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My hardware setup is:
4 computers on ahome network, 2 running Windows 2000 Pro 1 running XP Pro. Sp2 1 struggling with Vista RC1 x64 1 Linksys WRT54GS V1 router with v. 4.71 firmware installed The Vista computer is using an AMD Athlon 64 dual core 4600 (2.4 Mhz) processor with 2 GB RAM on an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard. One of the Win 2k units is wireless as is the XP Pro. laptop, the others are hard wired. I first installed Vista Beta 2 and with a little twiddling I was able to see the other computers on the LAN and I was able to get onto the Internet. Then I installed RC1. I had to install it on a second drive because I didn't allocate enough space to the volume that contains Beta 2. I started out using the same Marvell Yukon network adapter that I had used for Beta 2 and I was able to see local LAN computers but could not browse a web page (I could ping them but that's all). I finally pulled the cable on the Marvell Yukon adapter (embedded on motherboard)and connected it to the Nvidia nForce adapter (also embedded in my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard). That's where I am now. From the Vista machine I can see the Internet without problem but I don's see any of the other computers on the network but....they can see the Vista machine and trade shared files with it. I can still boot from Beta 2 and see the local network computers but no Internet. I have checked and quadruple checked workgroup names, permissions, sharing, discovery and every other thing ever mentioned as a potential problem but I haven't had any success. I have tried everything I can with the router including completely disabling the firewall and that didn't help either. I know I am not alone in my problems but I would surely like some kind of help or some reassurance that this problem is not going to recur in the retail product. I will surely buy Vista when it hits the shelves but only if I have some kind of assurance that these networking problems have been resolved. For the others I see who are having this same kind of problem (nearly identical) I offer my sympathy. I KNOW it is beta software but I find it hard to believe this thing has gone to manufacturing with this problem unresolved. Cec Britto I first installed Beta 2 and I was able to see other computers on my 4 unit network (two Windows 2000 Pro and one XP Pro); I could also see and access the web. I installed RC1 on a second drive because I didn't have enough room on the original drive that holds Beta 2. Then, using the same Marvell Yukon 88E801/8001/8010 network adapter built into my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard, I was never able to get onto the Internet so I moved the connection over to another adapter on the motherboard (Nvidia nForce network adapter) |
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The first step in locally enabling the network map is to run the Group
Policy Object Editor (gpedit.msc) as an administrator on the local machine. With User Account Control (UAC) enabled, just right-click “Command Prompt” (Start Menu-All Programs-Accessories) and select “Run as administrator” to open an elevated command prompt. From the elevated command prompt, run the command “gpedit.msc” (no quotes). This will start the group policy editor for the local machine. Inside of the Group Policy Object Editor, navigate the tree to Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative Templates | Network | Link-Layer Topology Discovery. Once you are in the Link-Layer Topology Discovery section of the editor, simply Right-click and open properties for “Turn on Mapper I/O (LLTDIO) driver” and enable the “Allow operation while in domain” option. If you would also like to use the network map on a public network, you can enable the “Allow operation while in public network” option. The “Turn on Responder (RSPNDR) driver” option sits just below the LLTDIO option in the UI. The LLTD Responder driver allows PCs and network devices, like the Xbox 360, to present device details to the network such as the device’s manufacturer, model #, configuration URL, etc. -- David Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "C. Britton" wrote in message news ![]() My hardware setup is: 4 computers on ahome network, 2 running Windows 2000 Pro 1 running XP Pro. Sp2 1 struggling with Vista RC1 x64 1 Linksys WRT54GS V1 router with v. 4.71 firmware installed The Vista computer is using an AMD Athlon 64 dual core 4600 (2.4 Mhz) processor with 2 GB RAM on an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard. One of the Win 2k units is wireless as is the XP Pro. laptop, the others are hard wired. I first installed Vista Beta 2 and with a little twiddling I was able to see the other computers on the LAN and I was able to get onto the Internet. Then I installed RC1. I had to install it on a second drive because I didn't allocate enough space to the volume that contains Beta 2. I started out using the same Marvell Yukon network adapter that I had used for Beta 2 and I was able to see local LAN computers but could not browse a web page (I could ping them but that's all). I finally pulled the cable on the Marvell Yukon adapter (embedded on motherboard)and connected it to the Nvidia nForce adapter (also embedded in my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard). That's where I am now. From the Vista machine I can see the Internet without problem but I don's see any of the other computers on the network but....they can see the Vista machine and trade shared files with it. I can still boot from Beta 2 and see the local network computers but no Internet. I have checked and quadruple checked workgroup names, permissions, sharing, discovery and every other thing ever mentioned as a potential problem but I haven't had any success. I have tried everything I can with the router including completely disabling the