"DDW" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:43:40 -0500, "Dave Lee"
wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion. Can you give me a reference to how to go about
reseting drivers from safe mode? I can only get a command line - nothing
else. I have never seen SAFE MODE run, but am I supposed to see clickable
icons somewhere? I don't get anything but a few SAFE MODE labels on a
black
screen. I can only run from the command line.

Right after your computer goes through POST (the first black screen
with text on it) and before Windows starts to load, start tapping F8.
When you get the screen with the choices, choose SAFE MODE.


DDW
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I'd been running SAFE MODE since I ran into this problem. But the SAFE MODE
that I was getting was not totally functional (basically all that worked was
the command line).

For now that problem is gone - for now.

Thanks.

dave

"Dave Lee" wrote:


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

Open the registry editor from Task Manager (applications tab/click 'new
task') and check the contents of the shell string in this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

It should be just 'explorer.exe'. I suspect that you will find it is
appended with additional items. If so, alter it, close and reboot the
machine.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Of coures one of my own rules to to never mess with regedit, but ... :-)

Under that KEY I've got tons of stuff and none of it is iexplorer.exe. I
really don't understand of of this but what you are suggesting seems
inconsistent with what I am seeing.

Check again. With the key he mentioned highlighted, look in the right
portion of the window and find "shell". It's there.

Richie Hardwick

"Richie Hardwick" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote:


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

Open the registry editor from Task Manager (applications tab/click 'new
task') and check the contents of the shell string in this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

It should be just 'explorer.exe'. I suspect that you will find it is
appended with additional items. If so, alter it, close and reboot the
machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Of coures one of my own rules to to never mess with regedit, but ... :-)

Under that KEY I've got tons of stuff and none of it is iexplorer.exe. I
really don't understand of of this but what you are suggesting seems
inconsistent with what I am seeing.

Check again. With the key he mentioned highlighted, look in the right
portion of the window and find "shell". It's there.

Richie Hardwick

Yep - missed it. Thanks for catching that.

Let me be sure of what I am hearing here. I should delete all the keys under
WINLOGON except for "Shell ... REG_SZ .... explorer.exe:. I just want to be
really sure here because of lack of knowledge on my part. I've got 20'ish
entries and "WINLOGON" seems pretty fundamental from my limited
understanding. At a glance you can tell that many of these are not so
important (like "LegalNotice Text"). Others (such as userinit) I'm not so
sure. So I'm being extremely cautious here.

OTOH, given my symptoms I can understand why this particular entry should be
viewed with some suspicion.

Thanks again for the help.

dave

ps. the UserInit entry has only userinit.exe listed so I assume that
userinit.exe would run even if nothing was there - but I honestly just don't
know that much about this stuff.

"Dave Lee" wrote in message
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"Richie Hardwick" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote:


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

Open the registry editor from Task Manager (applications tab/click
'new
task') and check the contents of the shell string in this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

It should be just 'explorer.exe'. I suspect that you will find it
is
appended with additional items. If so, alter it, close and reboot
the
machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Of coures one of my own rules to to never mess with regedit, but ...
:-)

Under that KEY I've got tons of stuff and none of it is
iexplorer.exe. I
really don't understand of of this but what you are suggesting seems
inconsistent with what I am seeing.

Check again. With the key he mentioned highlighted, look in the
right
portion of the window and find "shell". It's there.

Richie Hardwick

Yep - missed it. Thanks for catching that.

Let me be sure of what I am hearing here. I should delete all the keys
under WINLOGON except for "Shell ... REG_SZ .... explorer.exe:. I just
want to be really sure here because of lack of knowledge on my part.
I've got 20'ish entries and "WINLOGON" seems pretty fundamental from
my limited understanding. At a glance you can tell that many of these
are not so important (like "LegalNotice Text"). Others (such as
userinit) I'm not so sure. So I'm being extremely cautious here.

OTOH, given my symptoms I can understand why this particular entry
should be viewed with some suspicion.

Thanks again for the help.

dave

ps. the UserInit entry has only userinit.exe listed so I assume that
userinit.exe would run even if nothing was there - but I honestly just
don't know that much about this stuff.

Dave, do NOT delete the other keys under Winlogon. There are a bunch of
keys that could, and indeeed should, be there. On my system there are
probably 2 dozen keys and a half dozen additional folders. This is
normal.

