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Common Vista Problem - Network printing



 
 
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Old October 29th 08, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
John Monahan
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Default Common Vista Problem - Network printing

No wonder people are frustrated going to Vista from XP! Here is my latest
issue:-

I want to run a few printers from my Windows Home Server (WHS). As a typical
example I loaded on to WHS the latest HP WHS driver for a HP 4050T LaserJet
printer. Its their newest "Universal driver" whatever that actually means.
Anyway I can print from the WHS computer immediately and perfectly fine.
Likewise if I assign any XP machine the WHS as a network printer and it too
prints fine and immediately.

Here's the problem.... if I try to connect this exact same printer up to my
Vista (business) machine, first it takes about 5 minutes to configure. It
then takes forever to print even the test page. I have a gadget that shows
net activity. "Signals" are sent spaced apart 5-20 seconds apart between the
two computers. I read extensively over the web forums and tried the obvious
things such as:-

Disconnecting the Vista firewall - No difference

With gpedit.msc etc enabling the rendering of print jobs on the server,
(normally unconfigured) - No difference.

In "Add printer" instead of adding the printer as a network printer, adding
the printer as a local port using Serverrinter name. - No difference.

I can even run the printer from a TrendNet TE100-P21 Print server box. It
runs fine with Vista as well. This appears to be a problem with another HP
Printer (a 5600), as well. Prints fine as a network printer with XP, five
minutes per page with Vista!

There seems to be something slowing the Vista communication to the
printer(so) on WHS to a crawl. This is not the case for any other
communication between Vista and WHS (e.g. file transfers).

I have spent an enormous amount of time and frustrating trying to figure out
what the problem is. I would really appreciate some help from experts here.

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Old October 30th 08, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
RehabMan[_2_]
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Default Common Vista Problem - Network printing


John Monahan;1056642 Wrote:
...

Anyway I can print from the WHS computer immediately and perfectly
fine.
Likewise if I assign any XP machine the WHS as a network printer and it
too
prints fine and immediately.

Here's the problem.... if I try to connect this exact same printer up
to my
Vista (business) machine, first it takes about 5 minutes to configure.
It
then takes forever to print even the test page. I have a gadget that
shows
net activity. "Signals" are sent spaced apart 5-20 seconds apart
between the two computers. I read extensively over the web forums and
tried the obvious things such as:-

...

In "Add printer" instead of adding the printer as a network printer,
adding
the printer as a local port using Serverrinter name. - No difference.


I had a very similar problem trying to share a printer between two
Vista machines (one desktop, one laptop). In my case, adding as a local
printer fixed the problem. So you might want to double check it... Only
difference is I set the printer up as a local printer first (I even
connected it with the USB port), then after it was all setup and
working, I disconnected it, hooked it back to the server, then went into
properties (Ports... Add Port) for the printer and changed the local
port to the UNC name at the server (\\server\Deskjet722).

That workaround worked for me, but you're right... if you go through
the obvious way, everything takes ages to complete (even switching
between different property pages on the client's printer properties
takes forever and a day).

Good luck.


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Old October 30th 08, 08:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Gordon[_5_]
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Default Common Vista Problem - Network printing

"John Monahan" wrote in message
...
No wonder people are frustrated going to Vista from XP! Here is my latest
issue:-

I want to run a few printers from my Windows Home Server (WHS). As a
typical example I loaded on to WHS the latest HP WHS driver for a HP 4050T
LaserJet printer.


Lurking in this group, it seems to me that most of the network printing
problems with Vista seem to be with HP printers.....I have a Samsung CLP
300N connected direct to my network (not through a server I have to admit)
and have had no real problems at all in printing to it from my Vista
machine - and that's with wireless as well! I wonder if it's something about
HP printers that Vista doesn't like.....

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Old October 30th 08, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
John Monahan
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Default Common Vista Problem - Network printing

Thanks so much RehabMan. What you suggested worked great! I now have two HP
printers, a HP 4050T Laserjet (B&W) and a HP DeskJet 5860 (Color) working
perfectly from the WHS. I can send print jobs from any Vista or XP machine
immediately with no problems. Your help saved me no end of frustration
thanks again.


"RehabMan" wrote in message
...

John Monahan;1056642 Wrote:
...

Anyway I can print from the WHS computer immediately and perfectly
fine.
Likewise if I assign any XP machine the WHS as a network printer and it
too
prints fine and immediately.

Here's the problem.... if I try to connect this exact same printer up
to my
Vista (business) machine, first it takes about 5 minutes to configure.
It
then takes forever to print even the test page. I have a gadget that
shows
net activity. "Signals" are sent spaced apart 5-20 seconds apart
between the two computers. I read extensively over the web forums and
tried the obvious things such as:-

...

In "Add printer" instead of adding the printer as a network printer,
adding
the printer as a local port using Serverrinter name. - No difference.


I had a very similar problem trying to share a printer between two
Vista machines (one desktop, one laptop). In my case, adding as a local
printer fixed the problem. So you might want to double check it... Only
difference is I set the printer up as a local printer first (I even
connected it with the USB port), then after it was all setup and
working, I disconnected it, hooked it back to the server, then went into
properties (Ports... Add Port) for the printer and changed the local
port to the UNC name at the server (\\server\Deskjet722).

That workaround worked for me, but you're right... if you go through
the obvious way, everything takes ages to complete (even switching
between different property pages on the client's printer properties
takes forever and a day).

Good luck.


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RehabMan
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com


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Old October 30th 08, 09:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
DDW[_3_]
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Default Common Vista Problem - Network printing

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:08:08 -0000, "Gordon"
wrote:

Lurking in this group, it seems to me that most of the network printing
problems with Vista seem to be with HP printers.....I have a Samsung CLP
300N connected direct to my network (not through a server I have to admit)
and have had no real problems at all in printing to it from my Vista
machine - and that's with wireless as well! I wonder if it's something about
HP printers that Vista doesn't like.....


It's probably more related to the fact that HP sells a LOT of
printers.

DDW
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