I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the activity on
the system as it appears that there may be some normal background service
that does not run in safe mode may be having trouble checking something on
the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files that may
be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on removing
the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only app
not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports &
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is has
done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same point when
Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash Screen comes up.
I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in safe mode so it wasn't
running those times I said the system was stable in safe mode). I stopped
MCE from auto startup in normal mode and the system has been starting up
fine since then. I'm going to mess around with having the PC running without
MCE running and with to see if it has anything to do with that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
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I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the activity on
the system as it appears that there may be some normal background service
that does not run in safe mode may be having trouble checking something on
the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files that
may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on removing
the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside though
I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only app
not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports &
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Can you run MCE if you start it manually after booting up in Normal Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is has
done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same point when
Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash Screen comes
up. I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in safe mode so it
wasn't running those times I said the system was stable in safe mode). I
stopped MCE from auto startup in normal mode and the system has been
starting up fine since then. I'm going to mess around with having the PC
running without MCE running and with to see if it has anything to do with
that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
...
I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the activity
on the system as it appears that there may be some normal background
service that does not run in safe mode may be having trouble checking
something on the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files that
may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on removing
the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside though
I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only app
not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports &
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash. Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.

D


"Curious" wrote in message
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Can you run MCE if you start it manually after booting up in Normal Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is
has done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same point
when Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash Screen
comes up. I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in safe mode
so it wasn't running those times I said the system was stable in safe
mode). I stopped MCE from auto startup in normal mode and the system has
been starting up fine since then. I'm going to mess around with having
the PC running without MCE running and with to see if it has anything to
do with that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
...
I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the activity
on the system as it appears that there may be some normal background
service that does not run in safe mode may be having trouble checking
something on the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files that
may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on
removing the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside
though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only app
not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports &
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Have you installed the following update?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955519
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash. Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.

D


"Curious" wrote in message
...
Can you run MCE if you start it manually after booting up in Normal Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is
has done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same point
when Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash Screen
comes up. I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in safe mode
so it wasn't running those times I said the system was stable in safe
mode). I stopped MCE from auto startup in normal mode and the system has
been starting up fine since then. I'm going to mess around with having
the PC running without MCE running and with to see if it has anything to
do with that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
...
I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the activity
on the system as it appears that there may be some normal background
service that does not run in safe mode may be having trouble checking
something on the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files
that may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on
removing the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside
though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only
app not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports
&
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Actually I think it just installed today. Any reason why you bring it up?


"Curious" wrote in message
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Have you installed the following update?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955519
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash.
Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.

D


"Curious" wrote in message
...
Can you run MCE if you start it manually after booting up in Normal
Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is
has done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same point
when Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash Screen
comes up. I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in safe mode
so it wasn't running those times I said the system was stable in safe
mode). I stopped MCE from auto startup in normal mode and the system
has been starting up fine since then. I'm going to mess around with
having the PC running without MCE running and with to see if it has
anything to do with that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
...
I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the
activity on the system as it appears that there may be some normal
background service that does not run in safe mode may be having
trouble checking something on the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files
that may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on
removing the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside
though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only
app not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports
&
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Don Deacon;114344 Wrote:
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on
removing the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside
though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only app
not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem reports
&
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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Prob is wit the PSU on 12v rails u get only 15Amps and ths it not
sufficient for the rig to run smoothly.. try goin for a VIP 500W or
CM500W or a corsair vx450 just to be on safe side...Chek out the link
for ur power supply.. only 15A on +12v rails..

'Kingwin AP-450 ATX 400W Power Supply SATA connectors 120mm Fan Fan
speed Control [AP-450]'
(http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?...od_id=PWKWAP40)


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Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash. Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.


Don't bother with all this stuff. You've been told already: it's a pure
hardware problem. Almost certainly the power supply over-current
protection.

Fit a new one and the problem will go away!!!

SteveT

I have already said I know it is likely hardware that needs to be replaced
but am trying to get down to what. I don't think just putting in a bigger
power supply is the right thing to do if is is something else triggering the
power supply to go into overload (my PS supposedly has overload protection
up to 28A on 12V).

"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash.
Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.


Don't bother with all this stuff. You've been told already: it's a pure
hardware problem. Almost certainly the power supply over-current
protection.

Fit a new one and the problem will go away!!!

SteveT

Just to be sure that you have the latest version installed since it is
always not clear what all of the fixes in a rollup release are.
I still would like to remove or disable your nic card and disconnect your
Ethernet cable you don't want both of them active and I would like to
confirm that your get a failure in normal mode with no network background
services potentially active. Also removing the NIC card may lower the draw
on your power supply.
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
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Actually I think it just installed today. Any reason why you bring it up?


"Curious" wrote in message
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Have you installed the following update?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955519
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Yep. I launched it after boot and left it a while without a crash.
Started
it up and it crashed about an hour later. This isn't really definitive
though as once the PC booted successfully it could run for quite a while
without crashing, even with MCE running. I'm going to leave it for an
extended period of time without MCE running to see if it will crash.

D


"Curious" wrote in message
...
Can you run MCE if you start it manually after booting up in Normal
Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Well this has been crashing all afternoon (every time I restart and is
has done it about 7-8 times) and I noticed it crashes at the same
point when Windows launches and shortly after the Media Center Splash
Screen comes up. I booted into safe mode (MCE doesn't auto launch in
safe mode so it wasn't running those times I said the system was
stable in safe mode). I stopped MCE from auto startup in normal mode
and the system has been starting up fine since then. I'm going to mess
around with having the PC running without MCE running and with to see
if it has anything to do with that.

D

"Curious" wrote in message
...
I suggest testing without any network connection to reduce the
activity on the system as it appears that there may be some normal
background service that does not run in safe mode may be having
trouble checking something on the internet.
Does task manager give you any indication of other process or files
that may be running in normal mode that are not running in safe Mode?
"Don Deacon" wrote in message
...
Thanks,
Lots of good questions, here is my config:
Home-built PC with the following:
Kingwin Supernova Case
Kingwin AP-450 Power Supply
MSI K8NGM2 Motherboard, using the onboard video
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
1 GB RAM
Hauppauge MCE500 PVR Card
250 GB SATA Drive
Linksys Wireless PCI NIC
Vista Home Premium SP1

I am using is strictly as a Media Server/PVR. I was planning on
removing the
Wireless NIC as I not have Gigabit Ethernet going to it but haven't
gotten
around to it yet (but will now that I have it stripped open).

To address some of the other questions, it was a bit dusty inside
though I
have thoroughly cleaned it and it is still crashing. Also, the only
app not
running in Safe mode is media center itself, I was connected to the
network
and in Safe Mode with Networking. Nothing shows up in problem
reports &
solutions (no problems reported or solutions).

D



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