Thanks, John.

Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I
built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was
afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than
using it for XP work.

So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives?

Ed

"John Barnes" wrote in message
...
It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have
a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you may
find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then
reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting
the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen.

"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
John,

Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it
I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new
simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation
CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format
it. When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD.
However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the
XP MBR.

The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove
the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the
files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through
the installation process again from the beginning.

To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.


Any ideas on where to go from here?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite
expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows
me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need
2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this
link from my website:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creatin...ith_vmware.htm

The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the
same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.


--

--
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free
space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If
you want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John. That worked.

Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP
Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has
Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and
have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like
an unnecessarily awkward procedure.

Ed


"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro
and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second
versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to
use command lines to edit BCDedit.

--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went
fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just
an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen
offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one
seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot without
intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot
option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.

From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista
has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that
can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?

TIA

Ed

It's working! Here's what I did.

You will recall that it would not boot up from the HD after time-out of the
"Press any key to boot from CD" message during installation of XP. To get
something on the screen again I booted from the Vista installation DVD and
selected Repair to Vista, selecting the Startup option therein. This
allowed Vista to boot off the HD. There was no 2nd boot option offered.

Once Vista booted I opened the Disk manager and changed the partion on which
I had installed XP to Active.

Then I ran VistaBootPro and did Diagnostics. That resulted in an "earlier
version of Windows" to appear on the Manage OS Entries dialog. I changed the
name to "XP Pro" and clicked Apply.

Then I rebooted, and got the boot menue offering Vista or XP Pro. I selected
Xp Pro. It then booted from the HD and asked me to put the XP installation
CD back in. It then went on to finish loading all the other stuff for XP and
the other initial setup stuff. It worked!

I really don't know if it was setting the partion Active, running
diagnostic, or both that did the trick.

Only problem now is the XP installation process didn't identify some of my
hardware, such as the onboard network interface. I'll have to work on that,
perhaps digging out some installation CDs or whatever. Then comes loading my
software that doesn't work well with Vista.... bigger job I expect.

Thanks for all the help.

Ed





"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a
message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or
DVD).' You only do this once, that is when you first start the
installation. The second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and
let windows continue. If you press any key on the second reboot then, yes,
the operating system, will start installing all over again. If you ignore
the 'press any key' then the installation continues. The only time you
take the CD out of the drive is when installation has completely finished;
at which time you should see the XP desktop on your screen.

In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding' the
operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to to
see if there is actually operating system files on it?

I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate
partition and that installed went without issue.


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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
John,

Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it
I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new
simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation
CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format
it. When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD.
However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the
XP MBR.

The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove
the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the
files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through
the installation process again from the beginning.

To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.


Any ideas on where to go from here?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite
expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows
me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need
2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this
link from my website:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creatin...ith_vmware.htm

The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the
same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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for
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free
space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If
you want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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accuracy,
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liable for
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of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John. That worked.

Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP
Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has
Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and
have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like
an unnecessarily awkward procedure.

Ed


"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro
and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second
versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to
use command lines to edit BCDedit.

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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of any
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accuracy,
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liable for
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out of the
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mail/post..


"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went
fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just
an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen
offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one
seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot without
intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot
option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.

From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista
has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that
can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?

TIA

Ed

Hi Ed,

I'm glad you got it working. Actually setting the partition to 'active' did
the trick:-)

--

--
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
It's working! Here's what I did.

You will recall that it would not boot up from the HD after time-out of
the "Press any key to boot from CD" message during installation of XP. To
get something on the screen again I booted from the Vista installation DVD
and selected Repair to Vista, selecting the Startup option therein. This
allowed Vista to boot off the HD. There was no 2nd boot option offered.

Once Vista booted I opened the Disk manager and changed the partion on
which I had installed XP to Active.

Then I ran VistaBootPro and did Diagnostics. That resulted in an "earlier
version of Windows" to appear on the Manage OS Entries dialog. I changed
the name to "XP Pro" and clicked Apply.

