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Old January 3rd 09, 11:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mazarbull
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Default My computer randomly freezes


OK guys, I am at a complete wall here. I have just built my new system.
This is the 4th system I have built and the first to ever give me
trouble. I had a heck of a time getting the SATA drivers for vista on
here without having a floppy drive. Once all that was done it started
to work great, for about a month. Now all of a sudden I am getting
random system freezes. I can't figure out what is wrong with this
thing. I have gone back and set the voltage for the RAM and CPU. At
first I thought maybe FireFox wasn't working well with my system,
because it was always freezing when I was on the Internet. Then it
started to freeze when I was just working with the internal files and
watching videos. Here is a list of hardware I am working with:


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.8 GHz
- Asus Striker II NSE LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI ATX Intel
Motherboard
- Dual XFX GX260NADBF GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB
448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
- SILVERSTONE OP1000-E 1000W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
- 2 sets of OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
- Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache
SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit



Any help you guys can give is GREATLY appreciated. I am almost
desperate enough to take it to a computer repair place in town I
really don't want to do that LOL


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Old January 3rd 09, 12:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Malke[_2_]
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Default My computer randomly freezes

Mazarbull wrote:


OK guys, I am at a complete wall here. I have just built my new system.
This is the 4th system I have built and the first to ever give me
trouble. I had a heck of a time getting the SATA drivers for vista on
here without having a floppy drive. Once all that was done it started
to work great, for about a month. Now all of a sudden I am getting
random system freezes. I can't figure out what is wrong with this
thing. I have gone back and set the voltage for the RAM and CPU. At
first I thought maybe FireFox wasn't working well with my system,
because it was always freezing when I was on the Internet. Then it
started to freeze when I was just working with the internal files and
watching videos. Here is a list of hardware I am working with:


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.8 GHz
- Asus Striker II NSE LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI ATX Intel
Motherboard
- Dual XFX GX260NADBF GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB
448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
- SILVERSTONE OP1000-E 1000W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
- 2 sets of OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
- Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache
SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit


Random lockups are almost always caused by failing hardware. It doesn't
matter that the hardware is new; in fact hardware will usually fail very
quickly or go for years.

I would start by setting everything back to defaults in the BIOS, especially
if you are overclocking. Then I would start testing the hardware, beginning
with the RAM.

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...ardware_Tshoot


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Old January 3rd 09, 01:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Richard Urban
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Default My computer randomly freezes

In my experience random lockups and freezes are mostly attributable to
defective/marginal RAM, disk corruption or a failing hard drive. A driver
problem would bring in a distance 4th place.

If the freezing is predictable it is likely a driver problem.

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"Mazarbull" wrote in message
...

OK guys, I am at a complete wall here. I have just built my new system.
This is the 4th system I have built and the first to ever give me
trouble. I had a heck of a time getting the SATA drivers for vista on
here without having a floppy drive. Once all that was done it started
to work great, for about a month. Now all of a sudden I am getting
random system freezes. I can't figure out what is wrong with this
thing. I have gone back and set the voltage for the RAM and CPU. At
first I thought maybe FireFox wasn't working well with my system,
because it was always freezing when I was on the Internet. Then it
started to freeze when I was just working with the internal files and
watching videos. Here is a list of hardware I am working with:


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.8 GHz
- Asus Striker II NSE LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI ATX Intel
Motherboard
- Dual XFX GX260NADBF GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB
448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
- SILVERSTONE OP1000-E 1000W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
- 2 sets of OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
- Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache
SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit



Any help you guys can give is GREATLY appreciated. I am almost
desperate enough to take it to a computer repair place in town I
really don't want to do that LOL


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Old January 3rd 09, 01:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
bruce2[_2_]
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Hi Mazarbull, I would first check to make sure those SATA connections
are making good contact buy disconnect and reconnect, shake, wiggle, and
tug on the connector at the HDD. Replace them with aftermarket ones if
possible. The cables came with the mobo are problematic. You know
those raptors are really fast; the high frequency vibration causes
intermittently breaking up of contact. Hope it is that simple. Post
back.

Cheers,
Bruce


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Old January 3rd 09, 01:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Clark[_4_]
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"Mazarbull" wrote in message
...

