would an office manager want to hire a
maintenance person to take out the trash in the middle of the day when
everyone's working? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come in while the
office wasn't in use to take care of the job without interfering with day to
day operations?

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi,

Just to add what others have said, defrag in Vista is an ongoing process.
It doesn't end, but rather constantly works to keep the system in top
shape. It runs as a low priority task so as not to interfere with the
system usage. If you use a third party program and let it run complete,
then first you aren't using the system for what you bought it for, and
second the minute you begin using it you will be re-fragmenting the
system until you decide to manually run it again.


So what do you recommend? I can't help wonder.....If it's always running
in the background why does it run as long as 30 minutes when manually run?


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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it
did in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will
take when I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no
one has a clue how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?

+Bob+ wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:45:41 -0400, "Rick Rogers"
wrote:


So what do you recommend? I can't help wonder.....If it's always running
in the background why does it run as long as 30 minutes when manually run?



I recommend that it be left alone to do the job it was designed for. There
should be no need to run it manually or to set aside specific time to defrag
a system. If not modified by the user, the service will run as needed during
downtime to do what it was designed for.

I look at it this way: Why would an office manager want to hire a
maintenance person to take out the trash in the middle of the day when
everyone's working? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come in while the
office wasn't in use to take care of the job without interfering with day to
day operations?


I look at it this way: If you had an office worker that was supposed
to be taking out the trash, but whenever you checked to see if the
trash can's were empty you found them full and getting in the way of
other employees doing their job; wouldn't you be concerned that the
cleaning worker wasn't really doing their job properly?

You might not want to watch them work, but you'd at least want to be
confident that the job was really being done and not impacting other
employees through negligence.

Now you're getting desperate.
Why are you even using Vista since it's apparent that you hate it?

Were that the case, I'd have the cleaner come through during lunch.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"+Bob+" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:45:41 -0400, "Rick Rogers"
wrote:


So what do you recommend? I can't help wonder.....If it's always
running
in the background why does it run as long as 30 minutes when manually
run?


I recommend that it be left alone to do the job it was designed for. There
should be no need to run it manually or to set aside specific time to
defrag
a system. If not modified by the user, the service will run as needed
during
downtime to do what it was designed for.

I look at it this way: Why would an office manager want to hire a
maintenance person to take out the trash in the middle of the day when
everyone's working? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come in while
the
office wasn't in use to take care of the job without interfering with day
to
day operations?

I look at it this way: If you had an office worker that was supposed
to be taking out the trash, but whenever you checked to see if the
trash can's were empty you found them full and getting in the way of
other employees doing their job; wouldn't you be concerned that the
cleaning worker wasn't really doing their job properly?

You might not want to watch them work, but you'd at least want to be
confident that the job was really being done and not impacting other
employees through negligence.

Robert Maskill wrote:
news.microsoft.com wrote:
Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as
it did in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it
will take when I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed
so no one has a clue how fragmented the drive is or how long it will
take?

Try this one...

http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag

Robert Maskill - G4PYR - Peterborough Cambridgeshire
MF Coastal Radio www.coastalradio.org.uk
Orton info community web site www.ortoninfo.co.uk
Nene Valley Railway Pictures www.nvrpics.org.uk/

I like Auslogics, too, but who would want to watch the screen display
showing progress? Windows multitasks and you can read your e-mail while
the program is defragging your disk.

Bill

"Bill Sharpe" wrote in message
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I like Auslogics, too, but who would want to watch the screen display
showing progress? Windows multitasks and you can read your e-mail while
the program is defragging your disk.

Bill

If it defrags automatically where is there a choice to run it at all? And
how can we know how often to run it if we can't know how defragged it gets
by the end of the week? And if it runs and keep the disk defragged... why
the hell does it run for 30 minutes or more when I run it manually? Why
change what isn't broken just to sell a new OS?