Then I rebooted, and got the boot menue offering Vista or XP Pro. I
selected Xp Pro. It then booted from the HD and asked me to put the XP
installation CD back in. It then went on to finish loading all the other
stuff for XP and the other initial setup stuff. It worked!

I really don't know if it was setting the partion Active, running
diagnostic, or both that did the trick.

Only problem now is the XP installation process didn't identify some of my
hardware, such as the onboard network interface. I'll have to work on
that, perhaps digging out some installation CDs or whatever. Then comes
loading my software that doesn't work well with Vista.... bigger job I
expect.

Thanks for all the help.

Ed





"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a
message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or
DVD).' You only do this once, that is when you first start the
installation. The second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and
let windows continue. If you press any key on the second reboot then,
yes, the operating system, will start installing all over again. If you
ignore the 'press any key' then the installation continues. The only time
you take the CD out of the drive is when installation has completely
finished; at which time you should see the XP desktop on your screen.

In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding'
the operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to
to see if there is actually operating system files on it?

I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate
partition and that installed went without issue.


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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for
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
John,

Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it
I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new
simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro
installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the
installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to
reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD.
Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR.

The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove
the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the
files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go
through the installation process again from the beginning.

To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.


Any ideas on where to go from here?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite
expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows
me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need
2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see
this link from my website:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creatin...ith_vmware.htm

The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the
same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
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mail/post..


"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free
space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If
you want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


--

--
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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John. That worked.

Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP
Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has
Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and
have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like
an unnecessarily awkward procedure.

Ed


"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run
VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove
the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats
having to use command lines to edit BCDedit.

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went
fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really
just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot
screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the
first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot
without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second
boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.

From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista
has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that
can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?

TIA

Ed

Yes. There would be a boot sector on both the XP and Vista drives.

"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John.

Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I
built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was
afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than
using it for XP work.

So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives?

Ed

"John Barnes" wrote in message
...
It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have
a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you
may find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then
reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting
the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen.

"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
John,

Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it
I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new
simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro
installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the
installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to
reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD.
Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR.

The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove
the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the
files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go
through the installation process again from the beginning.

To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.


Any ideas on where to go from here?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite
expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows
me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need
2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see
this link from my website:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creatin...ith_vmware.htm

The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the
same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free
space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If
you want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John. That worked.

Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP
Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has
Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and
have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like
an unnecessarily awkward procedure.

Ed


"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
...
You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run
VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove
the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats
having to use command lines to edit BCDedit.

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

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of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
accuracy,
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liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising
out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
this
mail/post..


"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
...
As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went
fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really
just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot
screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the
first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot
without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second
boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.

From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista
has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that
can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?

TIA

Ed

The additional advantage of this method is you have two bootable drives and
systems. If the boot drive fails when installed with only only one bootable
drive, nothing works. This way you can boot into the other system to assist
with repairs. You can still use startup repair in Vista to give you the
Vista boot menu.

"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
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Thanks, John.

Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I
built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was
afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than
using it for XP work.

So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives?

Ed

"John Barnes" wrote in message
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It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have
a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you
may find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then
reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting
the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen.

"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
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John,

Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it
I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new
simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro
installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the
installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to
reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD.
Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR.

The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove
the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the
files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go
through the installation process again from the beginning.

To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.


Any ideas on where to go from here?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
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Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite
expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows
me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need
2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see
this link from my website:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creatin...ith_vmware.htm

The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the
same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.


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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
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Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free
space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?

Ed

"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
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Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If
you want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
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Thanks, John. That worked.

Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP
Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has
Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and
have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like
an unnecessarily awkward procedure.

Ed


"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message
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You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run
VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove
the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats
having to use command lines to edit BCDedit.

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"Ed Sowell" wrote in message
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As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went
fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really
just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot
screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the
first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot
without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second
boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.

From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista
has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that
can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?

TIA

Ed