It looks like Rick was just wanting to make sure that the specific key
"Shell" had the correct value of "Explorer.exe" and nothing else. Seems
like rather a long shot for your problem, but worth checking. It looks
like it is OK from what you've posted.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something
big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote in message
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"Richie Hardwick" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote:


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

Open the registry editor from Task Manager (applications tab/click
'new
task') and check the contents of the shell string in this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

It should be just 'explorer.exe'. I suspect that you will find it is
appended with additional items. If so, alter it, close and reboot the
machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Of coures one of my own rules to to never mess with regedit, but ... :-)

Under that KEY I've got tons of stuff and none of it is iexplorer.exe. I
really don't understand of of this but what you are suggesting seems
inconsistent with what I am seeing.

Check again. With the key he mentioned highlighted, look in the right
portion of the window and find "shell". It's there.

Richie Hardwick

Yep - missed it. Thanks for catching that.

Let me be sure of what I am hearing here. I should delete all the keys
under WINLOGON except for "Shell ... REG_SZ .... explorer.exe:. I just
want to be really sure here because of lack of knowledge on my part. I've
got 20'ish entries and "WINLOGON" seems pretty fundamental from my
limited understanding. At a glance you can tell that many of these are
not so important (like "LegalNotice Text"). Others (such as userinit) I'm
not so sure. So I'm being extremely cautious here.

OTOH, given my symptoms I can understand why this particular entry should
be viewed with some suspicion.

Thanks again for the help.

dave

ps. the UserInit entry has only userinit.exe listed so I assume that
userinit.exe would run even if nothing was there - but I honestly just
don't know that much about this stuff.

Dave, do NOT delete the other keys under Winlogon. There are a bunch of
keys that could, and indeeed should, be there. On my system there are
probably 2 dozen keys and a half dozen additional folders. This is
normal.

It looks like Rick was just wanting to make sure that the specific key
"Shell" had the correct value of "Explorer.exe" and nothing else. Seems
like rather a long shot for your problem, but worth checking. It looks
like it is OK from what you've posted.

--
Zaphod

Thanks, Zaphod. After reading Rick's note carefully I believe that you are
correct. The additional keys that he was referring to were in the SHELL
string (and I have nothing else there) not in WINLOGON.

Thanks for the clarification.

dave

Right. All I wanted you to check was the shell string under that key. Do not
mess with anything else in there.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Dave Lee" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote in message
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"Richie Hardwick" wrote in message
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"Dave Lee" wrote:


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
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Hi Dave,

Open the registry editor from Task Manager (applications tab/click
'new
task') and check the contents of the shell string in this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

It should be just 'explorer.exe'. I suspect that you will find it is
appended with additional items. If so, alter it, close and reboot the
machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Of coures one of my own rules to to never mess with regedit, but ...
:-)

Under that KEY I've got tons of stuff and none of it is iexplorer.exe.
I
really don't understand of of this but what you are suggesting seems
inconsistent with what I am seeing.

Check again. With the key he mentioned highlighted, look in the right
portion of the window and find "shell". It's there.

Richie Hardwick

Yep - missed it. Thanks for catching that.

Let me be sure of what I am hearing here. I should delete all the keys
under WINLOGON except for "Shell ... REG_SZ .... explorer.exe:. I just
want to be really sure here because of lack of knowledge on my part.
I've got 20'ish entries and "WINLOGON" seems pretty fundamental from my
limited understanding. At a glance you can tell that many of these are
not so important (like "LegalNotice Text"). Others (such as userinit)
I'm not so sure. So I'm being extremely cautious here.

OTOH, given my symptoms I can understand why this particular entry
should be viewed with some suspicion.

Thanks again for the help.

dave

ps. the UserInit entry has only userinit.exe listed so I assume that
userinit.exe would run even if nothing was there - but I honestly just
don't know that much about this stuff.

Dave, do NOT delete the other keys under Winlogon. There are a bunch of
keys that could, and indeeed should, be there. On my system there are
probably 2 dozen keys and a half dozen additional folders. This is
normal.

It looks like Rick was just wanting to make sure that the specific key
"Shell" had the correct value of "Explorer.exe" and nothing else. Seems
like rather a long shot for your problem, but worth checking. It looks
like it is OK from what you've posted.

--
Zaphod

Thanks, Zaphod. After reading Rick's note carefully I believe that you are
correct. The additional keys that he was referring to were in the SHELL
string (and I have nothing else there) not in WINLOGON.

Thanks for the clarification.

dave