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Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??



 
 
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Old December 17th 08, 02:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
zach
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??

I'm getting really frustrated trying to access a Vista share from XP. Now,
before you jump the gun with one of the standard suggestions, please read:

1) I CAN access a share on the XP Pro share from the Vista Home Premium machine.
2) I CAN access a Public share on Vista with no problem.
3) I CAN access a share on Vista that has Everyone permissions.
4) I CANNOT access an administrative share on the Vista machine, neither C$ nor
a new one that I create (again, with NO other permissions except for
administrators). I can connect to the Vista share from XP but get an "access is
denied" when I go to the mapped drive
5) Both machines are in the same workgroup. (But I have had the same problem in
a domain environment.) Both machines have identical username/passwords for the
administrator logon. Pass-through authentication just ain't working. Nor does it
work if I explicitly supply the name/password (e.g., net use *
\\vistamachine\share /user:vistamachine\adminname adminpassword)
6) I have tried turning off firewall and UAC, to no avail.

I've read suggestion after suggestion on the net, and have found nothing that
helps. There sure seems to be a lot of folks that are having problems but most
of the "solutions" rely on #3 above (set permissions to everyone). I want a
SECURE share.

Is this just plain broken or is there something else I am missing?

Thanks!
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Old December 17th 08, 03:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)[_1271_]
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??

This is by design. You may read these search results.

a.. Vista: Can't access administrative ...
2 posts - Last post: Sep 23, 2007
If for some reasons, you must access the administrative share from
other computers, you may enable administrator account in the Vista and ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=412


a.. Info: Vista Administrative Shares
a.. By default, Vista administrative shares e.g. C$, D$) are not shared by
default for security reasons. You should create your own shares to share
your drives ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=277


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"zach" wrote in message
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I'm getting really frustrated trying to access a Vista share from XP. Now,
before you jump the gun with one of the standard suggestions, please read:

1) I CAN access a share on the XP Pro share from the Vista Home Premium
machine.
2) I CAN access a Public share on Vista with no problem.
3) I CAN access a share on Vista that has Everyone permissions.
4) I CANNOT access an administrative share on the Vista machine, neither
C$ nor
a new one that I create (again, with NO other permissions except for
administrators). I can connect to the Vista share from XP but get an
"access is
denied" when I go to the mapped drive
5) Both machines are in the same workgroup. (But I have had the same
problem in
a domain environment.) Both machines have identical username/passwords for
the
administrator logon. Pass-through authentication just ain't working. Nor
does it
work if I explicitly supply the name/password (e.g., net use *
\\vistamachine\share /user:vistamachine\adminname adminpassword)
6) I have tried turning off firewall and UAC, to no avail.

I've read suggestion after suggestion on the net, and have found nothing
that
helps. There sure seems to be a lot of folks that are having problems but
most
of the "solutions" rely on #3 above (set permissions to everyone). I want
a
SECURE share.

Is this just plain broken or is there something else I am missing?

Thanks!
--


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Old December 17th 08, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
zach
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??

So forget C$ - my post mentioned that I created a new share and that doesn't
work.

zach

"Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" wrote:

This is by design. You may read these search results.

a.. Vista: Can't access administrative ...
2 posts - Last post: Sep 23, 2007
If for some reasons, you must access the administrative share from
other computers, you may enable administrator account in the Vista and ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=412


a.. Info: Vista Administrative Shares
a.. By default, Vista administrative shares e.g. C$, D$) are not shared by
default for security reasons. You should create your own shares to share
your drives ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=277


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Old December 17th 08, 01:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??


"zach" wrote in message
...
"Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" wrote:

This is by design. You may read these search results.

a.. Vista: Can't access administrative ...
2 posts - Last post: Sep 23, 2007
If for some reasons, you must access the administrative share
from
other computers, you may enable administrator account in the Vista and
...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=412


a.. Info: Vista Administrative Shares
a.. By default, Vista administrative shares e.g. C$, D$) are not
shared by
default for security reasons. You should create your own shares to
share
your drives ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=277


So forget C$ - my post mentioned that I created a new share and that
doesn't
work.


It's probably the same basic problem - by default in Vista,
administrators are not allowed to exercise their administrator
privileges across the network. The recommended approach would be to set
permissions on the share to allow specific users or a new group (like
'Network Admins'). If you feel like you must disable this aspect of
Vista's security, you can enable remote administrator priviliges by
adding a DWORD Value LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy set to 1 in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\system\
registry key.

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universe gets that.


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Old December 17th 08, 07:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
zach
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??

Bingo! I can't add groups in Home Premium, but I explicitly added my Vista user
name to the share and pass-through authentication then worked.

Thank you, oh two-headed one!

z

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote:


"zach" wrote in message


So forget C$ - my post mentioned that I created a new share and that
doesn't
work.


It's probably the same basic problem - by default in Vista,
administrators are not allowed to exercise their administrator
privileges across the network. The recommended approach would be to set
permissions on the share to allow specific users or a new group (like
'Network Admins'). If you feel like you must disable this aspect of
Vista's security, you can enable remote administrator priviliges by
adding a DWORD Value LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy set to 1 in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Policies\system\
registry key.


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Old December 18th 08, 11:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default Aargh - accessing Vista share from XP??


"zach" wrote in message
...
Bingo! I can't add groups in Home Premium, but I explicitly added my
Vista user
name to the share and pass-through authentication then worked.

Thank you, oh two-headed one!


Glad I could help!

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Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something
big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.


 




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