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This is a bit of a showstopper



 
 
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Old November 20th 08, 09:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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The link talks about Shadow Copies, not Restore Points.

Nice one, DrTeeth.


But the Vista Restore Point functionality uses Shadow Copy, doesn't it?
Unlike XP and earlier.

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Old November 20th 08, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:27:08 -0000, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Steve Thackery" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

But the Vista Restore Point functionality uses Shadow Copy, doesn't it?


Exactly, cannot separate the two.
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Old November 20th 08, 09:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Steve

His (DrTeeth) post on that KB has nothing at all to do with Vista. Read the KB and what it applies to as far as which OS

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"Steve Thackery" wrote in message ...
The link talks about Shadow Copies, not Restore Points.

Nice one, DrTeeth.


But the Vista Restore Point functionality uses Shadow Copy, doesn't it?
Unlike XP and earlier.

SteveT

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Old November 21st 08, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
DrTeeth
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:53:21 -0500, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Peter Foldes" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

His (DrTeeth) post on that KB has nothing at all to do with Vista. Read the KB and what it applies to as far as which OS


The issue IS present in Vista and has been confirmed by raxco, the
maker of PerfectDisk.
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Old November 21st 08, 05:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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DrTeeth

They are wrong as far as it affects Vista. You have a link so as we can read to confirm ??? If you do can you post it

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"DrTeeth" wrote in message news
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:53:21 -0500, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Peter Foldes" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

His (DrTeeth) post on that KB has nothing at all to do with Vista. Read the KB and what it applies to as far as which OS


The issue IS present in Vista and has been confirmed by raxco, the
maker of PerfectDisk.
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Cheers,

DrT

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** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
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Old November 21st 08, 07:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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The issue IS present in Vista and has been confirmed by raxco, the
maker of PerfectDisk.


Sounds like rubbish to me. Come on, let's see the link.

SteveT
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Old November 21st 08, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:27:06 -0500, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Peter Foldes" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

They are wrong as far as it affects Vista


Received from PerfectDisk tech support, "Microsoft has not updated the
article but I can confirm that we deal with this quite a lot and
changing the cluster size to 16K has resolved this each time. This
applies to any Windows OS running VSS, including Vista."

Case closed.
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Old November 21st 08, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
DrTeeth
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:18:31 -0000, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Steve Thackery" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

Sounds like rubbish to me.


See post to Peter; it ain't rubbish.
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Old November 21st 08, 07:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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"DrTeeth" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:18:31 -0000, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Steve Thackery" disturbed my reverie and
wrote:

Sounds like rubbish to me.


See post to Peter; it ain't rubbish.


They will next say it's malware.
Then a defective HD.
Then a reinstall.

All users should prepare for the reinstall.

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DrT

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Old November 21st 08, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Richie Hardwick[_2_]
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From Diskeeper (inside the running program):

"It is important to be aware that when VSS is enabled on a volume
with a cluster size smaller than 16 KB, VSS will see file
movement done by the defragmentation process as "changed data"
and take a point-in-time snapshot, even though only the location
of the data has changed. Unnecessary snapshots will cause the
VSS storage area to increases in size, possibly resulting in
earlier VSS snapshots being purged.

Diskeeper provides special defragmentation methods to allow you
to defragment these VSS enabled volumes, yet minimize the
possibility that older VSS snapshots will be purged.

When the VSS defragmentation option is enabled, Diskeeper uses
proprietary defragmentation engines to help reduce the chance of
the defragmentation operation causing new VSS snapshots from
being created, thus potentially preventing older snapshots from
being purged. In order to do this, the VSS defragmentation
engines use more conservative file movement algorithms, which
can result in slightly less thorough defragmentation of the volume"

Richie Hardwick
 




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