firewall and that didn't help either. I know I am not alone in my problems but I would surely like some kind of help or some reassurance that this problem is not going to recur in the retail product. I will surely buy Vista when it hits the shelves but only if I have some kind of assurance that these networking problems have been resolved. For the others I see who are having this same kind of problem (nearly identical) I offer my sympathy. I KNOW it is beta software but I find it hard to believe this thing has gone to manufacturing with this problem unresolved. Cec Britto I first installed Beta 2 and I was able to see other computers on my 4 unit network (two Windows 2000 Pro and one XP Pro); I could also see and access the web. I installed RC1 on a second drive because I didn't have enough room on the original drive that holds Beta 2. Then, using the same Marvell Yukon 88E801/8001/8010 network adapter built into my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard, I was never able to get onto the Internet so I moved the connection over to another adapter on the motherboard (Nvidia nForce network adapter) |
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Thanks so much for the answer David. Unfortunately after using the Group
Policy editor as you instructed I still have the problem. Even though I am not on a domain I did enable a domain connection and a public connection to cover all bases. When I still didn't see the other computers I shut down, powered down the router and the broadband modem to go through a full system reset. Still no success. Any other suggestions will be appreciated and tried. Thanks again for the assistance. I was unaware of that particular policy so I learned something from the exercise in any case. "David Hettel" wrote: The first step in locally enabling the network map is to run the Group Policy Object Editor (gpedit.msc) as an administrator on the local machine. With User Account Control (UAC) enabled, just right-click “Command Prompt” (Start Menu-All Programs-Accessories) and select “Run as administrator” to open an elevated command prompt. From the elevated command prompt, run the command “gpedit.msc” (no quotes). This will start the group policy editor for the local machine. Inside of the Group Policy Object Editor, navigate the tree to Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative Templates | Network | Link-Layer Topology Discovery. Once you are in the Link-Layer Topology Discovery section of the editor, simply Right-click and open properties for “Turn on Mapper I/O (LLTDIO) driver” and enable the “Allow operation while in domain” option. If you would also like to use the network map on a public network, you can enable the “Allow operation while in public network” option. The “Turn on Responder (RSPNDR) driver” option sits just below the LLTDIO option in the UI. The LLTD Responder driver allows PCs and network devices, like the Xbox 360, to present device details to the network such as the device’s manufacturer, model #, configuration URL, etc. -- David Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "C. Britton" wrote in message news ![]() My hardware setup is: 4 computers on ahome network, 2 running Windows 2000 Pro 1 running XP Pro. Sp2 1 struggling with Vista RC1 x64 1 Linksys WRT54GS V1 router with v. 4.71 firmware installed The Vista computer is using an AMD Athlon 64 dual core 4600 (2.4 Mhz) processor with 2 GB RAM on an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard. One of the Win 2k units is wireless as is the XP Pro. laptop, the others are hard wired. I first installed Vista Beta 2 and with a little twiddling I was able to see the other computers on the LAN and I was able to get onto the Internet. Then I installed RC1. I had to install it on a second drive because I didn't allocate enough space to the volume that contains Beta 2. I started out using the same Marvell Yukon network adapter that I had used for Beta 2 and I was able to see local LAN computers but could not browse a web page (I could ping them but that's all). I finally pulled the cable on the Marvell Yukon adapter (embedded on motherboard)and connected it to the Nvidia nForce adapter (also embedded in my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard). That's where I am now. From the Vista machine I can see the Internet without problem but I don's see any of the other computers on the network but....they can see the Vista machine and trade shared files with it. I can still boot from Beta 2 and see the local network computers but no Internet. I have checked and quadruple checked workgroup names, permissions, sharing, discovery and every other thing ever mentioned as a potential problem but I haven't had any success. I have tried everything I can with the router including completely disabling the firewall and that didn't help either. I know I am not alone in my problems but I would surely like some kind of help or some reassurance that this problem is not going to recur in the retail product. I will surely buy Vista when it hits the shelves but only if I have some kind of assurance that these networking problems have been resolved. For the others I see who are having this same kind of problem (nearly identical) I offer my sympathy. I KNOW it is beta software but I find it hard to believe this thing has gone to manufacturing with this problem unresolved. Cec Britto I first installed Beta 2 and I was able to see other computers on my 4 unit network (two Windows 2000 Pro and one XP Pro); I could also see and access the web. I installed RC1 on a second drive because I didn't have enough room on the original drive that holds Beta 2. Then, using the same Marvell Yukon 88E801/8001/8010 network adapter built into my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard, I was never able to get onto the Internet so I moved the connection over to another adapter on the motherboard (Nvidia nForce network adapter) |