OK guys, I am at a complete wall here. I have just built my new system.
This is the 4th system I have built and the first to ever give me
trouble. I had a heck of a time getting the SATA drivers for vista on
here without having a floppy drive. Once all that was done it started
to work great, for about a month. Now all of a sudden I am getting
random system freezes. I can't figure out what is wrong with this
thing. I have gone back and set the voltage for the RAM and CPU. At
first I thought maybe FireFox wasn't working well with my system,
because it was always freezing when I was on the Internet. Then it
started to freeze when I was just working with the internal files and
watching videos. Here is a list of hardware I am working with:


- Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.8 GHz
- Asus Striker II NSE LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI ATX Intel
Motherboard
- Dual XFX GX260NADBF GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core 216 896MB
448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
- SILVERSTONE OP1000-E 1000W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V SLI Ready
CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
- 2 sets of OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
- Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache
SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit



Any help you guys can give is GREATLY appreciated. I am almost
desperate enough to take it to a computer repair place in town I
really don't want to do that LOL


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I guess my question would be why did you have problems with the SATA drive.
Most motherboards today handle those fine. On my Intel board, Vista loaded
fine with no other drivers. Maybe there is a problem with the hard drive
setup, which drivers did you install?

Clark

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Old January 3rd 09, 02:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default My computer randomly freezes

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:52:49 +0530, Mazarbull
wrote:


OK guys, I am at a complete wall here. I have just built my new system.
This is the 4th system I have built and the first to ever give me
trouble. I had a heck of a time getting the SATA drivers for vista on
here without having a floppy drive.



Considering that you built the computer, and that you could have
bought a floppy drive for under $10 US, why didn't you simply put one
in? True, you don't need them often these days, but they are so cheap
and easy to install that I think having one is a good idea, since it
avoids problems like the one you describe.


Once all that was done it started
to work great, for about a month. Now all of a sudden I am getting
random system freezes. I can't figure out what is wrong with this
thing. I have gone back and set the voltage for the RAM and CPU. At
first I thought maybe FireFox wasn't working well with my system,
because it was always freezing when I was on the Internet. Then it
started to freeze when I was just working with the internal files and
watching videos.



Almost certainly, it's a hardware problem, not a software one. The
most likely culprit is your RAM, but it could be other things too. I'd
start by testing your RAM.

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Old January 3rd 09, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Almost certainly, it's a hardware problem, not a software one. The
most likely culprit is your RAM, but it could be other things too. I'd
start by testing your RAM.


And at risk of repeating stuff that's been said already, reset your BIOS
settings (especially anything to do with overclocking) to their defaults.
Very important, that.

SteveT

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Old January 26th 09, 08:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Mazarbull[_2_]
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ok so I talked to a local repair person and he said it sounded like a
driver issue with vista... He told me to reinstall XP 32bit and try it
out for a while... granted I am only getting 2.75GB of RAM instead of
the full 8GB... but it has not crashed once... the crashes seemed to
happen more often when I was accessing the HDD... I could play Farcry2
for great lengths, but when I would save the game it would crash, and
freeze up... it only seems to be when I was accessing the HDD... but, it
hasn't done it since I installed XP... and I am not overclocking
anything... I figured with the hardware I have, I wouldn't have a need
to overclock... and every RAM test I ran came back perfectly... I doubt
it's faulty hardware, I put the RAM in another system and it registered
it and used it fine... the HDD I thought was bad so I bought a second
from Best Buy and it did the same thing... None of that did anything to
fix it... after I reinstalled XP and it ran fine, I then reinstalled
Vista and everything worked fine because I DID NOT install the Nvidia
nForce sata drivers... unfortunately I think the newest windows updates
include this driver... cause after about 2 weeks of Vista running
perfectly, the crashes started to happen again... the night after a
windows update had been installed... I personally think it's a
conflicting driver with the nVidia nForce 7 driver v15... but, that is
my guess


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Old January 26th 09, 10:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Pauli Taglia[_2_]
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Default My computer randomly freezes

Mazarbull wrote:


ok so I talked to a local repair person and he said it sounded like a
driver issue with vista... He told me to reinstall XP 32bit and try it
out for a while... granted I am only getting 2.75GB of RAM instead of
the full 8GB... but it has not crashed once... the crashes seemed to
happen more often when I was accessing the HDD... I could play Farcry2
for great lengths, but when I would save the game it would crash, and
freeze up... it only seems to be when I was accessing the HDD... but, it
hasn't done it since I installed XP... and I am not overclocking
anything... I figured with the hardware I have, I wouldn't have a need
to overclock... and every RAM test I ran came back perfectly... I doubt
it's faulty hardware, I put the RAM in another system and it registered
it and used it fine... the HDD I thought was bad so I bought a second
from Best Buy and it did the same thing... None of that did anything to
fix it... after I reinstalled XP and it ran fine, I then reinstalled
Vista and everything worked fine because I DID NOT install the Nvidia
nForce sata drivers... unfortunately I think the newest windows updates
include this driver... cause after about 2 weeks of Vista running
perfectly, the crashes started to happen again... the night after a
windows update had been installed... I personally think it's a
conflicting driver with the nVidia nForce 7 driver v15... but, that is
my guess


STOP installing drivers supplied by Windows update.

DUH.
 




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