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Who's using my network?



 
 
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Old November 29th 08, 05:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill W
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Default Who's using my network?

Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if someone
has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have actually logged
into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking for my daughter who has a
Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP desktop computer and a
wireless Vista laptop. Even though it is a secured router, she does not
know if her husband may have given the encryption key/password to neighbors
who are now using their service. Her husband wants to be the good ole boy
and would offer access to their service without any regard for the
consequences. She doesn't even care to identify who might be using the
service, she just wants to know if they are. Thanks for your help.

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Old November 29th 08, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
pooch
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Default Who's using my network?


Hi Bill,

If you watch the down load light on the router while your computer is
switched off you will soon see if someone else is using your connection.



Pooch


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Old November 29th 08, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Who's using my network?

"Bill W" wrote in message
...
Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking for
my daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP
desktop computer and a wireless Vista laptop. Even though it is a
secured router, she does not know if her husband may have given the
encryption key/password to neighbors who are now using their service.
Her husband wants to be the good ole boy and would offer access to
their service without any regard for the consequences. She doesn't
even care to identify who might be using the service, she just wants
to know if they are. Thanks for your help.


AirSnare is an option...

http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/

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Old November 29th 08, 09:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Who's using my network?

"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote in message
...
"Bill W" wrote in message
...
Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking
for my daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house
wired XP desktop computer and a wireless Vista laptop. Even though
it is a secured router, she does not know if her husband may have
given the encryption key/password to neighbors who are now using
their service. Her husband wants to be the good ole boy and would
offer access to their service without any regard for the
consequences. She doesn't even care to identify who might be using
the service, she just wants to know if they are. Thanks for your
help.


AirSnare is an option...

http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/

--

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I forgot to add that you can run AirSnare on the wired desktop. Its
based on trusted MAC addresses. FWIW here is a snap shot of AirSnare
running on my network a few years ago.

http://www.dslreports.com/speak/slid...NjA3 OQ%3D%3D

Note that the desktop PC Ashtabula was no longer on my network due to an
untimely death when the AirSnare snapshot was taken.

In the screen shot my old Buffalo WBR-G54 Broadband Router shows up
twice, once for its wired LAN NIC (added manually to the safe list) and
once for its wireless LAN NIC. My wife's desktop (wired at the time) was
added manually, ie. Norman. My laptop and iPAQ PocketPC, both wireless
also show up. You need to identify every device's MAC address on your
network including your wireless/wired router.

Additionally some folks also use Look @ LAN...

http://www.lookatlan.com/

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Old November 29th 08, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Michael Walraven[_3_]
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Default Who's using my network?

On my WGT624 I can determine if a computer IS attached. Under Maintenance,
Attached devices is list of wired and wireless devices that are currently
attached. (I don't think there is any way on this router to determine what
has been attached in the past).

Under Advanced, Wireless settings, Setup Access list, the user can restrict
wireless access to specific devices by MAC (media access code, a unique
number for each wireless card/device). Any wireless device not on this list
will not be accepted by the modem.

Michael




"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote in message
...
"Bill W" wrote in message
...
Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking for my
daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP
desktop computer and a wireless Vista laptop. Even though it is a
secured router, she does not know if her husband may have given the
encryption key/password to neighbors who are now using their service. Her
husband wants to be the good ole boy and would offer access to their
service without any regard for the consequences. She doesn't even care
to identify who might be using the service, she just wants to know if
they are. Thanks for your help.


AirSnare is an option...

http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows - Desktop User Experience)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

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Old November 29th 08, 09:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
pooch
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Default Who's using my network?


Michael Walraven;898230 Wrote:
On my WGT624 I can determine if a computer IS attached. Under
Maintenance,
Attached devices is list of wired and wireless devices that are
currently
attached. (I don't think there is any way on this router to determine
what
has been attached in the past).

Under Advanced, Wireless settings, Setup Access list, the user can
restrict
wireless access to specific devices by MAC (media access code, a unique
number for each wireless card/device). Any wireless device not on this
list
will not be accepted by the modem.

