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I have a Windows XP machine (sp3) and a Vista machine in the same workgroup
(only these two on the network). Both machines have shared folders and the XP machine has a shared printer. The XP machine can see the shared folders on the Vista machine however the Vista machine cannot find the XP machine or the printer on the XP machine. Network discover is on permissions are set for everyone full control, the Vista machine can ping the XP machine. I hope someone can tell me what I missed on the Vista machine to allow it to connect to the XP printer. Thanks |
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Did you assign shared permissions and NTFS security permission to the users who are to share that resource? I usually use the same user and password on each computer. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney 'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com) |
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All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions.
Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. "SCSIraidGURU" wrote: Did you assign shared permissions and NTFS security permission to the users who are to share that resource? I usually use the same user and password on each computer. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney 'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com) |
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Terry wrote:
All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions. Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. Assign passwords and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I'd suspect a firewall misconfiguration issue. See general networking troubleshooting below. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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I'm having a very similar problem, and was hoping to piggy-back on this
posting. All I want to do is access folders on my XP desktop from a Vista laptop, using a wireless network. My wireless network is currently protected via WEP, and as soon as I get everything working, I"m planning to upgrade the security to one of the other settings. I reviewed Malke's response, and followed the linked instructions on configuring Vista to allow file and printer sharing. I skipped the section on setting up shared files on the Vista computer, since I'm not currently interested in that, and went to the section on "Accessing a shared folder or printer with Windows Vista." The first step calls for finding the computer you are interested in, but I don't see my desktop computer (the one I'm trying to access). All I see are my laptop (the one with Vista) and my wireless router. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Todd "Malke" wrote: Terry wrote: All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions. Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. Assign passwords and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I'd suspect a firewall misconfiguration issue. See general networking troubleshooting below. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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I was able to get the sharing to work, the fault was not the Vista machine.
On the XP machine I had to remove and re install "file and printer sharing" everything now works fine. I did not have add or change passwords. "T. Jenkins" wrote: I'm having a very similar problem, and was hoping to piggy-back on this posting. All I want to do is access folders on my XP desktop from a Vista laptop, using a wireless network. My wireless network is currently protected via WEP, and as soon as I get everything working, I"m planning to upgrade the security to one of the other settings. I reviewed Malke's response, and followed the linked instructions on configuring Vista to allow file and printer sharing. I skipped the section on setting up shared files on the Vista computer, since I'm not currently interested in that, and went to the section on "Accessing a shared folder or printer with Windows Vista." The first step calls for finding the computer you are interested in, but I don't see my desktop computer (the one I'm trying to access). All I see are my laptop (the one with Vista) and my wireless router. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Todd "Malke" wrote: Terry wrote: All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions. Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. Assign passwords and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I'd suspect a firewall misconfiguration issue. See general networking troubleshooting below. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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I'm still struggling with this; seems like it should be a simple thing. Can
you tell me how you removed and reinstalled the file and printer sharing? I'd like to try that. Todd "Terry" wrote: I was able to get the sharing to work, the fault was not the Vista machine. On the XP machine I had to remove and re install "file and printer sharing" everything now works fine. I did not have add or change passwords. "T. Jenkins" wrote: I'm having a very similar problem, and was hoping to piggy-back on this posting. All I want to do is access folders on my XP desktop from a Vista laptop, using a wireless network. My wireless network is currently protected via WEP, and as soon as I get everything working, I"m planning to upgrade the security to one of the other settings. I reviewed Malke's response, and followed the linked instructions on configuring Vista to allow file and printer sharing. I skipped the section on setting up shared files on the Vista computer, since I'm not currently interested in that, and went to the section on "Accessing a shared folder or printer with Windows Vista." The first step calls for finding the computer you are interested in, but I don't see my desktop computer (the one I'm trying to access). All I see are my laptop (the one with Vista) and my wireless router. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Todd "Malke" wrote: Terry wrote: All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions. Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. Assign passwords and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I'd suspect a firewall misconfiguration issue. See general networking troubleshooting below. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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I simply went to the properities of the network connection on the XP machine.
Un installed file sharing, re booted then installed the same. Added the shared folder and printer. Now the Vista could see the XP "T. Jenkins" wrote: I'm still struggling with this; seems like it should be a simple thing. Can you tell me how you removed and reinstalled the file and printer sharing? I'd like to try that. Todd "Terry" wrote: I was able to get the sharing to work, the fault was not the Vista machine. On the XP machine I had to remove and re install "file and printer sharing" everything now works fine. I did not have add or change passwords. "T. Jenkins" wrote: I'm having a very similar problem, and was hoping to piggy-back on this posting. All I want to do is access folders on my XP desktop from a Vista laptop, using a wireless network. My wireless network is currently protected via WEP, and as soon as I get everything working, I"m planning to upgrade the security to one of the other settings. I reviewed Malke's response, and followed the linked instructions on configuring Vista to allow file and printer sharing. I skipped the section on setting up shared files on the Vista computer, since I'm not currently interested in that, and went to the section on "Accessing a shared folder or printer with Windows Vista." The first step calls for finding the computer you are interested in, but I don't see my desktop computer (the one I'm trying to access). All I see are my laptop (the one with Vista) and my wireless router. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Todd "Malke" wrote: Terry wrote: All shared folders on BOTH machines have everyone full control permissions. Both machines have the same user ID but neither have a password to log on. Assign passwords and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I'd suspect a firewall misconfiguration issue. See general networking troubleshooting below. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |