I decided to get Vista home premium 64 bit...now I think I am regretting
it.

In XP there is an option to setup a connection to an "always on"
broadband connection i.e. no username/password required.

Much to my chagrin I have found my Vista only has PPPoe broadband
connection rendering my new PC pretty much pointless.

Since "help" also only mentions PPoe it looks like I have had it
because I cannot get it to work from my wireless router either.

Can anyone confirm this so I can ditch my Vista and go back to XP.


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zipdogso

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:48:33 -0600, zipdogso
wrote:

I decided to get Vista home premium 64 bit...now I think I am regretting
it.

In XP there is an option to setup a connection to an "always on"
broadband connection i.e. no username/password required.

Much to my chagrin I have found my Vista only has PPPoe broadband
connection rendering my new PC pretty much pointless.

Since "help" also only mentions PPoe it looks like I have had it
because I cannot get it to work from my wireless router either.

Can anyone confirm this so I can ditch my Vista and go back to XP.

Vista has the same networking capabilities as XP.

If you've connected your DSL modem to a wireless router, you can
access the Internet through the router using a wired or wireless
network connection on Vista.

If you don't use a router and your DSL modem has an Ethernet output,
just connect the DSL modem to Vista's wired network adapter. You
don't have to set up a special connection for it.
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No I haven't got DSL I have an "always on" broadband that does not
require a username/password, and try as I might Vista home premium 64
will not recognise it and I cannot connect and vista refuses to give me
an option to connect either.

The only broadband option I am given is to connect by PPPoe with a
username and password, which I obviously can't do.

I can usually (and often do.) connect anybody's XP PC to use my 20G
service but Vista is having none of it.


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zipdogso

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:54:45 -0600, zipdogso
wrote:
I decided to get Vista home premium 64 bit...now I think I am regretting
it.

In XP there is an option to setup a connection to an "always on"
broadband connection i.e. no username/password required.

Much to my chagrin I have found my Vista only has PPPoe broadband
connection rendering my new PC pretty much pointless.

Since "help" also only mentions PPoe it looks like I have had it
because I cannot get it to work from my wireless router either.

Can anyone confirm this so I can ditch my Vista and go back to XP.

Vista has the same networking capabilities as XP.

If you've connected your DSL modem to a wireless router, you can
access the Internet through the router using a wired or wireless
network connection on Vista.

If you don't use a router and your DSL modem has an Ethernet output,
just connect the DSL modem to Vista's wired network adapter. You
don't have to set up a special connection for it.

No I haven't got DSL I have an "always on" broadband that does not
require a username/password, and try as I might Vista home premium 64
will not recognise it and I cannot connect and vista refuses to give me
an option to connect either.

The only broadband option I am given is to connect by PPPoe with a
username and password, which I obviously can't do.

I can usually (and often do.) connect anybody's XP PC to use my 20G
service but Vista is having none of it.

I'm sorry that I misunderstand about DSL.

For an "always on" broadband connection, there's no need to set up a
special connection. You haven't said what type of device it uses or
how it connects to your computer. Assuming that it uses an Ethernet
connection, just plug it into the Vista computer's wired Ethernet
port.

If you'll give us the connection details and what exactly happens when
you try to use it with Vista, someone can surely help you get it to
work.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Well i couldn't edit my post, my rushed off reply was not great.

I have a cable modem 20Mb 24/7 service that does not require a
username/password. I just plug the modem into the NIC, the NIC
indicators show it working, Vista can see the network but hasn't a clue
what it is and will steadfastly NOT allow me to connect. I have tried
repair the network, reasigning the IP and everything else I can think of
to no avail. Vista insists I use PPPoe, I cannot, I do not have a
username/password.

Usually with a XP machine, ANY XP, from any where belonging to anyone
all you need to do is unplug the modem for 5 minutes then plug the modem
into the NIC, That is how I update machines I build for people. I do it
all the time....VISTA IS NOT THE SAME. When you try to connect and you
tick "show me all connections even those not set up" all it gives me is
PPPoe or "dial up modem" neither of which are any use to me.

I have contacted my ISP I havent heard back yet but I am just about to
erase vista and chuck the disc out the window 'cause I just spent 2 days
just trying to connnect my broadband and i don't have many more ideas or
much hair !!!!!


Oh...can edit my post...don't why I couldn't before !!


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zipdogso

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:30:36 -0600, zipdogso
wrote:


Well i couldn't edit my post, my rushed off reply was not great.

I have a cable modem 20Mb 24/7 service that does not require a
username/password. I just plug the modem into the NIC, the NIC
indicators show it working, Vista can see the network but hasn't a clue
what it is and will steadfastly NOT allow me to connect. I have tried
repair the network, reasigning the IP and everything else I can think of
to no avail. Vista insists I use PPPoe, I cannot, I do not have a
username/password.

Usually with a XP machine, ANY XP, from any where belonging to anyone
all you need to do is unplug the modem for 5 minutes then plug the modem
into the NIC, That is how I update machines I build for people. I do it
all the time....VISTA IS NOT THE SAME. When you try to connect and you
tick "show me all connections even those not set up" all it gives me is
PPPoe or "dial up modem" neither of which are any use to me.

I have contacted my ISP I havent heard back yet but I am just about to
erase vista and chuck the disc out the window 'cause I just spent 2 days
just trying to connnect my broadband and i don't have many more ideas or
much hair !!!!!


Oh...can edit my post...don't why I couldn't before !!

Vista can do everything XP can in networking. I don't think that
Vista is the problem.

You DON'T have to set up a connection. PPPoE and dial-up are
irrelevant. Open the Network Connections folder (Start Run
ncpa.cpl). What connections does it show? There should be a Local
Area Connection that uses the computer's Ethernet adapter.

Turn the cable modem off, wait a few seconds, and turn it back on.
Does that help?

Does your computer get an IP address from the cable modem? If so,
what is it? Can you ping a web site by IP address? can you ping a
web site by name? Can you access a web site in Internet Explorer? If
not, what exactly happens when you try it?

Please provide as much detailed information as possible to help other
people understand and solve the problem. Just saying that Vista "will
steadfastly NOT allow me to connect" isn't helpful.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

*You said* "-Please provide as much detailed information as possible to
help other
people understand and solve the problem. Just saying that Vista "will
steadfastly NOT allow me to connect" isn't helpful.-"

You neglected to mention in the next sentence *I said* " -I have tried
repair the network, reasigning the IP and everything else I can think of
to no avail-."

I do have a bit of experience with networks and i have tried everything
i can think of but I cannot use the internet or indeed activate Vista.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

*You said* "-Turn the cable modem off, wait a few seconds, and turn it
back on.
Does that help-?"

*I said* "-Usually with a XP machine, ANY XP, from any where belonging
to anyone all you need to do is unplug the modem for 5 minutes then plug
the modem into the NIC, That is how I update machines I build for
people. I do it all the time....VISTA IS NOT THE SAME-"

So obviously I had already tried this many a time.

---------------------------------------------------------------

*You said* "-You DON'T have to set up a connection. PPPoE and dial-up
are
irrelevant. Open the Network Connections folder (Start Run
ncpa.cpl). What connections does it show? There should be a Local
Area Connection that uses the computer's Ethernet adapter-."

*I said *"-I just plug the modem into the NIC, the NIC indicators show
it working, Vista can see the network but hasn't a clue what it is-"

Clearly this shows the local area connection and the ethernet adapter
are working fine.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*I think it is a shame you don't read and understand a post BEFORE you
go replying....as it happens it is immaterial now because as of 5 mins
ago I'm not bothering with Vista any more can't activate it anyway. I
have spent too long on this, just getting silly replies from people. Not
even microsoft gave me a reasonable answer.
*


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zipdogso

"zipdogso" wrote in message
...

*You said* "-Please provide as much detailed information as possible to
help other
people understand and solve the problem. Just saying that Vista "will
steadfastly NOT allow me to connect" isn't helpful.-"

You neglected to mention in the next sentence *I said* " -I have tried
repair the network, reasigning the IP and everything else I can think of
to no avail-."

[snip]

*I think it is a shame you don't read and understand a post BEFORE you
go replying....as it happens it is immaterial now because as of 5 mins
ago I'm not bothering with Vista any more can't activate it anyway. I
have spent too long on this, just getting silly replies from people. Not
even microsoft gave me a reasonable answer.
*


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zipdogs
..
You don't seem to understand that answers in this newsgroup are
provided by volunteers, very few of which work for Microsoft.

;878330 Wrote:

You don't seem to understand that answers in this newsgroup are
provided by volunteers, very few of which work for Microsoft.

Actually I do understand...i was not referring to you when I mentioned
microsoft.

I am well aware of the microsoft programs... my brother is a certified
microsoft engineer. I even applied to go on it myself once.

I was trying to find out if there was anything I missed, I am now
wondering if there is a fault with my disc and it didn't load properly.
But for now I am not spending anymore time on it.


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zipdogso

Have you checked your firewall to make sure that it is allowing the
connection through?
I had no problems when I first got my Vista Home Premium machine I just
unplugged the Ethernet cable from the XP machine it was in and plugged it
into my Vista machine and away I went, this was connected to a Wireless
router, I made the XP wireless.

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"zipdogso" wrote in message
...

*You said* "-Please provide as much detailed information as possible to
help other
people understand and solve the problem. Just saying that Vista "will
steadfastly NOT allow me to connect" isn't helpful.-"

You neglected to mention in the next sentence *I said* " -I have tried
repair the network, reasigning the IP and everything else I can think of
to no avail-."

I do have a bit of experience with networks and i have tried everything
i can think of but I cannot use the internet or indeed activate Vista.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

*You said* "-Turn the cable modem off, wait a few seconds, and turn it
back on.
Does that help-?"

*I said* "-Usually with a XP machine, ANY XP, from any where belonging
to anyone all you need to do is unplug the modem for 5 minutes then plug
the modem into the NIC, That is how I update machines I build for
people. I do it all the time....VISTA IS NOT THE SAME-"

So obviously I had already tried this many a time.

---------------------------------------------------------------

*You said* "-You DON'T have to set up a connection. PPPoE and dial-up
are
irrelevant. Open the Network Connections folder (Start Run
ncpa.cpl). What connections does it show? There should be a Local
Area Connection that uses the computer's Ethernet adapter-."

*I said *"-I just plug the modem into the NIC, the NIC indicators show
it working, Vista can see the network but hasn't a clue what it is-"

Clearly this shows the local area connection and the ethernet adapter
are working fine.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*I think it is a shame you don't read and understand a post BEFORE you
go replying....as it happens it is immaterial now because as of 5 mins
ago I'm not bothering with Vista any more can't activate it anyway. I
have spent too long on this, just getting silly replies from people. Not
even microsoft gave me a reasonable answer.
*


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zipdogso