Michael




"Sooner Al [MVP]" SoonerAl@xxxxxx wrote in message
news:6050FE07-7FC0-4EBA-8166-A613F4387008@xxxxxx
"Bill W" xxx@xxxxxx wrote in message
news:%23nQbeClUJHA.2644@xxxxxx
Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking
for my
daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP
desktop computer and a wireless Vista laptop. Even though it is a
secured router, she does not know if her husband may have given the
encryption key/password to neighbors who are now using their
service. Her
husband wants to be the good ole boy and would offer access to their
service without any regard for the consequences. She doesn't even
care
to identify who might be using the service, she just wants to know
if
they are. Thanks for your help.
AirSnare is an option...

'http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/'

(http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejay.deboer/airsnare/)

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Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows - Desktop User Experience)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
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(http://mvp.support.microsoft.com)
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no
rights...
How to ask a question
'How to ask a question' (http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375)


Or you could just change the encryption key problem solved!!


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Old November 30th 08, 01:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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Default Who's using my network?

Hi
What you are asking for is a useless exercise.
If your network is Not secured and some one logs On there is Nothing you can
do about it. In many cases it could be a neighbor that is Not even aware
that his Wireless logged to you. Otherwise if it involves some illegal
activity and you need to call the police.
As long as you keep your Network Open without security it would keep going
On few times a day.
Secure you Wireless with WPA or WPA2 and No one would connect.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)


"Bill W" wrote in message
...
Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? I'm asking for my
daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP desktop
computer and a wireless Vista laptop. Even though it is a secured router,
she does not know if her husband may have given the encryption
key/password to neighbors who are now using their service. Her husband
wants to be the good ole boy and would offer access to their service
without any regard for the consequences. She doesn't even care to
identify who might be using the service, she just wants to know if they
are. Thanks for your help.


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Old November 30th 08, 04:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
daleeh
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Default Who's using my network?

Jack,

The original poster stated that the router is secured but that the key
may have been given out to neighbors by an over-accomodating husband.
It might help if posters read the original posts and fully understand
them (or at least try) before posting a potentially insulting comment.
The request is for some way to determine if anyone is in fact
piggybacking on the connection--either with the key or by hacking in.

Some routers have logging capabilities--I'm not sure if this one does,
but if so, that would be a possible route.

Also, as stated by someone previously, using MAC access restrictions
is a good way to lock things down!

Dale

On Nov 29, 7:48*pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
wrote:
Hi
What you are asking for is a useless exercise.
If your network is Not secured and some one logs On there is Nothing you can
do about it. In many cases it could be a neighbor that is Not even aware
that his Wireless logged to you. Otherwise if it involves some illegal
activity and you need to call the police.
As long as you keep your Network Open without security it would keep going
On few times a day.
Secure you Wireless with WPA or WPA2 and No one would connect.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

"Bill W" wrote in message

...



Is there a way (via log files on PC or router, etc.) to determine if
someone has attempted to login to a wireless network or if they have
actually logged into and are using a wireless network? *I'm asking for my
daughter who has a Netgear WGT624 router with an in-house wired XP desktop
computer and a wireless Vista laptop. *Even though it is a secured router,
she does not know if her husband may have given the encryption
key/password to neighbors who are now using their service. *Her husband
wants to be the good ole boy and would offer access to their service
without any regard for the consequences. *She doesn't even care to
identify who might be using the service, she just wants to know if they
are. *Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -


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Old November 30th 08, 10:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Who's using my network?

"pooch" wrote in message
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Or you could just change the encryption key problem solved!!


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Absolutely a solution, but the real problem appears to be a domestic
issue...:-)

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Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375





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Old November 30th 08, 10:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
pooch
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Default Who's using my network?


'Sooner Al [MVP Wrote:
;898535']"pooch" wrote in message
...


Or you could just change the encryption key problem solved!!


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pooch Absolutely a solution, but the real problem appears to be a domestic

issue...:-)



Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows - Desktop User Experience)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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Yep you got it :sarc::sarc:


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